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[GraveRobberX]

Around 100 million people have played Final Fantasy at some point! And look how well Sci-fi does in China...Interstellar sold a ton! Transformers? Pacific Rim? Terminator? All massive in China! And isn't Final Fantasy huge in Asia?

Production budget: $137 million
Total budget: >$155 million

Total box office: $85.1 million



There have been a number of spectacular failures of video game movies in the worldwide box office. They are very risky. Even Universal the distributor thinks it's a risky bet.

So it's very easy for a movie like this to fail spectacularly. Video game movies aren't a tried and true model of profit like comic book movies, much to the dismay of executives. So ">$500 million internationally" isn't a given in the slightest.

Yeah but the movie was not a FF movie at all...
Some weird space generic Gaia bullshit

Now if they had done a story like LOTR did, the movie would've succeeded and not bankrupt Squaresoft into Square-Enix

 

[Son Of D]

I picked Hitman/Transporter and those were safe bets.

I know Bobby and me thought Minions would rake in everything but I think it lost steam.

Mother's Day, Snowden and Warcraft are my picks.

I honestly forgot that Transporter reboot existed until I randomly saw the DVD for sale in the UK last week.

 

[SchrodingerC]

I really hope Warcraft doesn't bomb. There is way more interesting lore to explore for the big screen.
They juuussst need to get over the human vs orcs speed bump.

EDIT: woof, some of these movie budgets are insane. The movie industry needs a serious retooling before they eventually collapse into themselves.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

These Two Films Will Flop!!!

• X-Men Apocalspe
• Batman vs Superman

Seeing as you're so adamant on this, are you prepared to take an avatar bet? Or, if the mods allow (and assist), a user tag?

My bet is Kindergarten Cop 2 starring Dolph Lundgren.

It's all relative though. Without looking this up, I'm willing to bet the budget is very low.

 

[FeD.nL]

I really hope Warcraft doesn't bomb. There is way more interesting lore to explore for the big screen.
They juuussst need to get over the human vs orcs speed bump.

EDIT: woof, some of these movie budgets are insane. The movie industry needs a serious retooling before they eventually collapse into themselves.

Warcraft will not bomb. It is #6 on imdb's 2016 most anticipated list which is measured by the traffic a title generates. The first trailer sits around 35m views across the different uploaders and it releases at the end of GoT S6 so interest in fantasy will be higher in that period.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Yep, people who greenlit 140 million for Gods of Egypt and 180 million for Tarzan will soon lose their jobs.

 

[Sean C]

I would argue the opposite. I think comic book fans are cringing at the idea of the movie being what it is. Initially started as a man of steel sequel and became a batman v superman movie. Then it become batman v. Superman feat. Wonderwoman. Then it became a dawn of justice movie. Now it has, based off the commercials, Lex luther as a villain, possibly dark seid, and the introduction of Doomsday --- how can you have a doomsday without superman dying? Essentially, this movie is Return of the Dark Knight, Death and Resurection of Superman and Dawn of Justice all wrapped into one sticky, messy ball. I think Comic book fans all around are cringing at the idea of what this movie is trying to do.

Whereas casual viewers are probably looking forward to guzzling down buckets of popcorn watching the only two superheros they probably know about going from misunderstanding adversaries to wise-cracking best friends. And for that, I think its going to do extremely well.

Yeah, I don't think there's any danger of Batman vs. Superman being a flop. The novelty factor alone will guarantee attendance.

What's at stake is less profitability than whether the film will be the universe-launching mega-hit that the WB desperately needs it to be. Success, for them, means the audience leaving the theatres eager to see films starring Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc., and positive about the overall direction of the franchise.

 

[SchrodingerC]

Warcraft will not bomb. It is #6 on imdb's 2016 most anticipated list which is measured by the traffic a title generates. The first trailer sits around 35m views across the different uploaders and it releases at the end of GoT S6 so interest in fantasy will be higher in that period.

Internet interest doesn't always translate into ticket sales, but hopefully Warcraft can make a decent BO Worldwide.

 

[Thatonemoor]

• X-Men Apocalspe
• Batman vs Superman

You know the definition of flop right?

 

[Syf]

Warcraft will not bomb. It is #6 on imdb's 2016 most anticipated list which is measured by the traffic a title generates. The first trailer sits around 35m views across the different uploaders and it releases at the end of GoT S6 so interest in fantasy will be higher in that period.

It's also the most anticipated Hollywood film in China this year.

 

[Hashmal_Bringer_of_Order]

Yeah, I don't think there's any danger of Batman vs. Superman being a flop. The novelty factor alone will guarantee attendance.

What's at stake is less profitability than whether the film will be the universe-launching mega-hit that the WB desperately needs it to be. Success, for them, means the audience leaving the theatres eager to see films starring Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc., and positive about the overall direction of the franchise.

That's a good point. Both BvS and Warcraft, to an extent, are very likely to not bomb, but they both need to do far better than that to not become the next Pacific Rim (i.e slightly profitable but not worth investing in as a franchise.).

 

[NevaNopa]

I'm sure the budget is comparatively low versus other animated movies, but I can't imagine anyone is going to see Ratchet and Clank.

 

[Valhelm]

This has flop written all over it. Maybe if it had come out a few years ago when WoW wasn't bleeding subscribers.

You guys should keep your eye on Warner Brothers' 180mil Tarzan movie.

One of these will be the next John Carter.

 

[eizarus]

...Please

I don't see it doing much better than MoS.

It will no doubt do way more than MoS for many reason; DCs' first teamup, Batman is their biggest money maker, tons of marketing, etc. etc.

 

[kylecoley182]

Ninja Turtles

 

[andythinkpad]

You guys are really down on Tarzan so much? It has both Christoph Waltz and Sam L Jackson, that's half of a Tarantino team right there. AND it has Margot Robbie. I thought you nerds eat up any movie with Robbie in it? So is it because the True Blood hate outweight the Margot Robbit love or something?

 

[Ridley327]

You guys are really down on Tarzan so much? It has both Christoph Waltz and Sam L Jackson, that's half of a Tarantino team right there. AND it has Margot Robbie. I thought you nerds eat up any movie with Robbie in it? So is it because the True Blood hate outweight the Margot Robbit love or something?

No, it's because few people have any love for Tarzan as a whole these days, especially with how highly questionable the concept reads so many years away from when Burroughs first wrote the books.

 

[Loakum]

Seeing as you're so adamant on this, are you prepared to take an avatar bet? Or, if the mods allow (and assist), a user tag?



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ok, I'll make an avatar bet! You pick the avatar, and if I lose I shall wear it! Also you get to pick how long I'll wear it! I back up my statements! (ps I don't know how to make user tags)

You know the definition of flop right?

*scratches my head* ugh....does it mean....not ugh...NOT selling at expected levels? lol, both those films looks Mortal Kombat Annihilation bad.

 

[SmackAttack]

You guys are really down on Tarzan so much? It has both Christoph Waltz and Sam L Jackson, that's half of a Tarantino team right there. AND it has Margot Robbie. I thought you nerds eat up any movie with Robbie in it? So is it because the True Blood hate outweight the Margot Robbit love or something?

Because a Tarzan movie does not need a $180 million budget.

 

[jackissocool]

Tarzan is gonna be bad but I think Gods of Egypt will absolutely crash and burn on a whole nother level. Warcraft is up in the air.

I really hope Ratchet and Clank doesn't bomb but I'm not optimistic.

 

[ghostwritingduck]

I thought the trailer for Tarzan looks pretty good. I think it's success will depend on the quality of the film.

 

[demosthenes]

It's also the most anticipated Hollywood film in China this year.

Duncan Jones also made 2 very good movies in Source Code and Moon. I believe the movie will be at least good which will help it.

 

[Son Of D]

It's also the most anticipated Hollywood film in China this year.

Yeah. I can see Warcraft underperforming domestically but international, especially China, will 'save' it.

 

[Cat Party]

Yeah. I can see Warcraft underperforming domestically but international, especially China, will 'save' it.

Or, more likely, this is exactly what the studio is expecting. Making Hollywood movies for China is nothing new.

 

[gatti-man]

$140m

My jaw meets the floor. I figured 60m at MOST. How could the Egyptian gods film cost that much holy shit.

 

[……forgetit]

ok, I'll make an avatar bet! You pick the avatar, and if I lose I shall wear it! Also you get to pick how long I'll wear it! I back up my statements! (ps I don't know how to make user tags)



*scratches my head* ugh....does it mean....not ugh...NOT selling at expected levels? lol, both those films looks Mortal Kombat Annihilation bad.

It means they won't make their money back, both of those films will make their money back easily on concept alone. Doesn't matter if they're good or bad. Steve Jobs was great and it bombed.

 

[gatti-man]

It will no doubt do way more than MoS for many reason; DCs' first teamup, Batman is their biggest money maker, tons of marketing, etc. etc.

It's looks AWEFUL. I don't see it doing well. If reviews are bad I could see it breaking even. Sure it won't lose money but I don't see it being very profitable.

 

[Boke1879]

It's looks AWEFUL. I don't see it doing well. If reviews are bad I could see it breaking even. Sure it won't lose money but I don't see it being very profitable.

Again posts like this show how the internet at large is completely out of touch with general audiences. Most people are excited for it. BvS is literally a fanboys wet dream. Batman, Superman, WW all on the same screen will do well based on that. Not to mention like others have stated Batman is huge.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

If reviews are bad

Reviews have had almost zero tangible effect on box-office for about two decades now. Basically ever since film criticism was more or less completely democratized by the internet.

Marketing and word of mouth carries the day. Reviews for Batman v. Superman, or Gods of Egypt, or fucking Tarzan, aren't really gonna make a difference.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

So many votes for Tarzan.

I really liked the trailer :\

welp, that sealed its fate

 

[Penguin]

Reviews have had almost zero tangible effect on box-office for about two decades now. Basically ever since film criticism was more or less completely democratized by the internet.

Marketing and word of mouth carries the day. Reviews for Batman v. Superman, or Gods of Egypt, or fucking Tarzan, aren't really gonna make a difference.

You really have it out for this Tarzan movie haha.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

You really have it out for this Tarzan movie haha.

I don't think I have it out for the movie, I'm just sorta befuddled as to how Warners can see what happened on Lone Ranger and John Carter and go "yeah. Let's hop on that fuckin' train"

Nobody's given any kind of a fuck about Tarzan since Phil Collins sang about him and his purple Ape-friend Rosie. And even then, people didn't really give a fuck.

$100 million? It wouldn't be that big a deal. $75 mil? Still an iffy bet, but hey. Almost $200 million dollars on a Tarzan movie in 2016? The fuck outta here with your crazy ass.

 

[Chamber]

Again posts like this show how the internet at large is completely out of touch with general audiences. Most people are excited for it. BvS is literally a fanboys wet dream. Batman, Superman, WW all on the same screen will do well based on that. Not to mention like others have stated Batman is huge.

Change internet to NeoGAF. Batman v Superman is top 3 on every poll I've seen about most anticipated movies for 2016. That thing will sleepwalk it's way to $1B.

 

[demosthenes]

It's looks AWEFUL. I don't see it doing well. If reviews are bad I could see it breaking even. Sure it won't lose money but I don't see it being very profitable.

Hilarious post is hilarious.

 

[Timbuktu]

The Great Wall with Matt Damon, Andy Lau, and Pedro Pascal is my pick.

It might do great in China, but I think it is going to bomb in the US and everywhere else, and it'll bomb hard. It seems like a niche production and with a budget of $135 million, I don't foresee good things in this film's future.

This must be the sci fi sequel where Infernal Affairs meet The Departed.

 

[mreddie]

Add me to the Tarzan will bomb club.

 

[Timbuktu]

Tarzan just feels like money laundering.

 

[Syf]

Tarzan just feels like money laundering.

lol, this might be the best way to put it

 

[Penguin]

Tarzan just feels like money laundering.

Okay, this one got me.

Gawd damn good stuff

 

[coy]

No way BvS will bomb. I can see it not being critically acclaimed but it'll be profitable.

Tarzan made for 180mil? Now we're talking because that's gonna hurt come release.

 

[Ridley327]

Tarzan just feels like money laundering.

"Damn it, the accountants need a new reason to write down Harry Potter Whatever the Fuck Number we're putting out this year!"
"I think I have a plan, and we don't even need to change directors!"

 

[eLGee]

Tarzan will probably never profit unless it's unbelievably good, but it will at least get more people into cinemas than that piece of shit Gods of Egypt. Holy motherfucker, it looks bad.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

It's looks AWEFUL. I don't see it doing well. If reviews are bad I could see it breaking even. Sure it won't lose money but I don't see it being very profitable.

Man of Steel had really mixed word-of-mouth and a 56% positive on Rotten Tomatoes, and still made $670 million. If you think attaching Batman to this project doesn't guarantee even more money, you're out of your mind. No Batman movie has ever only broken even. The biggest failure of the franchise, Batman and Robin, still made $238 million on a supposed $125 budget.

 

[Walker_Boh]

Do you guys think there will be another Jem and the Holograms type situation this year? We've been talking about bombs in this thread but I don't think anyone has mentioned anything on this level.

 

[danm999]

You guys should keep your eye on Warner Brothers' 180mil Tarzan movie.

I haven't even heard of this movie and it cost $180 million?

Yikes.

 

[duckroll]

Do you guys think there will be another Jem and the Holograms type situation this year? We've been talking about bombs in this thread but I don't think anyone has mentioned anything on this level.

That movie cost next to nothing to make. It's not worth mentioning.

 

[Thatonemoor]

Do you guys think there will be another Jem and the Holograms type situation this year? We've been talking about bombs in this thread but I don't think anyone has mentioned anything on this level.

I remember the budget being something really low. It bombed but it didn't seem that anyone put any real investment into the movie to begin with.

 

[The Beard]

It's at 61M WW on a 44M budget. Not exactly a flop, but it's going to have to fight to break even when you factor in the marketing costs.

H8 was a flop. They don't get to keep 100% of that money. Movie theaters get a portion. Then you factor in their marketing costs which must've been pretty high, and they are still pretty deep in the red.

 

[Measley]

I got a really bad feeling about Star Trek Beyond.

 

[DonMigs85]

I would probably go with WoW or that new Alice in Wonderland movie