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[Coolio McAwesome]

We essentially have a phantom boycott where literally no person in this topic actually pointed out to an actual existing boycott/critique/etc of this game.

Who, exactly, is implying that the game isn't being localized because of an existing boycott?

I have posted many links that clearly illustrate that the DOA series has been the subject of intense criticism in the past. (The past is often used to help make decisions about the future.) Given the history of criticism that DOA has faced, it's completely disingenuous to suggest that DOAX3 would somehow be immune to similar criticism.

The initial comments made from Team-Ninja's community manager suggested that their decision was informed by past criticism. They implied that events over the last "year or two" informed their decision.

It's entirely possible that they're overreacting and worrying too much about potential criticism, but there's nothing especially strange or unusual about a company using events from the past to determine how they should proceed in the future.

 

[foxtrot3d]

so would it be okay for dc to put out a swimsuit issue of all of their female heroes, many of which champion women's rights? including heroes like wonder woman, who has always embodied female empowerment, supergirl, whose show on cbs is trying to appeal to young girls and teach them that girls can be powerful too, and batgirl, whose recent revamp has had arcs where the bad guy(s) are sexist pigs?

Meh, fine by me as long as they aren't trying to claim it's secretly about "empowerment" but rather just some cheap softcore porn cash-in. I'm not particularly attached to fictional characters, especially comic book characters, and even more so when it's just some weird spin-off. I do care more about screwing up official fictional canon or rather simply telling a bad story. I don't understand what your problem is with erotic content.

 

[Mik317]

This is one way to lose your job.

 

[RM8]

Which series is more controversial, Mortal Kombat because of gore, or DOA because of fanservice? Now, unlike DOAX, Mortal Kombat sells, so I guess that's the difference. Lol, we even had a GAF thread about MKX being too gross / violent, we don't have such thing for DOAX3.

 

[Palculator]

so would it be okay for dc to put out a swimsuit issue of all of their female heroes, many of which champion women's rights? including heroes like wonder woman, who has always embodied female empowerment, supergirl, whose show on cbs is trying to appeal to young girls and teach them that girls can be powerful too, and batgirl, whose recent revamp has had arcs where the bad guy(s) are sexist pigs?

Swimsuits aren't against women's rights. Neither is being appealing to men, if that's what your next criticism was going to be.

 

[Doctor Ironic]

I hate that marketing is this easy nowadays.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Which series is more controversial, Mortal Kombat because of gore, or DOA because of fanservice? Now, unlike DOAX, Mortal Kombat sells, so I guess that's the difference. Lol, we even had a GAF thread about MKX being too gross / violent, we don't have such thing for DOAX3.

Mortal Kombat, because it was partially responsible for creating the ESRB.

Also people have actually heard of it.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

No clue on who the person in the image is, but I see it get used as a reaction image on imageboards and social networks a lot at least.

IIRC, it's some lady who said she got PTSD from Twitter trolls. I can't remember the details of it. But all I can say is that cats-eye glasses and rockabilly fashion are the worst things ever.

Anyway, I haven't bought a game from play-asia since Gundam Musou 3 and I probably won't go back because ami-ami is so much cheaper. Their twitter account ain't doing wonders for me.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Which series is more controversial, Mortal Kombat because of gore, or DOA because of fanservice? Now, unlike DOAX, Mortal Kombat sells, so I guess that's the difference. Lol, we even had a GAF thread about MKX being too gross / violent, we don't have such thing for DOAX3.

As you said, way more people know about MK so it has way more potential for people to be offended than DoA.

Though I kinda vaguely remember DoA Volleyball being a common joke for webcomics and the like to fall back on back in the mid 2000's, but after a decade of nearly nothing I can see how it's slunk back into obscurity.

I hate that marketing is this easy nowadays.

I vaguely remember some of the marketing for (I think) Rule of Rose playing up its more controversial elements, but it got to the point where it got the game banned in some regions for stuff that wasn't even there, but people were under the impression was since the advertisers thought was a good idea to pretend it was for controversy points. Sucked too since the LP I watched on it made it out to be a really cool, trippy horror game.

It's definitely possible to play the 'controversy' card too hard when you're marketing a game.

 

[Banana Aeon]

Which series is more controversial, Mortal Kombat because of gore, or DOA because of fanservice? Now, unlike DOAX, Mortal Kombat sells, so I guess that's the difference. Lol, we even had a GAF thread about MKX being too gross / violent, we don't have such thing for DOAX3.

Having a discussion on the niche is rather hard, because most don't give a shit.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Which series is more controversial, Mortal Kombat because of gore, or DOA because of fanservice? Now, unlike DOAX, Mortal Kombat sells, so I guess that's the difference. Lol, we even had a GAF thread about MKX being too gross / violent, we don't have such thing for DOAX3.

You know, honestly? I didn't get into MK until they pulled their heads out of their asses on female character designs. That's not the sole reason, but I wouldn't have enjoyed MKX as much if they hadn't finally fixed it (and Ed Boon admitted it was a problem).

 

[SolidSnakex]

The article itself ending up being a giant advertisement for the game itself. Because nothing drives sales than an overprotective person taking the shiny away, holding it above your head but still in plain view and saying, "no, you can't have this. You can't handle it".

That's exactly what happened

What was strange about the whole situation is that on their Twitter account they noted that they weren't going to review it and would no longer cover it at all. Then the sequel was announced and they covered that.

 

[CamHostage]

We essentially have a phantom boycott where literally no person in this topic actually pointed out to an actual existing boycott/critique/etc of this game.

Dude, can you fellows knock it off with this proof-by-no-proof theorem? Inability to not find on Google an organized protest against this game doesn't mean that KT's managers had no reason to look at this game as a hot potato. You've got buttfloss and lolis, and the two biggest bulletpoints of the marketing are "boob physics" and "wet skin"... it doesn't take external forces to tell you to think twice before reaching out for this one. They may eventually manage to rationalize it and plan strategically if they do sell the game (and though KT US/UK has a few messages out on DOAX3, I don't think the decision has been fully made yet,) but they're not stupid enough to think nobody will notice. They WANT people to notice, they just don't want the negative notice to outweigh the positive cash flow.

Anyway, the game was only announced in August and isn't being covered much by most of the major sites as it is since it has no domestic release planned (and, plus, again, journalists aren't fucking stupid and going, "If we promote this trailer, there will be zero negative reaction, right?") The game is mostly flying under the radar as it is, let's be thankful that it isn't the center of a shitstorm yet and pray that it remains cool for NeoGAF to have 20+ pages of DOAX3 oogling while still being welcoming to criticism of DOAX3's existence.

 

[GorillaJu]

Not even people on the far left pay attention to McIntosh.

He's like using Donald Tru--

I mean Ben Car--

Hrm.

Breitbart before he died? as a representative of the right.

I used to think "social justice warrior" was the perfect term for people like McIntosh who get up in arms about every tiny thing and obnoxiously, aggressively coddle underrepresented social groups. The kind who then jumps on everyone who isn't in lockstep with their creed, even those who agree with the overall message, as regressive and "part of the problem".

However I can appreciate that it's mainly been taken hostage by the gutter trash of the Internet as a catch all term for people with even the slightest semblance of sensitivity toward social issues and I haven't used the term unironically in forever. Like how I don't say "thug" anymore because racists started using it as a euphemism for a very offensive word, even though to me the meaning has never changed from its ethnic-neutral origins.

 

[Banana Aeon]

You know, honestly? I didn't get into MK until they pulled their heads out of their asses on female character designs. That's not the sole reason, but I wouldn't have enjoyed MKX as much if they hadn't finally fixed it (and Ed Boon admitted it was a problem).

I would say I wished they fixed the male character designs too, from being edgy garbage, but Human Scorpion and Sub-Zero look sexy as fuck.

Still don't like the way the game plays.

 

[RM8]

As you said, way more people know about MK so it has way more potential for people to be offended than DoA.

Though I kinda vaguely remember DoA Volleyball being a common joke for webcomics and the like to fall back on back in the mid 2000's, but after a decade of nearly nothing I can see how it's slunk back into obscurity.

DOAX has always being ridiculed, way before the "SJW feminist big bang". And I'm not talking about GAF - DOAX has been the butt of jokes since forever on sites like GameFAQs or IGN. But nowadays it's off limits to criticize the series? Yeah...

You know, honestly? I didn't get into MK until they pulled their heads out of their asses on female character designs. That's not the sole reason, but I wouldn't have enjoyed MKX as much if they hadn't finally fixed it (and Ed Boon admitted it was a problem).

It was a return to form. MK characters used to look like real people for obvious reasons, and I think MKX is the first 3D MK to get that quality back.

 

[Platy]

Dude, can you fellows knock it off with this proof-by-no-proof theorem? Inability to not find on Google an organized protest against this game doesn't mean that KT's managers had no reason to look at this game as a hot potato. You've got buttfloss and lolis, and the two biggest bulletpoints of the marketing are "boob physics" and "wet skin"... it doesn't take external forces to tell you to think twice before reaching out for this one.

The game was only announced in August and isn't being covered much by most of the major sites as it is since it has no domestic release planned (and, plus, again, journalists aren't fucking stupid and going, "If we promote this trailer, there will be zero negative reaction, right?") The game is flying under the radar as it is, let's be thankful that it isn't the center of a shitstorm yet and pray that it remains cool for NeoGAF to have 20+ pages of DOAX3 oogling while still being welcoming to criticism of DOAX3's existence.

Dead or Alive games are usualy more protested than Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball games because it has that "fuck, I want to enjoy the gameplay but this boob jiggling makes me want to destroy this disc" that is NOWHERE to be seen on Xtreme Beach Volleyball.
DoA is Transformers while DoAXBV is porn. You don't complain that porn has a dumb story because that is what you expect from porn.

I seen people compaling more about DoA5 extreme boob physics than DoA Xtreme Volleyball 2.

So my question is : Do you think Dead or Alive 6 will not be released in the west because of fear of the "sjw" outrage ?

 

[neogaffer1]

Meh, fine by me as long as they aren't trying to claim it's secretly about "empowerment" but rather just some cheap softcore porn cash-in. I'm not particularly attached to fictional characters, especially comic book characters, and even more so when it's just some weird spin-off. I do care more about screwing up official fictional canon or rather simply telling a bad story. I don't understand what your problem is with erotic content.

because you're taking symbols that have feminist connotations and throwing it hard in the other direction and making them shallow sex symbols made to appeal to men.

Swimsuits aren't against women's rights. Neither is being appealing to men, if that's what your next criticism was going to be.

seriously? you really don't think something like sports illustrated swimsuit edition isn't only about sex appeal and nothing else, discarding everything that those women, fictional or not, are and focusing on their worth as a sex object?

 

[Alucrid]

Dude, can you fellows knock it off with this proof-by-no-proof theorem? Inability to not find on Google an organized protest against this game doesn't mean that KT's managers had no reason to look at this game as a hot potato. You've got buttfloss and lolis, and the two biggest bulletpoints of the marketing are "boob physics" and "wet skin"... it doesn't take external forces to tell you to think twice before reaching out for this one. They may eventually manage to rationalize it and plan strategically if they do sell the game (and though KT US/UK has a few messages out on DOAX3, I don't think the decision has been fully made yet,) but they're not stupid enough to think nobody will notice. They WANT people to notice, they just don't want the negative notice to outweigh the positive cash flow.

Anyway, the game was only announced in August and isn't being covered much by most of the major sites as it is since it has no domestic release planned (and, plus, again, journalists aren't fucking stupid and going, "If we promote this trailer, there will be zero negative reaction, right?") The game is mostly flying under the radar as it is, let's be thankful that it isn't the center of a shitstorm yet and pray that it remains cool for NeoGAF to have 20+ pages of DOAX3 oogling while still being welcoming to criticism of DOAX3's existence.

i think you're giving doa x3 too much credit

 

[Coolio McAwesome]

Once again, your source on this is a guy who posts for them on Facebook, not a position privy to top level product decisions.

You have no idea what information he's privy to. I'll concede that he's not likely privy to" top level product decisions" but that's not to say that he didn't have any accurate information regarding this issue.

For what it's worth, I have three sources. The Team Ninja community manager, the person who runs Koei-Tecmo's official Twitter account (who acknowledged the former community manager's honesty), and a major retailer (Play-Asia).

If you are going to write my argument off because the three sources aren't good enough, then you should disregard the counter-arguments that have no sources at all.

 

[Raggie]

After Hatred, I have a feeling certain parties have discovered how to drive sales for shitty games. All you need to do is to suggest the SJWs have tried to stop people from buying it, and you have people taking out their wallets just to 'stick it to the SJWs' no matter how crap the game is. Basically, people who complain about how politics shouldn't affect gaming are supporting bad games for entirely political reasons.

Anyway, I'm done with Play-Asia. This idiotic SJW BS has been going on long enough.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

It was a return to form. MK characters used to look like real people for obvious reasons, and I think MKX is the first 3D MK to get that quality back.

I wouldn't mind a return to MK4's way of doing things.

After Hatred, I have a feeling certain parties have discovered how to drive sales for shitty games. All you need to do is to suggest the SJWs have tried to stop people from buying it, and you have people taking out their wallets just to 'stick it to the SJWs' no matter how crap the game is. Basically, people who complain about how politics shouldn't affect gaming are supporting bad games for entirely political reasons.

To be fair some places did try to make a big deal about how they weren't going to review Hatred, and even GAF made a point of banning threads about it. Makes it all the more obvious it was riding off controversy rather than gameplay when the final thing was far more tame violence-wise than most modern AAA releases are.

 

[CambriaRising]

I wouldn't mind a return to MK4's way of doing things.

I knew what this was before I clicked and I still happily clicked anyway.

 

[RM8]

I wouldn't mind a return to MK4's way of doing things.

I'm pretty sure you meant to post this one.

 

[Banana Aeon]

I knew what this was before I clicked and I still happily clicked anyway.

Same, lol

 

[Corpekata]

You have no idea what information he's privy to. I'll concede that he's not privy to" top level product decisions" but that's not to say that he didn't have any accurate information regarding this issue.

For what it's worth, I have three sources. The Team Ninja community manager, the person who runs Koei-Tecmo's official Twitter account (who acknowledged the former community manager's honesty), and a major retailer (Play-Asia).

If you are going to write my argument off because the three sources aren't good enough, then you should disregard the counter-arguments that have no sources at all.

You realize that Play Asia is just reacting based off the earlier news right? That's not a source. That's like claiming the earlier thread here about the topic is a source.

 

[Doctor Ironic]

Do we know how well Hatred wound up selling? I have to wonder how effective the "spite the SJWs!" strategy actually works.

 

[InfiniteNine]

Dead or Alive games are usualy more protested than Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball games because it has that "fuck, I want to enjoy the gameplay but this boob jiggling makes me want to destroy this disc" that is NOWHERE to be seen on Xtreme Beach Volleyball.
DoA is Transformers while DoAXBV is porn. You don't complain that porn has a dumb story because that is what you expect from porn.

I seen people compaling more about DoA5 extreme boob physics than DoA Xtreme Volleyball 2.

So my question is : Do you think Dead or Alive 6 will not be released in the west because of fear of the "sjw" outrage ?

That's a strange complaint since the games have had boob jiggle options on consoles since the Sega Saturn, so if it bothers you there are options to lessen or shut it off. I play DOA5 with the setting switched to Natural.

 

[dity]

Anyway, I'm done with Play-Asia. This idiotic SJW BS has been going on long enough.

I was done with them when they forgot my order last time and it took a lot of emails until they admitted they'd forgotten and decided to ship it.

 

[Forkball]

This is why the Sonic PR person should be in charge of every twitter account.

 

[Jintor]

seriously? you really don't think something like sports illustrated swimsuit edition isn't only about sex appeal and nothing else, discarding everything that those women, fictional or not, are and focusing on their worth as a sex object?

there are probably thesises out there arguing this kind of thing for reals. In short, it's a contested issue.

 

[Corpekata]

Do we know how well Hatred wound up selling? I have to wonder how effective the "spite the SJWs!" strategy actually works.

It seemed to do moderately well but they also went into bundles really fast (like, before they even had real discounts on stores) so it's hard to tell exactly.

 

[radios shipping overview]

DOAX has always being ridiculed, way before the "SJW feminist big bang". And I'm not talking about GAF - DOAX has been the butt of jokes since forever on sites like GameFAQs or IGN. But nowadays it's off limits to criticize the series? Yeah...

And then there were the threads on the game on this forum. They were full of derision, usually making fun of people for buying a non-game in order to masturbate to it.

Real talk, the prudish "no sexy stuff in our games, please" sentiment has tended to come more from relatively socially conservative gamers than from progressives.

 

[Palculator]

seriously? you really don't think something like sports illustrated swimsuit edition isn't only about sex appeal and nothing else, discarding everything that those women, fictional or not, are and focusing on their worth as a sex object?

I'm not very familiar with the details of Sports Illustrated -- Swimsuit Edition or not -- because it doesn't exist where I live, but I'd hazard a guess they aren't depriving their models of their rights.

 

[CamHostage]

I seen people compaling more about DoA5 extreme boob physics than DoA Xtreme Volleyball 2.

So my question is : Do you think Dead or Alive 6 will not be released in the west because of fear of the "sjw" outrage ?

I'm not sure there actually are more people complaining, but I see your point, and I would say you see more people complaining because it's a legitimate game with a solid sell base talked about in common gamer circles and forums. When a DOAX game comes around, however, not only is it not that popular a seller, it becomes the poster child (unfairly, maybe( for everything wrong with gaming and the dumb boys running it (again, unfairly.) It's the new Mortal Kombat or GTA, because MK and GTA are too mainstream to demonize. Nobody wants to see their game running on the nightly news as the example of, "Do you know what kind of games YOUR children are being subjected to?!?"

The flipside of that, which I was editing into my original post so sorry that I left out some context, is that you have much more in the plus column of your decision board if the negative response is vastly outweighed by the positive cash flow.

 

[Vazra]

After Hatred, I have a feeling certain parties have discovered how to drive sales for shitty games. All you need to do is to suggest the SJWs have tried to stop people from buying it, and you have people taking out their wallets just to 'stick it to the SJWs' no matter how crap the game is. Basically, people who complain about how politics shouldn't affect gaming are supporting bad games for entirely political reasons.

Anyway, I'm done with Play-Asia. This idiotic SJW BS has been going on long enough.

Hatred seems to have done 80k and I believe the game has been in 3 bundles or so. I don't think the game sales were helped or affected that much and perhaps most of those sales come from the bundles that the game was attached to.
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Do we know how well Hatred wound up selling? I have to wonder how effective the "spite the SJWs!" strategy actually works.

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[Opto]

You have no idea what information he's privy to. I'll concede that he's not likely privy to" top level product decisions" but that's not to say that he didn't have any accurate information regarding this issue.

For what it's worth, I have three sources. The Team Ninja community manager, the person who runs Koei-Tecmo's official Twitter account (who acknowledged the former community manager's honesty), and a major retailer (Play-Asia).

If you are going to write my argument off because the three sources aren't good enough, then you should disregard the counter-arguments that have no sources at all.

A community manager and two unknown people with access to company twitter accounts

 

[Gentleman Jack]

You have no idea what information he's privy to. I'll concede that he's not likely privy to" top level product decisions" but that's not to say that he didn't have any accurate information regarding this issue.

For what it's worth, I have three sources. The Team Ninja community manager, the person who runs Koei-Tecmo's official Twitter account (who acknowledged the former community manager's honesty), and a major retailer (Play-Asia).

If you are going to write my argument off because the three sources aren't good enough, then you should disregard the counter-arguments that have no sources at all.

Play-Asia's source is breitbart. Brietbart's source is that same community manager.

You have two sources, both of whom write twitter posts for a living.

 

[Raggie]

It seemed to do moderately well but they also went into bundles really fast (like, before they even had real discounts on stores) so it's hard to tell exactly.

Without the GG pushing their agenda, it wouldn't have sold much at all I think. It was a bad game from someone nobody cared about. The controversy angle was the only thing going for it.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

I'm pretty sure you meant to post this one.

It's the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[MDave]

This is all so bizzare.

People are taking this game seriously? There are far worse things in the world to protest about.

 

[Deleted member 126221]

You have no idea what information he's privy to. I'll concede that he's not likely privy to" top level product decisions" but that's not to say that he didn't have any accurate information regarding this issue.

For what it's worth, I have three sources. The Team Ninja community manager, the person who runs Koei-Tecmo's official Twitter account (who acknowledged the former community manager's honesty), and a major retailer (Play-Asia).

If you are going to write my argument off because the three sources aren't good enough, then you should disregard the counter-arguments that have no sources at all.

lol, that's not how it works. You have a social media guy posting something on Facebook, another social media guy acknowledging the first guy's post on Twitter, and a Playasia social media guy doing gator pandering. That's not "3 sources".

 

[Bear Force One]

Anyone who uses SJW is a flat out dope.

 

[Alucrid]

This is all so bizzare.

People are taking this game seriously? There are far worse things in the world to protest about.

like people not reading threads and then posting in them

 

[InfiniteNine]

This is all so bizzare.

People are taking this game seriously? There are far worse things in the world to protest about.

Well no one is really protesting the game at all if you read the thread it's more like P-A is losing itself some customers because of their aligning with a certain group of people.

Anyone who uses SJW is a flat out dope.

I kinda just put it in the basket of if someone uses this seriously they're probably not worth listening to.

Also you down there should actually read the thread before posting in it.
V

 

[Drilbit777]

Lol are they seriously complaining about DOA Extreme 3? Its just a damn game people.

 

[foxtrot3d]

because you're taking symbols that have feminist connotations and throwing it hard in the other direction and making them shallow sex symbols made to appeal to men.

seriously? you really don't think something like sports illustrated swimsuit edition isn't only about sex appeal and nothing else, discarding everything that those women, fictional or not, are and focusing on their worth as a sex object?

Eh, 1) I find it hard to believe that Wonder Woman or Supergirl are the holy symbols of feminism, they're comic book characters; 2) I don't see the problem with something being "sexy" and a positive symbol for people. We are humans, as humans we have sexual drives and desires. Accordingly, we tend to cast everything in sexual lenses for both men and women. There's a reason Pres. Obama made sure those photos of him shirtless, coming out of the ocean were everywhere. Individuals viewing Pres. Obama as a sexual object doesn't diminish his position as the leader of the free world.

Sex is not evil, "objectifying" an individual isn't either (we're all sex objects), the context of sex or sexualization does matter to me. I'll use the character of Quiet in MGSV as an example,a scantily-clad, big boob, bikini-wearing sniper that doesn't speak. Now, overall MGSV is an ass written game and honestly Quiet is the only "character" in the game in that she has an arc. However, she's still a shit written character that is made specifically to pander to male gamers in an otherwise "serious" game with a "serious" story. If you want to make some weird softcore MGS spin-off then go ahead and make a character like Quiet but the context in which that character is presented within that game MAKES NO DAMN SENSE and is insulting, in addition to the other troubling aspects surrounding her character.

Sex itself is not bad, however the context it is presented does matter.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Lol are they seriously complaining about DOA Extreme 3? Its just a damn game people.

No, which is the entire crux of the discussion: Literally no one was complaining about it, or really even acknowledging it.

 

[Terrell]

Swimsuits aren't against women's rights. Neither is being appealing to men, if that's what your next criticism was going to be.

I know where you're going with this and I would normally agree to an extent... but there are 2 points to be made here.

First, unless we're talking about a one-piece sports swimsuit, yes, women's swimwear is designed primarily for physical appeal and as such carries sexualization as part-and-parcel with that, which is difficult to impossible to separate from it. Saying there isn't something intrinsically sexual about them is hopefully not the argument you were trying to make, but it needed re-stating.

Second, and this is where the problem is, swimsuits being for "sexing up" isn't a terrible thing and neither is a woman wearing one for titilation... if we were talking about real live women. But these are characters who have no actual agency and do whatever the whim of the creator is.
And without personal agency or enough context to make the actions they are asked to do totally understandable and not counter to a character's typical motivations? It's straight-up turning the characters into objects. Which they ARE, by nature of being not real, but that doesn't make that sexual objectification immediately unworthy of consideration or, depending on your perspective, concern.

Basically, the simplest way to conceptualize the problem is to think of video game characters (or any non-living human representations) as comatose people on puppet strings. They have literally ZERO will, and if you were to have a comatose woman who is not known for sexy erotic playtime for no particular reason and then suddenly gets the skimpiest bikini thrown on her to be posed and shown as a sexual object for male consumption? You couldn't tell me that wouldn't be pretty damn gross. And that's essentially what the argument always is: You can't argue that it's not offensive when you can't ask the "person" who's being objectified. They are inherently sex objects at that point.

 

[Suzushiiro]

After Hatred, I have a feeling certain parties have discovered how to drive sales for shitty games. All you need to do is to suggest the SJWs have tried to stop people from buying it, and you have people taking out their wallets just to 'stick it to the SJWs' no matter how crap the game is. Basically, people who complain about how politics shouldn't affect gaming are supporting bad games for entirely political reasons.

Anyway, I'm done with Play-Asia. This idiotic SJW BS has been going on long enough.

Yeah, they're basically deliberately trying to invoke a sort of Streisand effect. Hell, KT didn't even have to actually have anyone declare that this game was terrible and shouldn't exist to pull it off, just say they figured it would happen. Which, to be fair, is probably a correct assumption, though it wouldn't have been bad enough to negatively impact it.

That said, it's not like there aren't other games that do the opposite and pander to the progressive side for sales. I didn't play it so feel free to correct me but wasn't the general consensus of AC Syndicate that they shoehorned in the female player character to boost sales after the Unity controversy?