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Digital Foundry: Hands-on with PS4's PlayStation 2 emulation
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Smokey_Run
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SOCOM 2 with a solid framerate, online support, and some very basic AA techniques.. sign me the fuck up.
TheAdmiester
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Seems like a PCSX2-esque thing with a 60FPS "hack"/tweak from the looks of it.
You'd probably get a better experience with 80% of your games on PCSX2 than this to be honest. It can play your disc games straight from the drive and can go way beyond the PS4's capabilities in terms of performance and res scaling (as well as mods for some games but let's leave that for now).
Watching someone play Racer on our PS4, it stands up surprisingly well in the first person view. It's all a bit blurry bit looking at the shots on Digital Foundry, that appears to b due to their upload rather than the game.
EDIT:
I mean watching somebody on Live From PlayStation playing it rather than watching somebody actually playing it on our PS4.
EDIT:
I mean watching somebody on Live From PlayStation playing it rather than watching somebody actually playing it on our PS4.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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eerik9000
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How else would they run those games on PS Now? PS Now is a device agnostic service, it's meant to be used on smartphones, TVs, potatos, etc. Not just on PS4.
Vital Tundra
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Does this mean we will start seeing PS Classics for PS+ again?
dragonyeuw
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Unless a mass number of people threw them out or extinguished by fire.... why wouldn't millions of people still own ps2 games?
Elitist1945
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I said damn.
My hope is that they offer Cross-Buy for anyone who purchased PS1/PS2 classics before.
biglittleps
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Nope, SNES star wars game is a port which is why its cross buy with PS Vita too. Other three PS2 games are emulated.
Not necessarily. PCSX2 doesn't support PS1 bc.
speedlolita
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Meanwhile I'll just enjoy my debug PlayStation 2 without region locking.
Yeah, but trophies!
I've thrown out all my PS2 games anyway, so this is good in my book. Better not start releasing shitty 50hz versions in PAL land though... Of course they're going to do that.
Andrefpvs
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I'm honestly confused by this sentence:
People are discussing digital and physical support for PS1 & PS2 games, so how do you claim this whole thing is only about ISOs? I'm not trying to be clever or anything, I'm legitimately confused by how you decided this is only about digital distribution.
The thing is, I don't think we have enough data to reach that conclusion.
There's the precedent of PS1 disc support for software emulation on PS3. The lack of disc support for PS2 software emulation could be attributed to how fragile that emulator was on PS3. Very few games ran perfectly, and allowing users to use their discs when it would expose them to glitches might have been part of why Sony blocked PS2 disc support for PS3s without hardware emulation.
PS Vita is not even worth bringing up, as that console does not support discs.
So yeah, we still don't know. If PS2 emulation on PS4 is very good, then that would be a completely new situation, and there could be a chance that Sony might allow discs to be used.
Hades Hotgun
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I was responding to your assertion that it makes no sense not to have them on PSNow, not necessarily agreeing that it will never ever happen. It certainly could eventually, but I think they would probably choose a modified route of delivery.
As it stands, PSNow does not support PS1 and PS2 games and doing so would be cost prohibitive on devices that can play with an emulator. While they may eventually include some games to target various devices incapable of emulation, it would be a very small market with a very poor ROI which is likely why you haven't seen it happen yet. With a working emulator, Sony could allow users who have PSNow subs to download and play PS1 and PS2 games in the same manner as they do for PS Plus users. That wouldn't match their rental style options, but it would work perfectly with a Netflix style sup that allows access to a pool of games. So either way, it is either something that they will choose a different route for or else it will be a very minor option if they ever get around to it.
They most likely will IMO.
Meanwhile, for those of us looking for an official solution, i think this is a good trade off. I only hope they keep the PS1 and PS2 sections well stocked, and use those for PS+ instead of just indies
FranXico
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Sony has, from start, been aiming to make the PS4 what the PS3 should have been. If the PS4 ends up offering superior PS1 and PS2 BC, that goal will finally have been achieved.
All PSone and a good amount of PS2 titles are on CD-Rom, though, which PS4 doesn't support on a hardware level.
biglittleps
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May be small fee to get the digital copy for those with discs because its providing additional benefits like trophies and updated graphics/fps. Sony is not desperate to allow XB1 like disc support, so they will surely want to make money out of this emulation and likely 3rd parties too.
FranXico
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Can you provide a source for that? I was pretty sure that the PS4 Blu-Ray reader also has a laser for CDs.
You mean something like psn passport?
What i said was, even back when Shu signaled that emulation for PS1 and PS2 would be easier than using a PSNOW solution back in 2013, it was going to be about PS1 and PS2 Classics and not disk based emulation.
There has never been anything signalling possible support for PS1/2 disk based emulation on PS4, it has always been about PS1 and PS2 classics.
So, it only makes sense for them to focus on that and not disk support. And so i don't see where people expecting disk based support are coming from, cause it obviously isnt happening
Yes it does. It just isn't currently configured to do anything with CD-ROM discs.
entremet
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biglittleps
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Kind of. Even if users try to use same disc in multiple PS4's still sony getting some money from every one which is way better method.
There was a stink about this around launch, if my memory serves me correctly. A handful here:
"Supported Disc Formats" from Sony's site.
Push Square snippet.
I think it boiled down to the Ps4's laser not having the ability to read CD-Roms, making playback and Ps1 a non-starter.
Help clear this up- do you have a source for that? Maybe we can put that to bed.
Big Green Anus
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Having PS2 emulation for this game would make the new WWE games irrelevant! However, knowing Sony, I don't see them doing disc-based emulation.
You are wrong ps2 emulation is huge
Afaik, PS4 is phisically capable of reading CD-Rom discs. The feature could be added on a update.
timmyp53
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To whom?
Having PS2 emulation for this game would make the new WWE games irrelevant! However, knowing Sony, I don't see them doing disc-based emulation.
Oh shit. Here comes the pain was amazing
wow!
you're prepared for disc rot lol.
But lag, tho
lag is no bueno but being able to use PS4 sticks is bueno
stan423321
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I think they asked Cerny about it, and he told everyone it's not about the laser. Remember, practically no one supports (S)VCDs anymore, so the only thing that it would be good for was old Audio CD - and at the moment Sony pushed Music Unlimited... hard.