Newtype-001
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PlayStation 4 sales (sold-through) hit 30.2 million worldwide
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Wow ars still touting their projections that by 2024 the xbox could pass the ps4.why double down when you are made the laughing stocks of the Internet the first time.
Coulomb_Barrier
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I wonder what bizarre angle they'll take when the Xbone stops slowing the widening of the gap between the two, evidenced clearly by November and December's sales.
IIRC, the trend has been pretty consistently 2:1 since launch. In fact it's surprising to me that it has maintained this gap for two years now. I guess it could be the way of things for the remainder of the gen.
LifeBrandRobot
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30 million consoles, yet no one bought Tearaway lol.
Crimson_Gold
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I bought it. I also bought it for the Vita.
LegendofLex
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The switch from ship to sell-through is happening literally at the same time as NPD has stopped tracking individual SKU sales in favor of charts that lump all platform sales for individual titles together.
In both of these cases, the shift makes it more difficult to detect what actually amounts to a declining trend in sales that's being masked by a higher concentration of/more front-loaded sales at one end of the market.
eerik9000
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That term is rarely used nowadays, especially with Sony, as they want to own the IP of games they publish.
Freeman
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Joke?
Its a pretty consistent ratio, has been like this since right after launch, MS strategy of releasing number sold to retailers (not even that anymore) might have confused you.
Ivan
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What?!
You get shipped figures each quarter from Sony's financial results.
This press release is just to tout some sell through numbers going into Black Friday.
LifeBrandRobot
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Bombed on there too LOL. I liked it and I have no idea why it refuses to sell.
That doesn't make it a first party title though.
I'm sure everyone just bought it digitally.
I just bought it the other day.
TheOfficeMut
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Yup. If on average 10 out of 5 people bought it digitally, then it sold gangbusters.
ninjablade
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i see sony eventually having the console market all to itself.
KurtSloane
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This is about console sales and not games, and they do provide shipped in their quarterly figures.
Well, if Sony actually shipped some copies to stores, maybe it would have sold a bit more.
Where I live, I couldn't find a single Tearaway disc: even in some big chains such as Mediamarkt there were Brother, Helldivers, Dynasty Warriors, J-Star Victory discs available, but Tearaway was nowhere to be found. ;_;
XxRampage07xX
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YouTube, Netflix, Blu-ray... Games don't exist on PS4.
I used to play Wii u music for my horse, Holy Wang, but he started talking and wearing clothes.
GHG
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Acquiescence
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Never gonna happen. If a company bows out of the console market then another will quickly take its place.
Not mentioning any names *cough*SEGA*cough* *cough*Dreamcast 2*cough*.
LegendofLex
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Sure, but you don't typically get milestone updates from Sony on ship numbers (just sell-through), nor do you get ship numbers by region (unless they're hidden somewhere that I'm not seeing). So we have a much more limited view into how PS4 is performing compared to PS2 (in specific markets), since the metrics we're getting aren't as detailed.
There's been a lot of change in reporting on all fronts (hardware and software sales), from all parties that report industry metrics (Sony, Microsoft, NPD, and even Nintendo), that has made it difficult to discern long-term trends. One can't help but think this might be deliberate, since the PR is always "we're doing unprecedentedly well" when a closer look at the numbers suggests there's a trend toward decline.
Note again that I'm not saying PS4 is any less impressive in the current market environment, just that so far we've only had apples to oranges comparisons to the PS2 generation, which (like the Wii/DS for Nintendo) is the real benchmark for a successful Sony (not PS3).
Mister Megative
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Feeling a lot more confident in my prediction of 1.2 million + for PS4 in November NPD.
entremet
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Impressive, although I'm not getting one until the SE RPGs start coming out.
The industry has changed so much, so I can't blame the PS4 for Japan's shift toward mobile, but I always sought for a successor to the PS2 in both Japanese support and dominance, but those days are over.
The industry has changed so much, so I can't blame the PS4 for Japan's shift toward mobile, but I always sought for a successor to the PS2 in both Japanese support and dominance, but those days are over.
gundamkyoukai
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What ?
Sold through numbers are much better than ship when it comes to telling how good a console doing and trends .
HomerSimpson-Man
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The PS2 had dropped to $199 by then didn't it? The PS4 is just only skirting the $299 by black Friday in comparison.
Mister Megative
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Bro? You do realize "sold through" means PS4's sold to consumers, right?
IAmRandom31
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Helldivers
Bloodborne
Tearaway Unfolded
Driveclub
Infamous
Galak-z
Resogun
Final Fantasy X HD
Disgaea 5
DQ Heroes
Such like that is a good starting point
As soon as the digital versions on sale, I'll be doing my bit immediately.
Would have been there on release if I hadn't already bought the Vita version though.
CadetMahoney
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what's the current ratio between PS4/Bone for the USA?
Crimson_Fate
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LegendofLex
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It's a nice way of showing consumer excitement for your product and tells you more about what people are actually buying than shipments. You're definitely right about that. It's not like I'm saying that it's not a much more "down to earth" way of reporting sales.
But when it's not a traditional metric (and when the reporting of traditional metrics has been watered down), there's no good way (for us laymen who don't have all the internal estimates) to use it to make comparisons (which are necessary for identifying long-term trends).
Acquiescence
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Needs more Until Dawn.
I feel like if Sony would subsidize localization(In exchange for exclusivity) of a number of Japanese developed games, they could completely revitalize that area of the industry. More sales and less risk.
These sales, in my opinion, confirm that PS4 will sell at least 100 million LTD. Sony have so much room on price and some killer games are coming next year. PSVR will have a solid user base and, providing it is priced appropriately, might dominate that space. And that space is where Microsoft are about 5 years behind so the PS5 will be in a super strong position too with native VR capabilities.
Xbox One we will never know.
Xbox One we will never know.
No games....??
Newtype-001
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gundamkyoukai
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I really have no idea what you are saying or trying to say .
Seeing sold through gives you a idea about long term trends cause you see the pace it selling at .
Plus you get ship numbers from Sony and estimates .
Are you really trying to say ship numbers are better than sold through ?
Mister Megative
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You're right. I can't play it because there aren't enough games.
3rdamention
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But, last November, they were "nearly" 10 million shipped. So do you think they shipped and sold nearly another 10 million in the past year?
15-16 million I believe is more likely than 20 million.
Maintenance
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Oh damn I completely forgot about Disagea 5. Buying that asap.
3rdamention
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As a 6th Grade School Teacher, you just made me choke on my coffee. I love it!! Well played
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