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[Meowster]

Nah man. One has good characters, one doesn't. Simple as that.

Yes.. The first has Qui-Gon and Palpatine.

 

[Ghostmaster]

This is such bullshit. Lando was awesome.

I think that was a sarcastic response to the post complaining about Poe being just a white guy for white guys in the audience.

 

[tkato]

Yup.

Yet he's scary in his own way. That unhinged personality can be downright frightening. I am with the stormtroopers - slowly backing away.

You can always tell him his grandfather is better then him and he'll cry himself to sleep.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Nah man. One has good characters, one doesn't. Simple as that.

Wait... which one had good characters?

 

[brandonh83]

Well as it stands, both segments (Maz's Castle and Starkiller) feels too truncated. It's underwhelming. They've already made the decision to rip that part off from ANH, might as well go in all the way and make it feel meaningful.

The first was a skirmish that decided to focus on the characters. I don't equate the battles with whether or not Poe was useless. He did blow the fuck out of Starkiller at the end.

 

[DrForester]

Loved it. Fuck the haters.

5 > 4|7 > 6 > 1 > 3 > 2

Sounds like my list. Will more firmly rank TFA once it settles.

Agree on the prequel ranking as well.

 

[Pineapple]

This was honestly my biggest problem with the movie.
He's trained by LUKE for God's sake. He's well trained enough to be trusted by Snoke to be leading this expedition and the Knights of Ren.

I'm all for Rey surprising the shit out of Kylo with how strong with the force she is, maybe even surprising him with her combat, but it should have stopped there.
Show his surprise and his recoil, and have something intervene the fight so it ends to be continued later.

Agree. Trained by Luke years ago, then trained by Snoke. I was shaking my head throughout that entire fight.

Also, the ending would have been much more powerful if Rey would have gotten destroyed by Kylo. That could have actually provided a strong impetus for her to seek out and become trained by Luke.

Instead, I'm sitting there watching the end thinking...why is she wasting her time with Luke? She just picked up a lightsaber for the first time and completely destroyed a Force user that has been training for years. It seems she already has it all figured out.

 

[a916]

Yup.

Yet he's scary in his own way. That unhinged personality can be downright frightening. I am with the stormtroopers - slowly backing away.

I laughed at that moment... but thinking back, it takes the emotional weight of it down a notch. What should've been a guy getting mad and throwing a temper... is now remembered as that one funny joke.

 

[TheOctodad]

Yup.

Yet he's scary in his own way. That unhinged personality can be downright frightening. I am with the stormtroopers - slowly backing away.

Kylo is a scary psychopath.

Vader was a scary badass.

 

[giga]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

 

[The Elite]

Ren is when you take the internet, bash it over the head with Star Wars and put a bucket on its head. I agree that he is supposed to be a pale imitation. It totally works.

He is the Star Wars fanboy. I love it.

 

[shem935]

Yes.. The first has Qui-Gon and Palpatine.

I mean...you're entitled to your opinion, but if you are trying to hold those guys up as even the equal to any main character in this movie, then we can just disagree.

 

[Shaanyboi]

He is the Star Wars fanboy. I love it.

Yup. It's fantastic. Lol

 

[16BitNova]

I can't get this film out of my head. I'm going to have to see it again this week. And then one more time after that on New Years week. So good. Damn the wait for episode 8.

 

[rokkerkory]

I also think the whole Finn/FN thing is the most wonderful troll in recent memory, I remember all the speculation that they wouldnt release his last name, he doesnt have one

Brilliant

Well he does but its irrelevant

Poe named Finn

Best friends

It was awesome indeed loved it

 

[LionPride]

After thinking it over my rankings for Star Wars is now something along the lines of 7>5>4>3>6>1>2. Top to bottom TFA is a better movie than any of the previous films

 

[brandonh83]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

You think she was trained to be a skilled Force user at such a young age that she forgot somehow? I mean maybe but it kind of doesn't add up much.

 

[injurai]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

Nah, she is trained and practiced with a staff. She knows how to block and defect. But you can tell she has a very awkward combat style. Focusing on deflection and piercing stabs. Keeping both her own and Kylo's blade away from her body.

 

[Meowster]

I mean...you're entitled to your opinion, but if you are trying to hold those guys up as even the equal to any main character in this movie, then we can just disagree.

I'm not at all. I'm equating them to the main characters of II..

 

[TheOctodad]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

I feel like it was obvious.

But a lot of people can't help but jump to conclusions or get angry that it's not getting revealed in this movie.

 

[MMarston]

Nah man. One has good characters, one doesn't. Simple as that.

Anakin: *does creepy molester stare*

Padme: "Stop looking at me like that."

Anakin: 'Why not?"

Padme: "It makes me feel uncomfortable."

Anakin: *keeps doing creepy stare*


Said pair makes out 10 minutes later.


Good characters, people.



EDIT: And Episode I Padme is the best one.

 

[Henkka]

He is the Star Wars fanboy. I love it.

He thinks being a badass Sith is all about having a voice-filtering mask and a red lightsaber. He likes lightsabers so much he put 2 tiny lightsabers on his big lightsaber.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

I think that's the most sensible explanation, but if we're wrong on that, she'll be a pretty silly character in my eyes.

 

[Skellig Gra]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

That would be a shitty twist imo

 

[jtb]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

She's clearly force sensitive, but nothing in the movie suggests that she's had any training. if anything, they make it really clear that her parents were probably murdered... because she was force sensitive? and that she's in hiding because of it? obviously echoing Luke in ANH

 

[giga]

You think she was trained to be a skilled Force user at such a young age that she forgot somehow? I mean maybe but it kind of doesn't add up much.

Yup.

"Somehow" forgot or someone erased her memory.

 

[tkato]

I really want to see the movie again but in 2D, I felt the 3D was a bit too distracting for my taste and the colors and movement seemed off, can't wait for it to come out on bluray

 

[kingocfs]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

I think they can go either way at this point and have it be completely valid.

 

[Ape Gone Insane]

Is the novelization/audiobook worth getting? Or is it really just a text copy of the film?

 

[shem935]

I'm not at all. I'm equating them to the main characters of II..

Ohhhhhh okay that makes more sense. Thought you were comparing it to this movie not to two. My misread sorry.

 

[gutter_trash]

Exactly. Poe isn't even white.

Yes he is.

 

[Pineapple]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

This is the only thing that could rectify my disappointment with her organic super power up that we see in the final act. If she's Luke's daughter, and had already had years of training by her father...and then is able to remember those teachings and employ them at the end of TFA - well, that would completely change the complexion of the film for me, making it much, MUCH better.

I just hope that's the route they take.

 

[pringles]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

Quite possibly.

Also I'm not sure about the timeline but Kylo must have not been trained by Luke all that long. Did they say how many years Luke has been missing? Kylo is someone that is not in tune with either the light or dark side of the force in TFA. Rey is a prodigy. It's not master-vs-noob, it's student-vs-prodigy.

 

[Tugatrix]

Kylo even said she was powerful with the Force. It's what kept her alive this long. But her tapping in at the end, coupled with her anger of seeing Han and (presumably at the time) Finn both getting killed, she's using that rage against Kylo. I said last night, she was channeling the force at the end but in the wrong way, and that's what gave her the upper hand.

this. You could see her raging and using the force in darkish way.

Also I speculate she is a skywalker too, I just don't know yet if she's luke daughter or Leia's and Han's( they could have made a pact not to tell her and leave her on jakku and see if she doesn't turn to the dark side like her brother)

 

[Emdeepee]

This could probably go in the OT, but just incase it's a bit of a spoiler...

It's staggering how many of the released toys are nowhere to be seen. Finn's speeder, Poe's speeder, first order speeder, snow speeder, sand speeder, first order walker. There was even a Constable Zuvio figure (including black series version).

Wonder if this points to some serious (late) cuts in all three acts, and might allow a major blue ray special edition like Lord of the Rings.

 

[megalowho]

So is Han Solo going to resurrect as Darth Icky or Darth Insanius?

Darth Indica

 

[a916]

I feel like it was obvious.

But a lot of people can't help but jump to conclusions or get angry that it's not getting revealed in this movie.

It's not obvious and you're supposed to make a logical leap to put together what they were hinting.

If you're asking the audience to make a leap in logic, you're opening yourself up for different levels of interpretation. There's no need to talk down to other fans who saw it differently.

 

[injurai]

EDIT: And Episode I Padme is the best one.

Yup. I can entertain debates between 1 and 3. Both have problems and strengths to me.

But Attack is bottom of the barrel, full stop.

 

[The Elite]

I think Rey has been trained with her staff. I doubt she learned that on her own. It's obvious someone raised her as well.

 

[VincentMatts]

Yup.

Yet he's scary in his own way. That unhinged personality can be downright frightening. I am with the stormtroopers - slowly backing away.

Yeah, he's constantly questioning himself. Hurt not hurt, it doesnt help him against people on his level like Rey. Not only was he injured but hes also not confident at all in his abilities. There's obviously much more to him and i think thats what people dont like. Theres more but we dont know it, so it just comes off as bad. He does have his grandfathers temper though. Just not his confidence.

 

[MetalFearSolid]

Just watched it amazing.

Lol Kylo Ren telling Rey she needs a master then prepares to get his ass handed to him. What a beatdown.

So how did Po escape Jakku did the resistance just find him there after the First Order left and stuff?

 

[Brannon]

He thinks being a badass Sith is all about having a voice-filtering mask and a red lightsaber. He likes lightsabers so much he put 2 tiny lightsabers on his big lightsaber.

He's the worst thing ever, and I love him for it.

 

[giga]

Yes he is.

Oscar is Latino, fwiw.

 

[BTM]

Isn't it kind of obvious that Rey isn't a new force/lightsaber user and is just remembering how to use it again? She's been trained brehs.

I have this weird feeling that her memories were wiped or something before being dropped off on Jakku

 

[Monocle]

So is Han Solo going to resurrect as Darth Icky or Darth Insanius?

Darth Eevol.

His apprentice will be Badd Gai.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

It doesn't matter how experienced you are with a melee weapon - the guided reflexes that Jedi/Sith/Force users possess is unrivaled by anyone not attuned to the Force. The subtext of the film made it clear that the Force was not Finn's future. The fight between him and Kylo should have been over in two seconds.

I can accept the argument that Rey was able to fare better given that she's apparently an incredibly powerful Force user, but she was still untrained.

And even if you throw out the "Kylo was injured" rationalization, it still doesn't explain why the Force completely fails him when he tried to summon the blue lightsaber - which instead magically ends up in the hands of Rey.

They leave it open, there isn't a definitive point. The same force sound plays after the bloody hand touches his helmet, Kylo takes a notice of him immediately after that scene, he breaks from the indoctrination (hint he has an awakening), Maz clearly sees something in him when he speaks but her answer in "not now," and he still manages to get a strike on Kylo during their duel. They can really go either way for the rest of the trilogy.

 

[Pineapple]

Is the novelization/audiobook worth getting? Or is it really just a text copy of the film?

I have the novelization - it's not just a screenplay of the film - it contains a few additional details and some much needed context in certain areas.

 

[Mr Cola]

How long do blu rays tend to take to release? I honestly cant wait to watch this again in comfort several times in a row

It is so good to have Star Wars back, especially this thread, 176 pages in a week or so and eeverytime i refresh like 2-3 pages more of discussion.

 

[John Harker]

Do you have children? 7 years old watching 2 guys in love is really strange for them, lol.

But yeah, I could see Finn and Rey ending up together.

It's only really strange If you're bad at parenting.
It's 2015, no reason children should grow up thinking two men in life is strange unless they are intentionally being raised that way. Especially because, ya know, it's another galaxy with aliens everywhere.

Still, i read that as way more of a bromance anyway.

 

[injurai]

Yes he is.

Race and identity politics at it's worse ladies and gentlemen.