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I really, really wish some brave black folk would start (legally) toting around guns.
Shit, just carry around airsoft.
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Extremist Militia Occupies Federal Building In Oregon
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I really, really wish some brave black folk would start (legally) toting around guns.
Shit, just carry around airsoft.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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haha the sheriff shook his hand and gave him a get out of jail free card. Jesus Christ.
aspiegamer
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Pretty much. And it's a shame, honestly! Were this happening in a vacuum and not in a US that's been torn to pieces with racism and xenophobia, this is a freaking awesome way for law enforcement to try to deal with the matter. Short term at least.
After a few days, the occupiers themselves started getting upset that they were either being mocked online or largely ignored by law enforcement and the general public overall. In an era of being able to quickly create huge exposure for yourself and rally people it's quite an insult to them. So they were given a few days to get bored and leave, the sheriff's extremely generous offer of "just leave, because you've embarrassed yourselves enough and are a laughing stock across the world and we sort of feel bad for you at this point" was turned down, and now I'm guessing law enforcement gets really pissed really quickly.
Again, if this were in a vacuum, or a fiction story. It's an incredibly rural area, in the dead of winter, at a non-essential government facility which was empty at the time and is available for only procedural purposes during this season (keeping risk to the general public to almost zero). In the amount of time it would have taken to get any sort of federal response in the area they were already internet memes and deemed more hilarious than dangerous. It's extremely possible that this non-reaction from the Feds has been deliberate. At the very worst it sounds like the sort of thing that would be a tutorial mission in an stealth video game. "There are these guys holed up in this remote government building and we have seriously no idea what they want. Do something? Idunno. Here's a megaphone, a radio and a pistol. Use some combination of them."
...But this is not in a vacuum, and that's just not how shit works in this country. Shouldn't, at least. The non-intervention by the Feds I think has still been deliberate (however misguided and setting of an awful example), as they were probably laughing about them on Twitter last weekend like everyone else was. Very hard for them to be taken seriously, but they need to step up and show that there are consequences for an armed occupation of Federal land.
Ammon Bundy's seen First Blood, he knows how this shit ends.
Afuckingmen! I'm sick of this shitty double standard. The fact that nothing has been done not even something as simple blocking entry to the building is infuriating. This should be a wake up call for minority communities to finally get our collective shit together and unite but we won't. We're all to happy to fight amongst each other and kill each other instead.
DrForester
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I think they have blocked access to the building. seem to remember reading that a few days ago.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/black-panthers-california-1967_568accfce4b014efe0db2f40
Here's How The Nation Responded When A Black Militia Group Occupied A Government Building
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DragonSworne
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Can't wait for the folks to come in here and explain in great detail why the cops were justified in that video.
theignoramus
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The country was founded on the premise of white men grabbing their guns and taking what they wanted by force. Independence from the Brits, land from American Indians, competitive advantanges in third world Latin America...these white men are just carrying on the tradition of attempting to get what they want by force of arms. Its as American as apple pie and while I dont agree with the racial double standard, I dont think this militia is all that crazy doing what theyre doing, the country's history is rife with disgruntled white men getting what they wanted through armed revolt.
I understand wanting to highlight this double standard, but you do realize what would happen if anyone did this, right?
Every black person within several blocks of those gun-shaped objects would be riddled with hundreds of bullet holes. Then the fact that they held guns would be used as "proof" that black people are dangerous, and then it would be used as justification for all sorts of hate crimes and random racist attacks/shootings across the country.
The New Black Panther Party is already doing this. (Not that these jackasses are worth celebrating.)
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Martyrdom. They want things to get ugly, so that they can prove their point.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Like Twitter in real life.
Mammoth Jones
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Word. Just really irritating and you know what...I'd be less upset if people were as honest as you are w/ just laying it out. But mofo's act like that never happened.
"We landed here and found this empty nation!"
"We spread democracy in Latin America!"
Ugh.
Hilarious? Yeah but then it just makes me feel like shit. Entirely. Seeing how clear the difference is really hits you in the balls. -- Not asking for storming the gates -- but just asking that I wish all encounters with LEO could be treated with these ginger emotions and concerns. These guys aren't thugs, they aren't animals.. They are being spoken about like some kids who have just gone too far and the townsfolk just want to reel em in before they hurt themselves. This just highlights the Justice system problems, and perception problems here.
Beer Monkey
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Sounds good for the local economy at least.
Skellig Gra
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They'd be dead in minutes.
stufte
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They could camouflage themselves in american flag clothes and cowboy hats.
Third Strike
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Ha. Somebody in the comments was justifying it by saying the black guy was carrying his gun differently... Absolutely ridiculous.
DrForester
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I don't want the cops to storm this compound. I wish this cautious approach with emphasis on deescalation was the norm with minorities. Instead they get the "They're coming right for Us!" and "respect my authoritah" police.
exactly. -- And not just law enforcement -- But the entire media behind this, the attitude towards this in the general public, its night and day.
Its like they are being treated as humans, with rights.
Mrs. Manky
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I wonder what part of the policy he violated. According to an article on About.com:
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marines/a/tattoo.htm said:
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Poet Centuriate
Who's the dude with the strange, contorted face?
just like some ol' pals.
look at that pic of them, just two dudes shooting the shit.
fucking hell.
Mammoth Jones
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I also read it's not accurate since it's two different cops and that the cop responding to the Black guy would have responded the same way to anyone because that's just his personality.
The hoops people will jump through to implicate anything *other* than racial bias is astounding.
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No, getting at their home would also be "government overreach"
SapientWolf
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That's basically the Huey P Newton Gun Club. But they're a hell of a lot smarter than these guys. I couldn't see them doing anything like this.
Take with a grain of salt, along with all stories coming from the seized federal building:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/ore...em-to-go-home-youre-surrounded-by-informants/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/ore...em-to-go-home-youre-surrounded-by-informants/
You and I both know the chance that they'd be dead within an hour of toting around said guns is fairly high.
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Well I for one am shocked that this group of people struggles to function as a group.
HP_Wuvcraft
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So now these guys are turning on themselves.
There's a Gamergate comparison to be made here, I'm just not getting it yet.
There's a Gamergate comparison to be made here, I'm just not getting it yet.
Lonewolf_92
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The other Bundy Brother, Ryan. From the way he looks I'd guess he had a stroke or what Jim Ross has, That or a steer gave him a really good kick in the head.
Yeah, according to those inside "Capt. O" was drinking up the donations they received through Ritzheimer's website and was staying at a local hotel rather than the refuge. One of the guys, Cai Irvin, posted a video about his disillusionment over the situation, crying and saying it was like finding out there was no Santa.
Lonewolf_92
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i guess the best call really was to not confront them. they're eating themselves from the inside out and might help the government more long-term rather than empowering their anti-government movement
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The other Bundy Brother, Ryan. From the way he looks I'd guess he had a stroke or what Jim Ross has, That or a steer gave him a really good kick in the head.
Apparently when he was 7, a car ran over his face. Really.
DrForester
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Confront them and give them an out was reasonable, it's the media circus they allowed it to become that's the problem I have. You don't see police shaking hands with a bank robber, or anyone else. Meeting should have been no-cameras.
Lonewolf_92
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The irony he is doing that interview for "Right Face" man...
Suikoguy
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Yeah, the lack of any response combined with the more positive then it should be media coverage that is actually looking at their issues means this will happen more often.
Want to get national coverage white touting your guns and get people to talk about your issues? Just take over a federal building!
Lonewolf_92
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Heavily armed 'security detail' shows up at Oregon standoff encampment
Long story short, Heavily armed members of the Pacific Patriot Network show up to act as a "security detail", Ammon Bundy tells them to buzz off, now the PPN are pedaling "articles of resolution".
Long story short, Heavily armed members of the Pacific Patriot Network show up to act as a "security detail", Ammon Bundy tells them to buzz off, now the PPN are pedaling "articles of resolution".
Dumbass infighting will never not be amusing.
RPGCrazied
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So, still no law enforcement?
Yeah, this is going to get worse before it gets better.
Yeah, this is going to get worse before it gets better.
Lonewolf_92
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The FBI and local law enforcement have a secure base at the local High School but haven't made an appearance in force at the refuge. It wouldn't surprise me if they have guys out in the woods keeping track of the comings and goings of the militia and what they're doing to gather evidence for future charges (at least I hope). Considering they've been seen driving around the property in federally owned vehicles and have claimed them for "the people" charges of GTA could certainly be added to the list of charges.
DrForester
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So the police have NOT blocked off access to and from the building? What the hell? I'm all for them being cautious and not storming the place, but what possible benefit is there in not cutting these people off from outside support?
HP_Wuvcraft
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..... I did not read this part.
At this point my only hope is that they have a lot of these guys in their notes already and are basically letting them finally incriminate themselves.
A right wing honeypot operation.
DrForester
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Still, It allows more people to show up. What if Bundy had wanted these new idiots to join them?
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