Emily Rogers: Nintendo Working on Unannounced Wii U Game [Update: Paper Mario]

Aostia said:
But if the 16 nx hw is the portable maybe it is better to keep pikmin paper and Zelda for the e3
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They'd still have to talk about the NX Console, especially if both are sharing their games. As such, I'm expecting an announcement of Paper Mario U, if this rumor is true, within the next month or two.
 
Diffense said:
Nintendo threads are veritable fonts of negativity on neogaf. It's tiresome sometimes when you actually want to see comments about the subject of the thread instead of peripheral grouses.
The latest thing is that every thread about a game that has amiibo functionality rehashes the same complaints about "locked" content.
I'm not surprised that a thread about an unannounced new game has turned into another complaint thread even though we know JACK SHIT about this game apart from what the franchise is.
Let me just f&%^g imagine that's it'll be a game worth complaining about and let me just start f&^*&g complaining from now. And of course, when the game is actually announced I'll complain in its thread too!

Never more appropriate:
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This should be in the OP.
 
Yukinari said:
Nintendo still sells Excitebots on their online store after all these years. Maybe its made enough money back to finally allow them to make diddy kong racing 2.
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The problem is that Monster Games is like 20 guys. No way capable of HD development of a non eShop title or port
 
Village said:
You mean that thing that sells more than any other version of mario?
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He probably meant the thing that took down an entire console because people are sick of seeing it milked, while several parts of the Mario franchise have now reached new lows in either sales, critical acclaim or both because of it.
The NSMB umbrella has slowly turned into poison. Unless you still live in the year 2009, like the delusional management at Nintendo.
 
Yukinari said:
Nintendo still sells Excitebots on their online store after all these years. Maybe its made enough money back to finally allow them to make diddy kong racing 2.
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They should release it as a Wii Download Title and for the first Time in Europe. Still wanting that game :(
 
efyu_lemonardo said:
This turned into a "Nintendo is Lazy" thread? How??
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Speculation about new Nintendo game, people throw out ideas, it's ANOTHER Mario game, a series that hasn't had a good entry in a decade, don't know when we'll find out any details which is bad cuz Nintendo fans are so thirsty they're stalking Retro Studios HQ

Perfect recipe for pessimism
 
Yukinari said:
Nintendo still sells Excitebots on their online store after all these years. Maybe its made enough money back to finally allow them to make diddy kong racing 2.
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I'd take a digital version for Europe. I had the opportunity to play it back then, and that game was absolutely brilliant.

Spieler Eins said:
He probably meant the thing that took down an entire console because people are sick of seeing it milked, while several parts of the Mario franchise have now reached new lows in either sales, critical acclaim or both because of it.
The NSMB umbrella has slowly turned into poison. Unless you still live in the year 2009, like the delusional management at Nintendo.
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I love it when people make things up in their heads and they talk about it like it's objective truth. You have absolutely no way whatsoever to link New Super Mario Bros. to "taking down an entire console" (I mean, what?), or to link it to any misadventure of any other Mario title. I guess New Super Mario Bros. Wii is responsible for Super Mario Galaxy selling less than it even though NSMBW released after SMG?

I mean, holy cow. And you talk about being delusional.
 
One thing I'll never understand is why Super Paper Mario is constantly lumped with Sticker Star as "the bad ones." Sticker Star was only bad because it lacked new characters, previous PM cameos and a deeper plot. The gameplay was solid in all four games IMO.

Super Paper Mario had all that, and thus I'd lump it with the first two rather than the fourth one.
 
Fawfulthegreat64 said:
One thing I'll never understand is why Super Paper Mario is constantly lumped with Sticker Star as "the bad ones." Sticker Star was only bad because it lacked new characters, previous PM cameos and a deeper plot. The gameplay was solid in all four games IMO.

Super Paper Mario had all that, and thus I'd lump it with the first two rather than the fourth one.
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Because people asked for a story driven RPG with a charming world populated with charming characters.
 
Not holding my hopes up. PM and TTYD were absolutely amazing, but while SPM was also good it really missed the turn-based elements and Sticker Star was simply a disappointment not because it's a "bad game" but because it's a Paper Mario Lite released five years after SPM.
There's a new Paper Mario rumor every other week so whatever.
 
Fawfulthegreat64 said:
Super Paper Mario had all that, and thus I'd lump it with the first two rather than the fourth one.
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I thought that game was a boring abomination back then, and I think it's a boring abomination now. It was slow, it had limited, mediocre and linear gameplay, it had endless dialogue... erk.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Speculation about new Nintendo game, people throw out ideas, it's ANOTHER Mario game, a series that hasn't had a good entry in a decade, don't know when we'll find out any details which is bad cuz Nintendo fans are so thirsty they're stalking Retro Studios HQ

Perfect recipe for pessimism
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Cool. Gaf is filled with cool people.
 
dampflokfreund said:
If you want to.

Instead of a ambitious 3D Mario game, we get a sequel to a handheld game with multiplayer. Which was a good game, but nothing exciting for me like the previous games.

Instead of a new Metroid Prime, we got Tropical Freeze ( I love, love this game, but there is no denying its much less ambitious and costly than a new Metroid Prime, though I'm happy we got it)

Nintendo also showed at E3 2015 that they have no interest in the Wii U anymore.

Instead of a true remake of Twilight Princess, we get a port which has only improved textures.

I feel like Xenoblade, Smash and Mario Kart are the only AAA game on this console.

But honestly, I can't blame them for going this route. Wii U sells like dogpoop. So this is why I want the new projects on NX instead of Wii U because they can start over again.

Like the other guy said, originality on new Nintendo games is significantly lacking. That begins with 3D World and ends with Mario&Luigi Paper Jam Bros

This is my opinion, if you think the Wii U is awesome and has tons of great games, that's up to you. There is just one fact: It sells bad. Deserved.

However, if the Wii U does get a proper Paper Mario, and I mean proper, then I will be very happy to wipe off the dusk on the console and play it.
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So you're basically in your feelings because the newest installments of some of Nintendo's IPs didn't play out like you wanted them to.
dampflokfreund said:
Mario RPG series before Sticker Star have nothing in common with your average standard Mario game. They have personality, charme, story and a different gameplay mechanic.
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Its still Mario. And we all know why they chose make a new rpg with Mario and the gang instead of a new IP.
 
BY2K said:
It barely had a story and any RPG element.
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It may have had too much story. It had long periods of just characters talking. That was actually one of the reasons Sticker Star has far less dialog.

dampflokfreund said:
Mario RPG series before Sticker Star have nothing in common with your average standard Mario game. They have personality, charme, story and a different gameplay mechanic.
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This isn't necessarily true. Paper Mario has always had platforming segments, and the art style of the game was basically just Mario World + Yoshi's Island, up until Sticker Star.

But yea, Paper Mario isn't just "another Mario game" since it's an entirely different universe with an entirely different cast of characters, besides the actual species of the characters. And even with that, things are flexible, as new species are always in PM (except SS).
 
the two actual paper mario games are two of my favorite games ever and I have literally 0 hype for this until I have a reason to think otherwise

kinda sad really
 
rickyson1 said:
the two actual paper mario games are two of my favorite games ever and I have literally 0 hype for this until I have a reason to think otherwise

kinda sad really
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I know I shouldn't, but any time I hear "new Paper Mario", I always get hyped that they're finally going to make Paper Mario 3.
 
RagnarokX said:
They used the themes for the sake of visual variety. They put more effort into the maps than they needed to. The only purpose of the maps is to make level selection more interesting.
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Well designed world maps should instill a sense of journey, progress, and adventure. See DKC2 and SMW as examples. Even within a single world, SMB3 accomplished this goal (getting to the pyramid in world 2, for example, or the puzzle of the pipe world).
 
NDP_Mulcair said:
Mario 64, Mario Galaxy and Mario Sunshine from EAD had such unique and fantastic overworlds. I was in love with their hub worlds.

And then from that we got Mario 3D World which had such a disappointing, boring overworld with the same boring classic themes (except that lovely carnival world!)

We know what the Mario teams are capable with if they put their mind to it with overworlds, but they hold back. It's a weird tinge of laziness in a game oozing with style and creative levels.

That was a really weird dichotomy from me, and a major step back from EAD Tokyo's history in that regard. Same with 3D Land and 3D World's decision to make you grab a flagpole under a time limit or the lack of any story besides the usual 10-second one. A rather minor case of NSMBification, sure, but one that's still present in a small way.

But I know other Mario titles have had a much more severe case of NSMBification, like Sticker Star.
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This just sounds like you whining that you didn't get what you wanted from 3D World. Sorry, mate. Some of us consider it one of the best Mario games created. Just because it lacks a portion of what you enjoyed about a previous entry does not make the devteam lazy in that they didn't have the time, energy or passion to do it. It just means they didn't do it.
 
Fawfulthegreat64 said:
One thing I'll never understand is why Super Paper Mario is constantly lumped with Sticker Star as "the bad ones." Sticker Star was only bad because it lacked new characters, previous PM cameos and a deeper plot. The gameplay was solid in all four games IMO.

Super Paper Mario had all that, and thus I'd lump it with the first two rather than the fourth one.
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I never understood calling even Sticker Star "a bad one".

Even the worst paper mario is still a fun game. Being dissapointing does not mean being a BAD game
 
dampflokfreund said:
If you want to.

Instead of a ambitious 3D Mario game, we get a sequel to a handheld game with multiplayer. Which was a good game, but nothing exciting for me like the previous games.

Instead of a new Metroid Prime, we got Tropical Freeze ( I love, love this game, but there is no denying its much less ambitious and costly than a new Metroid Prime, though I'm happy we got it)

Nintendo also showed at E3 2015 that they have no interest in the Wii U anymore.

Instead of a true remake of Twilight Princess, we get a port which has only improved textures.

I feel like Xenoblade, Smash and Mario Kart are the only AAA game on this console.

But honestly, I can't blame them for going this route. Wii U sells like dogpoop. So this is why I want the new projects on NX instead of Wii U because they can start over again.

Like the other guy said, originality on new Nintendo games is significantly lacking. That begins with 3D World and ends with Mario&Luigi Paper Jam Bros

This is my opinion, if you think the Wii U is awesome and has tons of great games, that'sA up to you. There is just one fact: It sells bad. Deserved.

However, if the Wii U does get a proper Paper Mario, and I mean proper, then I will be very happy to wipe off the dusk on the console and play it.
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You know, Wii U (and 3DS/Wii/DS) is not the right system to get if you want to play the latest AAA games,but intented to be something to diversify your game library.
Now, of course it sells bad, but that goes beyond the lack of AAA or quality games for the system, unfortunately
Edit : at least you are on the NX train!
 
i haven't read this thread or played a paper mario game but i just wnt you to know that new super mario is terrible in literally every way
 
Fawfulthegreat64 said:
One thing I'll never understand is why Super Paper Mario is constantly lumped with Sticker Star as "the bad ones." Sticker Star was only bad because it lacked new characters, previous PM cameos and a deeper plot. The gameplay was solid in all four games IMO.

Super Paper Mario had all that, and thus I'd lump it with the first two rather than the fourth one.
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Sticker stars gameplay was god awful.
 
So in Super Paper Mario:

- One chapter is set in an otaku's house filled with robot cat maidos
- One chapter is pretty much The Divine Comedy
- One chapter boss is the spider-head monster from The Thing
- Mr. L

I can understand people being disappointed that it's not an RPG, but the game is glorious.
 
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