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[GregLombardi]

The faithfulness to the original game is actually really great.

Jessie, Biggs, and Wedge are updated but familiar.

Cloud still says "Not interested.".

Jessie still kicks a Shinra Grunt in the gut.

They still have to blow their way out of the rubble after the reactor is destroyed.

Cloud still jumps on a train after being surrounded by Shinra troops after separating from the group.

Barret and Cloud keep all their old limit breaks and might even get new ones.

Really liking what I see so far.

The Shinra HQ should be amazing.

I don't really care about turn based combat because that wasn't a unique feature of FFVII at all.

So, I take issue with the bolded. I think the FF7 Remake looks amazing but the satisfaction of pushing buttons and having reactions was actually a very MAJOR part of why FF7 gameplay was fun. Ordering commands and certain moves by certain characters felt, via the controller, very satisfying. So I take issue with your statement here.

There WAS a feel to FF7's gameplay and they need to be careful. Still, they seem to be very open minded as to how they are going to deal with that feel and I am very very pleased with what I see thus far.

 

[Jashobeam]

Clouds skinny arms are really bothering me, they look disproportioned with the rest of his body.

 

[Jaymageck]

Shocked they've actually got this far. Also shocked that it's pretty faithful so far (other than gameplay). Looks awesome.

 

[chozen]

So... Real time underwater battles?

 

[duckroll]

Advancements are not shifting the genre. X-2 is an advancement from standard ATB. This is not, it's a sidestep.

But X-2 "advanced" into Crisis Core, and then into Type-0, and then into XV. When even the people who designed the actual turn based battle systems decide to go realtime, what can you do?

Spoiler

Even Ito went realtime with FFXII!

 

[Juraash]

Uh... is it even FFVII if you throw out the combat for whatever the fuck action-rpg replacement?

People want VII precisely because it's not the new crap.

I don't even care about this now.

I want FFVII for the characters and the story. The battle system, while classic, is not a requirement for me personally.

Do people really only (or primarily) play VII for mechanics?

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

So in what way do they share similarities?

Remember that character from Naruto named Sasuke in which AC Cloud and every incarnation from then lifted it's personality? Is here, again.

At least from what the trailer seems to show at least.

 

[wild wild rice]

Maybe Square actually won't fuck this up. Looked pretty great!

 

[Kenzodielocke]

PJSalt.

I want this game how Nomura want it to be.

 

[Soulstar]

This actually looks interesting to me. It's odd considering I'm pretty lukewarm on FF7 in general.

Maybe I should replay FF7 see how I feel about it these days.

 

[Jarmel]

It looks like he has cellulite. Maybe that's another side-effect.

I don't know if that's just poor texture modelling or if they're deliberately going for the cellulite look. It's early enough that it could go either way. Would be interesting to see a main character have cellulite though.

 

[Hey_Blinkin]

This is obviously a costly project. I would prefer they stayed truer to the source material such as turn based combat, but if they have to appeal to a larger audience to justify the cost then I understand. If I feel they've gone too far in the end I can always go back and play the original.

 

[Trace]

I was hoping for full action, but I'll take what I can get.

 

[Macnair]

If you can do all that flashy fighting in Midgar, I cannot imagine what you can do on a full party at level 99.

 

[Famassu]

The FF series has always had awful combat. Some of the worst RPG combat out there. I don't know if I like the new direction it is going in, but let's not pretend it was interesting in the original. RPGs with great combat systems:

Grandia
Chrono Trigger
Shadow Hearts
Final Fantasy Tactics

That is all that comes to my mind.

FF combat isn't terrible, but it has always been made with a more mainstream audience in mind, so they aren't overly complex and are balanced so that even inexperienced gamers have at least a chance to finish the games without huge problems.

They are enjoyable for what they are & can offer some optional content that engages more experienced games better.

 

[Ceravic]

Sup.

Voice acting is garbage and combat looks like nomura copy pasted the combat from that other FF game that he couldn't get done.

 

[mieumieu]

Yup, I don't get it. I thought people liked FF7, yet all I'm seeing is people celebrating SE changing one of things that made FF7 great. Now I'm not so sure anymore that people actually liked FF7.

I understand bringing the game up to date with modern game mechanics but this just looks like they flipped the entire original battle system on its head and then threw it in the garbage. This is not FF7 at all to me.

After that trailer, I still want to play the game because I love the FF7 universe, but I'm more excited for FF15, and I know I will be disappointed by FF7R regardless of how low I set my expectations.

combat being turn based is not the thing that makes ff7 great. you can still have realtime combat and keep everything else combat related there like summons and materia and such. flipping out without more info sounds overreaction to me.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I wanted a remake that fixed what was actually inherently broken with FFVII (the graphics) and didn't replace the battle system with Nomura's brand of trash, but apparently that's too much to ask for?

Its too little to ask for. If you think FF7 is broken but can only point to 'graphics', then you obviously don't know what you wanted to start with.

Don't put your opinions over others. A lot of us knew it would be different, and that's perfectly fine.

 

[Green Mamba]

Seriously guys, there's the door. We expected it to be different.

This isn't a topic just for positive impressions. If you don't care for negative impressions, well, there is the door.

Don't put your opinions over others.

I would suggest you don't do the same either.

 

[Meccanical]

So, I take issue with the bolded. I think the FF7 Remake looks amazing but the satisfaction of pushing buttons and having reactions was actually a very MAJOR part of why FF7 gameplay was fun. Ordering commands and certain moves by certain characters felt, via the controller, very satisfying. So I take issue with your statement here.

There WAS a feel to FF7's gameplay and they need to be careful. Still, they seem to be very open minded as to how they are going to deal with that feel and I am very very pleased with what I see thus far.

I don't see your point when we can do the same thing here.

Also you could do the same thing in most RPGs.

 

[HeelPower]

All I'm waiting for is for Barret to shoot something in the environment and cause a huge explosion.

Lol even color scheme is the same.

I just can't wait...looks sssooo good.

Sucks that XV is sorta overshadowed right now.

 

[Look! The Pie!]

I'm almost crying here.
This is looking far, far more faithful than I expected it to be.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Barrett's English VA sounds the same as his AC/Dirge VA, just toned down- which is good... foo!

 

[Kaiterra]

Man, everything about that trailer BUT the combat had me pumped. Fuck this action based direction. I can't even get my RPG on when we're talking about a remake of an RPG that would undoubtedly sell big even if they didn't change the gameplay at all? (Which isn't what I wanted, necessarily, but not what this looks like.) Only if I'm gonna play low budget anime and indie games the rest of my life? Ugh... I'm all worked into a shoot now.

 

[Sblargh]

All right! Fuck me! I know nothing about menus and ATBs!

Goddamn NeoGAF!

 

[duckroll]

If you can do all that flashy fighting in Midgar, I cannot imagine what you can do on a full party at level 99.

It's possible that at this point in development, the people making the game can't imagine that either.

 

[Golnei]

So... Real time underwater battles?

Hopefully, it'll end up more like how Bayonetta 2 did it - as just a change of scenery with different physics - not something like what KH1 did. Assuming they're still in, of course; the submarine sections could feasibly be collapsed into a scripted sequence.

 

[Pappasman]

I don't really care about action vs turn-based, but I just want to control my whole party during battles.

 

[HMD]

Shocked they've actually got this far. Also shocked that it's pretty faithful so far (other than gameplay). Looks awesome.

They don't have to use shitty engines anymore, so that must help speed things up.

 

[Yoshichan]

I will take a fucking dating sim-style game as long as I can experience the perfection that is FFVII

 

[Darryl M R]

Are people assuming 2016 or 2017? I would think the lack of a release date would imply "not next year."

 

[Pristine_Condition]

Hitman coming up...

on the stream now.

 

[xaosslug]

That combat system, I'm out. Fuck that.

lmao, see u in da next thread, yo! XD

 

[RevolverRoden]

Thank god its not a shooter.

 

[Shredderi]

I can't believe how much more interesting and atmospheric this looks compared to FF15. Of course I'm very familiar with FF7 but the game just oozes atmosphere on current-gen. Makes FF15 just looks so visually bland. Time for square to show some actually interesting locales for that game so I can get hyped again.

 

[Meccanical]

Remember that character from Naruto named Sasuke in which AC Cloud and every incarnation from then lifted it's personality? Is here, again.

At least from what the trailer seems to show at least.

Cloud hasn't said anything that he didn't say in the original game sooo...

 

[CLBridges]

Looks so good, left a smile on my face. Can't wait to play.

 

[Amani]

Whoa. Action RPG, and resembles Kingdom Hearts to boot? Interesting.

 

[Ceravic]

Man, everything about that trailer BUT the combat had me pumped. Fuck this action based direction. I can't even get my RPG on when we're talking about a remake of an RPG that would undoubtedly sell big even if they didn't change the gameplay at all? (Which isn't what I wanted, necessarily, but not what this looks like.) Only if I'm gonna play low budget anime and indie games the rest of my life? Ugh... I'm all worked into a shoot now.

https://twitter.com/hulkhogan/status/125437560418865152

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

This is UE4 right?

It shows, since it looks as finished right now as XV.

 

[Trickster]

lmao, see u in da next thread, yo! XD

I won't bring it up in threads not related to the combat, just let me vent a bit in this one though

Honestly if it turns out great, then that's great. But I've not really enjoyed a FF game since FFX, in large part because of the shift in combat that has happened.

 

[Ruruja]

No no n o no nooooooooooooooooooooo

It's Takahiro Sakurai.

Ah okay, it sounded familiar and that was my first go-to VA of familiar voices.

 

[Ranger X]

People were expecting 20-year old turn based combat? It's a remake for a reason, and not using advancements in gameplay and technology would be missing the point entirely.

I think it looks fantastic so far.

Its perfectly normal to expect a similar battle (except presentation of course) This is a remake and not a reboot. Super Mario Allstars did not become something else, Resident Evil Remake didn't become an action game. A remake is to take same game, redo it with currently available hardware but you're not traditionally supposed to change the very nature or what made the old game what it was. That's basically the difference between a remake and a reboot.

Anyhow, if the new battle gives me as much control as the old one, ends up as much strategic as the old one and that the materia system is intact, its going to be great imo.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I don't really care about action vs turn-based, but I just want to control my whole party during battles.

Character switching is in. Its basically an evolution of turns anyway

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

SHAKING AND CRYING

 

[DeSolos]

I just can't wait...looks sssooo good.

Sucks that XV is sorta overshadowed right now.

It really won't be, both games will be released so far apart it won't matter.

 

[Coffee Dog]

combat being turn based is not the thing that makes ff7 great. you can still have realtime combat and keep everything else combat related there like summons and materia and such. flipping out without more info sounds overreaction to me.

Some people thought FF7 had fun gameplay and was a good game. I understand that many feel differently.

 

[Mahonay]

I can't believe how much more interesting and atmospheric this looks compared to FF15. Of course I'm very familiar with FF7 but the game just oozes atmosphere on current-gen. Makes FF15 just looks so visually bland. Time for square to show some actually interesting locales for that game so I can get hyped again.

For me personally Square hasn't produced anything that's visually interesting in a long time. It's no surprise that a FF7 remake looks cooler on a visual level than FFXV

 

[Skux]

But removing turn-based combat isn't an advancement....

"Modernised" is probably a better term then.

Turn-based combat just doesn't appeal to the today's gamers, at least not on the mainstream level that SE are aiming for with this remake. It's not just about serving the fans, but also introducing a new generation of people to FF7, people who grew up with real-time RPGs and action games.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Are people assuming 2016 or 2017? I would think the lack of a release date would imply "not next year."

I'm thinking 2018, with a playable demo for the 20th Anniversary in 2017.