It's basically Star Wars tradition to have a cool looking character do very little and die
Star Wars: The Force Awakens |OT| A New Hope
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It's basically Star Wars tradition to have a cool looking character do very little and die
spindashing
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Same here. I'm using the Web Player though, that could be why.
WadiumArcadium
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Yeah, it didn't appear on the Web Player for me either. It works on the desktop version.
brandonh83
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So do we really have to listen to Trevorrow sucks Episode IX gonna suck until 2019 when it turns out to be good? Because if so that's annoying as all hell. None of you know how he'll do. It's kneejerk cynicism because you didn't like his dinosaur movie. I didn't like Brick or Looper but I'm not worried about VIII because it's a different thing and I trust that Rian, in conjunction with Kathleen and the others at Lucasfilm will ensure that it's good.
People were also moaning about Abrams at first because Into Darkness gave them cholera or something and lens flares, yadda yadda. Jurassic World wasn't even badly directed.
People were also moaning about Abrams at first because Into Darkness gave them cholera or something and lens flares, yadda yadda. Jurassic World wasn't even badly directed.
the effect is kind of erotic in a spaceballs schwartz type of way
God, imagine an announcement: Spaceballs The Schwartz Awakens...
Good.
shortsFortallPeople
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so far, it ranges from being okay to the best star wars movie since ROTJ.
a sensible person would place their expectations somewhere in between
Razgriz-Specter
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You'll hear it till then. Jurassic World's reception has steadily sunk online as we further move from its release. Trevorrow isn't well liked amongst Internet movie types.
Fine Ham Abounds
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I don't see how ROTS is better than ROTJ. Jedi may have been a mess pacing-wise, and some of it didn't make a lot of sense, but the themes and characters carried it. ROTS was like bad fanfiction, devoid of believable relationships, motivations, actions, characterizations. This is not for want of trying, if anything it may have tried too hard in some places even if not enough in others, it still failed uniformly to feel organic or true. It had no heart. It's like the difference between new Simpsons and old Simpsons.
Doesn't work on dekstop version either here.
ViewtifulJC
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Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Yeah, I feel you on that. Also, even with a Coke-haze Carrie Fisher, the romantic scenes in ROTJ were less painful than ROTS.
Inferno313
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Which is a shame because Trevorrow's first film is probably better than anything Abrams has made.
brandonh83
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Internet movie types lol. I guess when you put it that way it's really not even worth worrying about. Still annoying.
Why? What has he done to earn your trust? If he's done nothing but make movies you don't like, why would you now expect him to change that?
The last people on Earth at whose feet I'm going to lay down my unconditional loyalty are Hollywood folks. Sorry, but that seems absurd to me. Especially when they've yet to make a a movie I've enjoyed. Good movies don't come out of the ether - you don't will them into existence. They are the products of the people who made them.
Inferno313
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Hmm, maybe with the exception of Star Trek '09. But yeah, Safety Not Guaranteed is a sweeter, more fun, and more original ode to Spielberg-style filmmaking than Super 8. Easily much better than Into Darkness or MI3.
Yeah it does. There is basically no dialog for the first 20 minutes. Luke doesn't show up for quite a while. Fantastic start
X2 is the most offensive because the action in it is TERRIBLE. The Lady Deathstryke fight is downright embarrassing! Aside from THE USUAL SUSPECTS and DAYS OF FUTURE PAST, Singer's movies are utterly devoid of charisma. The lack of charisma is what made SUPERMAN RETURNS the utter turd it was!
So anyway, Trevorrow will be a solid YES MAN for Episode IX. The would never hire a Brad Bird since he's a CONFIRMED FASCIST after TOMORROWLAND!
shortsFortallPeople
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The script for JW was pretty terrible, and yes im aware that it's a film about a dinosaur theme park and how ridiculous that sounds. That's kinda concerning given that we've had 3 star wars films with pretty terrible writing and not so good character dialogue. So the hope would be that whatever script he gets can carry him for the film because I did enjoy the action in JW in spite of the rest
oh okay i was taking you seriously earlier but now i know not to do that from here on out
Lol. I think you're going to be waiting for a while. Negative reactions have still been pretty positive.
I will never understand you guys that are predisposed to hate things out the gate. My guess is that we're probably going to get a crowd pleasing, fun, Star Wars movie with a couple of really neat moments.
Also, the real test of these films will be how they resonate with people. Lots of folks have pointed out the Every's Episode 1 review. He also poorly reviewed A New Hope when it was released. However this movie is reviewed (I anticipate and 8 maybe), it's how regular folks feel about it that will matter.
brandonh83
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Because I don't have a problem with Rian's directing specifically and it won't be the same kind of thing or script. Perhaps I'm not internet movie type enough, but I don't deal in absolutes.
You could not possibly be more wrong.
maquiladora
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This might be the worst opinion I've read all year.
There's a sense of danger in every corner in A NEW HOPE that we take for granted. The Jawas, the Krayyt dragon skeleton, etc. It's the hardest to sit through of all the OT though. I like ROTJ better because of it.
If you want to watch the OT in a meaningful way, do it without phones or devices or distractions. My gf and I have been doing that and ESB was a fucking crackling good time. Jesus Christ look at how much Harrison Ford is acting! So much going on in his face when he goes in the carbon freezing chamber.
Kölsch Bloot
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This is going to suck so hard it's not even funny anymore.
Keeping expectations loooooooooooowwwwwwwwww
ViewtifulJC
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on the very same page, we got somebody calling JW good and X3 the best X-Men movie
Watching the "Anti-Cheese" edits of the prequels on my own, while I watch the OT in the evenings with the wife.
The Anti-Cheese definitely make the prequels better. Not necessarily good, but it definitely makes certain characters, (Jar Jar) more palatable.
There is one cut that is actually more awkward, though. In Ep 2, Anakin's speech about hating sand goes directly into him kissing Padme. It's suuuper weird.
The Anti-Cheese definitely make the prequels better. Not necessarily good, but it definitely makes certain characters, (Jar Jar) more palatable.
There is one cut that is actually more awkward, though. In Ep 2, Anakin's speech about hating sand goes directly into him kissing Padme. It's suuuper weird.
brandonh83
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Not really a huge event as plenty think JW is good.
Inferno313
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I'm so confused having not seen any of these movies.
ViewtifulJC
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don't
Fine Ham Abounds
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I'm surprised how pleased I am to hear that parts of it are funny. It's hard to remember sometimes how central humor was in the OT.
It's kind of amazing that the movie doesn't completely fall apart in the first 30 minutes or so of the movie. You start off with that awesome Star Destroyer opening that sets a really good space action tone, and then the pacing of the movie basically comes to an absolute stop once the droids get on Tatooine and it doesn't really pick up at all until everyone gets to the Death Star.
Troll post? I think at worst it'll be mediocre.
ViewtifulJC
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I said it was the best of the first three! FIRST CLASS is probably my favorite one. Maybe DOFP.
Fine Ham Abounds
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I think it's interesting you throw this blanket over all the criticism you see of JW and Trevorrow, and in the same breath say you don't deal in absolutes. Whatever. I don't like Trevorrow's movies - all two of them - and I'm not confident that making two lame movies enables to him make a movie I am very invested in. Maybe that makes me an internet movie type, I don't know.
It was.
If anyone hasn't read the Making of Star Wars book, go and read it now! It's practically mandatory reading if you are a Star Wars fan or just interested in moviemaking and film history. It also makes you wonder what George Lucas did in his youth to collect the sort of karma that followed that production. It's a wonder the film was ever made.
Fine Ham Abounds
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I feel great about Episode 8 and 9 because I have no idea who these people you guys talking about are
I haven't seen a JP movie since 2 or an Xmen movie since 1
I haven't seen a JP movie since 2 or an Xmen movie since 1
brandonh83
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That was a joke callback to a previous exchange, nothing more.
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