Randomizer123454444
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So... I can't use backup battery + headphones (earbuds) at same time, while travelling. I guess I'll have to switch to bluetooth headphones or something?
Supply Chain Rumors Reaffirm iPhone 7 Will Not Have Headphone Jack
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Love my iPhone and other apple products, but this would be pretty damn stupid.
It better come with a tiny sturdy adapter that I can just leave on my headphone AUX cords.
And to the people saying that the jack is barely used by anyone, have you ever been outside? What the fuck, it's straight up delusional to think it's a niche feature.
Headphones/earbuds are fucking ubiquitous in any city wherever you go. All of them wired up to a smartphone, been that way for years. Bluetooth headphones and especially earbuds fucking suck and are a piss poor substitute for wired.
'Thank god' for removing a 3.5mm thin jack? That sounds like the most severe of biases i've ever seen.
I'm in the 'this is bullshit' camp unless the removal of the jack comes with some ridiculous advantages. A slightly thinner phone isn't going to cut it.
It better come with a tiny sturdy adapter that I can just leave on my headphone AUX cords.
And to the people saying that the jack is barely used by anyone, have you ever been outside? What the fuck, it's straight up delusional to think it's a niche feature.
Headphones/earbuds are fucking ubiquitous in any city wherever you go. All of them wired up to a smartphone, been that way for years. Bluetooth headphones and especially earbuds fucking suck and are a piss poor substitute for wired.
'Thank god' for removing a 3.5mm thin jack? That sounds like the most severe of biases i've ever seen.
I'm in the 'this is bullshit' camp unless the removal of the jack comes with some ridiculous advantages. A slightly thinner phone isn't going to cut it.
"Apple wants you to use wireless, join us in the future", OP says, while simultaneously admitting Bluetooth headphones are mediocre at best and ignoring the reality that every high-end headphone made in the past billion years uses the 3.5mm headphone jack and there is no clear standard available either through Apple or anyone else that's any better, especially not Lightning and Bluetooth.
The 3.5mm jack isn't old dated shit. It's the best way to hook up headphones. It's still used despite being decades old because it works extremely well. There is no better alternative being proposed by Apple.
bobs...onGaf
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This will probably push me towards android if true - I don't want to have to buy apples expensive headphones and its going to be a pain to just check out a song or video if true
Also will be a disaster at work if I can't listen to music whilst also charging the thing
Also will be a disaster at work if I can't listen to music whilst also charging the thing
Apple seem to be slowly becoming worse as a company. Oh sure, they've always had this proprietary standards thing but if this is true it seems to be getting out of hand.
Like why do they seem to half-arse support for open standards? Surely every new iDevice should be using USB-C instead of lightning by now? That's like if the original iPhone had firewire instead of whateverthefuck USB
Like why do they seem to half-arse support for open standards? Surely every new iDevice should be using USB-C instead of lightning by now? That's like if the original iPhone had firewire instead of whateverthefuck USB
MarkMclovin
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I didn't say it doesn't. Read what I said again.
I said "Unless it can hook up to any bluetooth headset/earphones" meaning there's a chance they could make you HAVE to buy Apple headsets/earphones.
Plus bluetooth headsets, lol.
CosmicGroinPull
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Thanks Apple Gods, I shall get ready with this:
Gravy Boat
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My last 2 phones have been iPhones but if this is true then it'll probably push me back towards Android. I use my phone daily for listening to music and podcasts and I don't like the idea of having to us proprietary headphones.
nature boy
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If Apple is hell bent on using bluetooth instead of the lightning port, then I for one welcome our 5 hour battery life earbuds.
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I buy apple earbuds for my android phone (seem like the best balance between price, reliability and comfort) so this is going to be a pain in the arse.
I don't think 3.5mm is a perfect connector by any means but reading about what lightning headphones can do just makes me think it's all just an excuse to charge way more money.
I don't think 3.5mm is a perfect connector by any means but reading about what lightning headphones can do just makes me think it's all just an excuse to charge way more money.
teruterubozu
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Apple killing the music industry as always.
Hari Seldon
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Done with iPhones then.
Normally I'd say don't count consumers as 'fans'. But Apple eh I'm not sure what they can do that would piss off enough people to matter.
nature boy
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there's a whole lot of crazy in this thread. just buy a £1 converter from ebay, it's not really a big deal
I'm interested in seeing how apple sell this though, would lightning connector increase audio quality? have they got something better than bluetooth? even if it's just for design it's ok though, aux port takes a surprising amount of room on the board, it's not just about reducing thickness.
I'm interested in seeing how apple sell this though, would lightning connector increase audio quality? have they got something better than bluetooth? even if it's just for design it's ok though, aux port takes a surprising amount of room on the board, it's not just about reducing thickness.
jts
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Except there isn't, since people already own iPhones and know how they work?
What's wrong with headphone jack, besides "Apple is new and they are visionaries and they are the future so all they do is right" stuff?
No really, the technical reason, because bluetooth earphones are more expensive and many don't see them as upgrades, so I'm guessing there's a reason.
No really, the technical reason, because bluetooth earphones are more expensive and many don't see them as upgrades, so I'm guessing there's a reason.
Eh, people enjoy apple because they consistently deliver the best user experience. That has always been what matters.
Taking away the headphone jack is taking away one of the big reasons iPhones are as popular as they are. The iPhone and other smartphones have completely replaced the portable music player market and a lot of iPhones function as a portable music player every single day. Look around you while commuting or on public transit. Headphones and earbuds are as ubiquitous as the smartphones themselves.
Yeah, this either a joke/troll post or delusional.
Apple removes another feature > Apple cultists rejoice.
lol what an idiotic move and another reason why I will not use iPhones in the future. I have one as my business phone from my employer which I theoretically could use privately as well but I'd much rather continue using Android phones.
lol what an idiotic move and another reason why I will not use iPhones in the future. I have one as my business phone from my employer which I theoretically could use privately as well but I'd much rather continue using Android phones.
The only way the sound quality would be better is if the Lightning connector bypassed the phone's DAC entirely and the headphones had their own. But the headphones would need a significantly better battery and considerably more high priced electronics in. You'd only get an improvement in headphones that cost $400+.
(That would also almost certainly introduce significantly higher audio latency that would be an issue for pro applications.)
Joe Shlabotnik
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Well, they work for about 2-3 years after they're released. Then maybe they "work" for another year or two. Then most of them don't.
you think people will abandon iphones instead of buying a £1 adapter?
teruterubozu
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And so will your portable CD player.
FeenixRising
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Whatever you say Don Mattrick
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
By then, the standard will be resolved. No problem!
-Pyromaniac-
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It's funny because this change is going to have to happen eventually. People can't really believe that they'll be using 3.5mm jacks for the rest of their lives. It's a bitch now or bitch later situation. Lets get it over with now. Not to mention the vast majority of people who purchase iphones likely use the earpods that ship with the phone. The rest can use adapters or buy new wireless/lightning headphones if they need to.
Nonetheless it had to happen one day. Bring it on like flash and and cd drives.
Nonetheless it had to happen one day. Bring it on like flash and and cd drives.
(thank god)
I certainly won't. I love my iPhone 6.
But that doesn't make it less shit to even have to use your theoretical 1$ adapter.
As I said, there have to be substantial benefits to me personally if i'd ever consider removing the adapter a 'good move'. I can't see any thus far. That doesn't mean i'm switching to android anytime soon *shudder*.
It's not a dealbreaker, but a dumb move is still a dumb move. It makes the iPhone less appealing.
Actually, mine will explode.
Seriously, what does that even mean?
It should happen when there's a worthy replacement.
Super Wario
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Because theres no such things as wireless headphones...
-Pyromaniac-
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there won't be any worthy replacements when manufacturers don't have a reason to make any. Apple is giving them a reason.PSY・S;191283953 said:
And I also get a chuckle at people still thinking it's due to thinness and only thinness.
You can't make a £1 adaptor. Lightning outputs digital audio only, so you'd need any connector to include a DAC processor to convert the signal into analogue. That's the reason a Lightning to 30 pin connector costs £35.
okay this makes sense, I was just thinking that aux cables would have more noise due to weaker contact points
yeah I agree, I'm really not sure what the advantages are, but I just don't see it as a big deal. I think it's just interesting because of what apple will say the advantages are, I'm curious to see which direction they want to move music peripherals into, because there is 0% chance apple are abandoning music listeners with this move (like some in this thread suggest)
there's a selection of lightning to 30 pin adapters for less than £5 on ebay. I don't know about the quality, but I can't see costs being so high.
I bet that 0.7% of the worldwide headphone/earbud userbase is thrilled.
internetwolf
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wireless!
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