WWE teases one of the most significant bulk talent acquisitions in WWE history
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Just look up, not down.
Really not that complicated, just don't tuck your damn chin and you're good.
Yeah, fuck Nakamura and his meaningless IC title. How dare he kick out of the most devastating wrestling finisher ever made.
Sorry I meant WWE IC title bruh! You know how prestigious that title is.
I'd argue that he kicked out of a half Clash - AJ didn't fully have control of Nak coming out of the triangle. Wasn't the full move. Again, really cool ring psychology that has no place in WWE which is LOL KICK OUT OF TOP ROPE WHITE NOISE COS LOL
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AJ Style is kind of a big deal for me.
Doubt it as some of the Divas has been performing it. I think it was Emma if I recall correctly.
Hey_it's_john
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I bet Nakamura only signed a one year contract- if he does well it can only help NJPW recognition in the States.
spindashing
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This is awesome.
It totally reminds me of this:
Hopfully all 4 of them will be big stars.
I doubt it, RIP
This was so good. One of my favorite angles of all time. Blew my fucking mind.
I miss that feeling.
DarkArterialGore
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Okada was Okato in TNA...
Who is the biggest guy that AJ has performed the Styles Clash on, Abyss maybe? I've seen him do it to some Japanese wrestlers and he looks like he struggles a bit holding them as his arms don't look particularly strong these days and he's 38. I can't picture him picking up some of the monsters on the WWE roster(not that he has to be booked against them in fairness).
UberTag
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In retrospect, they should have loaned all of their talent out to TNA for foreign jobber duty.
Soleil rouge
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I think she's more like a slighly meaner, Japanese version of Baylee. I've never seen Kana smile so much and act silly before she made it to NXT. Now she's like a demented kid in a candy store in the ring. It's a bit odd seeing her that way.
LiquidSolid
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Okada was Okato in TNA...
Uh, what's your point? 1. Okada wasn't a main eventer at the time. 2. Okada didn't sign with TNA, New Japan sent him there to learn. It's not even remotely comparable to WWE signing Nakamura (or trying to sign Okada, like they've done in the past).
funkystudent
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Gallows and Anderson obviously go to NXT and do a program with Balor.
Styles could go to the main roster and debut at the Rumble. Dude is use to working the american style and isnt getting any younger as is.
Nakamura as talented and experienced as he is.... probably gets a run in NXT just so he gets use to working with WWE and WWE gets use to working with him and just to avoid a Sin Cara mess.
How is Nakamura's english anyway?
Man... its crazy how their lives diverged after that.
Styles could go to the main roster and debut at the Rumble. Dude is use to working the american style and isnt getting any younger as is.
Nakamura as talented and experienced as he is.... probably gets a run in NXT just so he gets use to working with WWE and WWE gets use to working with him and just to avoid a Sin Cara mess.
How is Nakamura's english anyway?
This is awesome.
It totally reminds me of this:
Hopfully all 4 of them will be big stars.
I doubt it, RIP
Man... its crazy how their lives diverged after that.
She acted silly plenty of times as KANA.
Exactly. Which makes the hate for the move in this thread and in some other circles incredibly stupid.
So long as you don't pull a Kazarian, you'll be perfectly fine.
DKehoe
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I think the problem is that a lot of wrestlers tuck their chin out of habit because they are so used to doing that for other moves.
It's not a lot of wrestlers. He's been using that move for a decade and a half, and you can count the amount of times that it went wrong in that way on one hand.
He speaks it, it's probably just very heavily accented. Which is why he should be used like Asuka.
funkystudent
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I dont think the Styles Clash is that dangerous but that 1% of the time it goes bad... IT GOES BAD
I wonder how they will land on that. I mean Samoa Joe nearly killed Tyson Kid with the muscle buster and he is still using it in WWE.
I wonder how they will land on that. I mean Samoa Joe nearly killed Tyson Kid with the muscle buster and he is still using it in WWE.
spindashing
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Is it worth the risk, though? It's easier said than done.
You and I may understand how to take the move. Wrestlers that actually have experience may understand how to take the move but things in the moment unfortunately happen.
Indrid Cold1
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Will be the J.O.B. Squad version 2.0.
ThreePiMatt
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What is the WWE's rationale for changing established wrestler's names when they come over? Is it one of those things where the WWE wants to own the names and characters and stuff like that? I'd certainly be bummed Shinsuke gets the Kenta/Kana treatment, especially given Shinsuke being one of, if not the, biggest name in NJPW.
It's a trademark thing.
I'd be surprised if they bother changing Styles' name though. Just not worth it at his age.
Why do people think they are skipping NXT?
Balor and Joe were in the exact same position and they've been in NXT for a while. Big time free agents. Old (34 and 36, AJ and Nak aren't much older). I'm not sure what Joe's situation is, but I know Balor was making a ton in New Japan. WWE is paying him very well... to stay on NXT. He's making main roster money on NXT.
This is WWE. They don't always do things that make sense. In this case, that might actually be a good thing. I think AJ and Nakamura will spend time at NXT at least for a few months.
If you're going to go that route, then a lot of basic pro wrestling moves can go wrong in very similar ways, so they should just end up doing strikes, submissions, vertical suplexes, and body slams. Everyone should just have the default create-a-wrestler movelist, just to play it safe.
ratcliffja
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Well he is ex-WCW to be fair. I remember loving him there. I never saw any of his TNA stuff.
BoboBrazil
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Nakamura going straight to the main roster would be a big mistake.
ThreePiMatt
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With the timing I guess it would make sense for them to debut at the Rumble. Would they bring them out for the Rumble then immediately send them back to NXT?
spindashing
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You're right. I can't disagree with any of that.
I don't know, I guess to make a long story short: I never really liked the move. I feel the same way about Joe's Muscle Buster which in my opinion should stay in wrestling games/cartoons.
Joe is a special case of circumstances that probably won't happen quite the same again.
For Bálor they didn't intend on him staying in NXT so long, but then their focus in NXT changed and now they need him to headline all these big tours. Their entire hiring philosophy has changed over the last year as a result of the shift in NXT's focus.
Hell AJ was passed over when he left TNA, they just threw him a cursory lowball offer with no real interest, but now two years later he's being brought in from NJPW for big time money. Guess he won that "battle", per say.
newdayrocks
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If those dummies would just stop tucking their chins, it wouldn't be a problem.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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They're getting paid substantially more than Finn Balor according to meltzer
newdayrocks
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McCool was gone from WWE by the time I started watching, so I had no idea. Made it look pretty good!
DKehoe
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Yeh, saying a lot of wrestlers was a poor choice of words. I just meant that there can be a split second moment in which someone can make the wrong choice out of habit. All moves come with a risk, it's just that with the Styles Clash as funkystudent said, when it goes bad it's really bad. But AJ has done the move thousands of times and makes a point of speaking to new opponents before the match and explaining what they need to do.
AHAHAHHAHAHA LOOK AT NAKAMURA HE'S TWERKIN MAGGLE! HE JUST WANTS TO HAVE FUN!!
Fair enough. I admittedly hated the move when I first saw it, but I came around when he started to get unique with his counters into it. It is sort of a move that can come out of nowhere, because he can get into that position off of many common transitions.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Meltzer doesn't know shit.
BoboBrazil
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Pretty much. Commentary is the worst it's ever been and it appears they actively try to make it worse.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think Itami learned a little bit. Asuka doesn't need English at all because she's booked perfectly as a foreign asskicker who doesn't need to speak more than a phrase or two.
I'm pretty sure it's been done before. Rusev appeared in the Rumble one year then went back to NXT.
The Rumble would be a great way to debut AJ just to get that pop and make him seem like a big deal... ignoring the fact that will certainly get eliminated.
I'm pretty sure they even talk shit about NXT, let alone outside promotions. I seem to recall some women's dialogue along the lines of "This isn't NXT, this is the big leagues!"
Uggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh
ThreePiMatt
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Yeah, but the Rumble has higher stakes this year with the Championship on the line. Not that they would just bring these guys in to take the title from Reigns, but does make things a bit more interesting.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
JBL having a job makes no sense to me; like he throws shade at the dudes they're trying to get over.
Why would it be safe to assume that
Ninja Scooter
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I can't wait for John Cena to cut a promo on them about how they may have been hot stuff in Japan, but this is America and in America that stuff don't fly, while also questioning one or two of their sexualities and dropping thinly veiled WW2 references.
Do you want to guess who's in his ear telling him to say everything he says?
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