FAST Racing NEO |OT| When Everyone's Fast, No One Will Be

Alistair Roo said:
Oh, ok then :P

And as soon as I'm typing this, my Wii U crashes in the voting room after almost half an hour of working flawlessly...

Sigh
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Shin'en can we pls have patch?

Also I should be able to play soon but I'll probably just do single player tonight. Wanna unlock everything, ya know? (AND GET ON DISCORD BITCH)
 
Doesn't seem like some of the tracks are balanced for the higher speeds

I've noticed on Supersonic that the Blade Runner city (Chakou? First cup 4th track) has platforms near the end where if you're going fast enough you just miss them. I didn't pick the higher speed to slow down, son
 
PreyingShark said:
Shin'en can we pls have patch?

Also I should be able to play soon but I'll probably just do single player tonight. Wanna unlock everything, ya know? (AND GET ON DISCORD BITCH)
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I haven't unlocked everything myself. I was just testing online, which is damn smooth if you ask me until that crash.. Meh

Also, send me a @Roo next time you want to talk to me, BITCH!
 
The graphics sadly don't do much for me but I like the smoothness and sense of speed.

It looks like the join friends feature requires everyone to jump on together at once? I can't just join a friend in progress which I'm sure will certainly limit how often I get to play with people on my friends list.
 
Only played for an hour so far but the one thing that strikes me is how responsive the controls are and how easy this is to learn. The switching mechanic is effortless to grasp and it looks absolutely phenomenal at full clap. Best £10.99 I've spent in a while based on early impressions.
 
I really don't like Boost being on R. I like to play with my index fingers resting on ZL and ZR in order to be able to lean either way at all times. Having to remove my finger from ZR to R is not that ideal. And no way am I using my middle fingers on the Z-triggers and index fingers on L and R.

I agree with everyone, a button mapping scheme really needs to be patched in here.
 
I find myself getting frustrated with the color switching mechanic. Mainly because I keep pressing the wrong button. Oh well, I imagine it'll have more options soon.

Game is almost perfect. I can forgive that it has worse IQ than Wipeut HD.
 
Haven't noticed any music repeats so far, which is a really good thing.

The entire Xenon cup is pure hype. Station and Zvil are current favorites of mine.

Station is basically "learn to lean or die".
 
I'm trying to think of another logical button layout that doesn't require pressing same-side shoulder/trigger buttons at the same time... I can't think of any. Shifting left and right almost has to be on either L/R or ZL/ZR. The only thing I can think of is putting left and right shift on X and Y. That would free up ZR for accelerate and ZL for phase shift (since phase shift takes priority over break. But then... there will still be plenty of times when you need to hold down boost while shifting, which throws a wrench into things since they would all have to be done with one thumb.

I mean, yeah, they should update it to allow customizable controls so people can do it however they want, but I can't think of any way that would be more comfortable than, or allow for as many options as, the default. Either way you slice it you're going to have to hold down a bunch of buttons at once while wiggling between the shifts, and using the middle finger to accelerate and index to boost is probably the best option.
 
After several courses... I can say this game is F-Zero meets WipeOut with a Ikaruga mechanic thrown in for good measure.

I like it. Now just let me change my buttons.
Gsnap said:
I'm trying to think of another logical button layout that doesn't require pressing same-side shoulder/trigger buttons at the same time... I can't think of any. Shifting left and right almost has to be on either L/R or ZL/ZR. The only thing I can think of is putting left and right shift on X and Y. That would free up ZR for accelerate and ZL for phase shift (since phase shift takes priority over break. But then... there will still be plenty of times when you need to hold down boost while shifting, which throws a wrench into things since they would all have to be done with one thumb.

I mean, yeah, they should update it to allow customizable controls so people can do it however they want, but I can't think of any way that would be more comfortable than, or allow for as many options as, the default. Either way you slice it you're going to have to hold down a bunch of buttons at once while wiggling between the shifts, and using the middle finger to accelerate and index to boost is probably the best option.
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I was thinking to keep lean buttons where they are, keeping acceleration on 'A' (doesn't bother me at all personally), and putting boost on 'B' with break on 'Y'. That would be an improved set up for me personally.
 
FreedomFighter said:
I was thinking to keep lean buttons where they are, keeping acceleration on 'A' (doesn't bother me at all personally), and putting boost on 'B' with break on 'Y'. That would be an improved set up for me personally.
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Possibly. But then you wouldn't really be able to hold accelerate and boost at the same time. At least not comfortably. I guess that wouldn't be too bad, but it'd throw me off for sure.
 
ec0ec0 said:
Posting here because the review thread is already kind of dead (my bad)

After watching more footage...

Gameplay-wise, Fast Racing Neo seems really simple while F-Zero GX was rather complex.

It looked like there's only two different types of turns: "regular turn" (when you simply use the analog stick) and "slide turn" (when you add ZL/ZR). Is that the case?

For comparison, F-Zero GX had two main "states": "grip state" (default) and "drift state" (once you lost your grip, unnintentionally, or by pressing both triggers). The same inputs would give you different turns on different states.

The regular turn and slide turn in Fast Racing Neo look similar (with less grip) to what you would get in F-Zero GX, with the same inputs, while in grip state. However, the drift state options seem to be missing enterely.

In F-Zero GX, while in drift state, moving the analog stick would give you a "drift turn" while adding a trigger (R/L) would give you a "quick turn". These two were the ones that allowed you to turn "on a dime" and, therefore, made it possible for the developers to desing those crazy circuits full of sharp turns that some loved (myself included xD)

If there's nothing similar in Fast Racing Neo, that would explain why the circuits feel like long straights when compared to many F-Zero circuits :p It seems that you need to anticipate even the easiest turn.

Without the grip state-drift state duality, i wonder where all the F-Zero comparisons are coming from, as one of the most recognizable aspects of F-Zero is the fear of tilting the analog stick a bit too much, which "breaks" your grip, and suddenly changes your regular turn into a drift turn (making you crash against the rail :p). Another instance where you could enter "drift state" unintentionally in F-Zero GX was when another ship touched you (in Fast Racing Neo it seems that you enter a spinning animation).

Other recognizable F-Zero aspects (seemingly) absent in Fast Racing Neo:
- the track design, which you can't have unless your ship can turn "on a dime"
- a handling system that gives you multiple turn options that you can combine
- being able to boost and still take the sharpest of turns with easy
- your ship being small in relation to the track, while being surrounded by many other ships
- boosts are short, and you start to quickly lose the speed gained as soon as the boost effect ends. To reach high speeds, you need to do multiple boost in sucession.

Why all the F-Zero comparisons? The main thing that they have in common is the speed and, in that aspect, Fast Racing Neo is probably going to be faster on straights (just hold the button and watch) while slower on turns (it seems that you don't have tools to take a turn really fast)

Anyway, i'd like if someone with the game could mention if there's more turn options aside from the two obvious one.
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Quite informative. Thx!
 
Gsnap said:
I'm trying to think of another logical button layout that doesn't require pressing same-side shoulder/trigger buttons at the same time... I can't think of any. Shifting left and right almost has to be on either L/R or ZL/ZR. The only thing I can think of is putting left and right shift on X and Y. That would free up ZR for accelerate and ZL for phase shift (since phase shift takes priority over break. But then... there will still be plenty of times when you need to hold down boost while shifting, which throws a wrench into things since they would all have to be done with one thumb.
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Clicking the left-stick for phase-change would solve a lot of problems.
 
Gsnap said:
Possibly. But then you wouldn't really be able to hold accelerate and boost at the same time. At least not comfortably. I guess that wouldn't be too bad, but it'd throw me off for sure.
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I tend to hold my entire thumb over each one of the face buttons. So the tip of my thumb is over Y and X while my MCP joint is on B and A. So I basically just lean my thumb left or right and apply pressure on whichever button I need. This a result of years of training on Super Mario World - I never let the run button go in that game lol.

Granted, this may work in theory. In execution, might be flawed. But I think it might be a solution if and when Shinen patches in button mapping.
 
KingSnake said:
This game is like the perfect modern arcade game.
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Yes, it's extremely good.

The simplicity of the menus and the pick up and play design really makes it feel like something I would have purchased on Dreamcast (I mean that in the best possible way).
 
I played the first three cups and it's quite the looker, I also like how unforgiving some tracks are.

Good stuff! Gonna try out online play this weekend.
 
I've managed to run through the first cup - what a great game and amazing technical accomplishment.

It's genuinely fun and looks and sounds incredible for the hardware it's running on.

If you mourn the death of FZero and Wipeout then you owe it to yourself to buy this game. If enough do this, the right signals will be sent.
 
MrPanic said:
Sunahara Desert, what the heck is up with this level on hypersonic. Some normally safe rocks that totally kill you now, collision with invisible stuff on the track, horrible collision detection off track, that last jump just straight up killing you if you go too fast sometimes. That track is pure trash tier in its current state.
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That track feels like it doesn't really belong into this game. It's rather a Mario Kart track than one suited for extreme speed.
 
Game is very fun , and for that price it's a nobrain

But what an honest shock when I just played it on my tv.
Yday I played it on the game pad as my God was watching tv. I felt it looked great and clean. But I didn't like the control with A button to accelerate. So I was waiting to play it today with a pro controller.
I'm not trolling what the hell is with this iq ? Feel like ps2 aliasing level. It's really hurting I just don't get this kind of iq nowadays. Well at least with pro controller it feels better but damn

Edit : playing less than 2m from a 1.75m tv So I have my nose in the screen
 
f@luS said:
Game is very fun , and for that price it's a nobrain

But what an honest shock when I just played it on my tv.
Yday I played it on the game pad as my God was watching tv. I felt it looked great and clean. But I didn't like the control with A button to accelerate. So I was waiting to play it today with a pro controller.
I'm not trolling what the hell is with this iq ? Feel like ps2 aliasing level. It's really hurting I just don't get this kind of iq nowadays. Well at least with pro controller it feels better but damn

Edit : playing less than 2m from a 1.75m tv So I have my nose in the screen
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Sorry. Your God? I feel like there's a story there.
 
f@luS said:
Edit : playing less than 2m from a 1.75m tv So I have my nose in the screen
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That'll do it.

Haven't played my Wii U for quite a while after building a PC but tempted to get this and XCX. Is it very much a pick up and play kind of game??
 
wish there was a way to get rid of phase changing, or put it on automatic, or have a dedicated button for each color instead of a switch button
 
:Motorbass said:
MUELLER PLS
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maxcriden said:
Sorry. Your God? I feel like there's a story there.
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When a game is clean like Zelda or Mario on wiiu it's very nice but even on Mario kart the aliasing was a bit annoying but nothing like Fast. Really distracting here and since the game is fast the moving edges are acting like crazy



Long time I didn't see such aliasing. I'll stop speaking about this as it is as it is
 
f@luS said:
When a game is clean like Zelda or Mario on wiiu it's very nice but even on Mario kart the aliasing was a bit annoying but nothing like Fast. Really distracting here and since the game is fast the moving edges are acting like crazy



Long time I didn't see such aliasing. I'll stop speaking about this as it is as it is
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Something seems to be very wrong here... The game doesn't look that way at all on my system. What Wii U output resolution do you have in the system settings?
 
jariw said:
Something seems to be very wrong here... The game doesn't look that way at all on my system. What Wii U output resolution do you have in the system settings?
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I'm on automatic and it's 1080p

Edit : just tried 720p it's more or less the same. I don't have any issue in particular with other games so ...
 
f@luS said:
When a game is clean like Zelda or Mario on wiiu it's very nice but even on Mario kart the aliasing was a bit annoying but nothing like Fast. Really distracting here and since the game is fast the moving edges are acting like crazy



Long time I didn't see such aliasing. I'll stop speaking about this as it is as it is
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I can't see the image you posted at work, but I played this last night on a projector and the aliasing is on par with MK8 from what I saw. Maybe you have some TV mode on?
 
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