Fire Emblem Fates' localization doesn't have the petting minigame

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do nintendo think they're gonna gain customers by removing features? you're making some of your customers pissed for those choices but you're not gaining many of them because "oh they removed that thing, NOW i'm really interested in this game!"
meh
 
People found the confession scenes creepy? I thought they were cute.

It's Animu bro, that shit's creepy as fuck.

not really, but yeah...

do nintendo think they're gonna gain customers by removing features? you're making some of your customers pissed for those choices but you're not gaining many of them because "oh they removed that thing, NOW i'm really interested in this game!"
meh

Go trough this thread, multiple people have been doing just that
 
Well they're not going to make a distinction between a humanoid and an animal. That wouldn't be worth the effort.

Would you think petting a Pikachu or Meowth is weird?

petting mechanic in pokemon is less restrictive than FE fates, Fates was restricted to the face, in pokemon you can touch anything. (at least in the front of the pokemon, as i dont think you can turn the camera) I would think touching an electric rat would be weird. Meowth is basically a cat so i'd pet its ears.
 
What is so creepy about it? I really dont get that. It was just something silly. Like groping Jynx or giving Lucario a handjob.

if you don't think touching pokemon titty is weird well

Do you.

do nintendo think they're gonna gain customers by removing features? you're making some of your customers pissed for those choices but you're not gaining many of them because "oh they removed that thing, NOW i'm really interested in this game!"
meh

only people upset about this is confused image board posters who probably think the R. Mika thing is censorship

,meanwhile you have a lot of posters in this thread advocating to buy this game because the creepy shit is gone
 
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Eh, it's not that creepy.
 
It's not technically censorship, since there's no outside force absolutely forcing Nintendo to make this change. It's still their call at the end of the day and they could still push ahead with it if they want. President Obama isn't putting his hand on their shoulder and saying, "Nintendo, no."

But it's definitely a change made out of fear of controversy. What kind of controversy is debatable, but they know we're now in a time where trivial things can escalate very quickly on social media.
I see it more as the localization team assessing the tone of the franchise, looking at whether a petting minigame seemed to fit that tone, and making an honest judgement call that, uh, no, it doesn't.

Controversy may have been a concern, but they'd draw plenty of it by either decision, cutting it or keeping it. The path of least resistance for the localization team was probably to leave things as they were and not tell NOJ "Yo, this shit's dumb and you're kind of dumb to have put it here." The Amie content isn't questionable because it's exploring themes the audience might not be ready to handle, it's questionable because it clashes with the series' tone in a bad way; It's questionable because it's stupid.

I'm much more inclined to characterize its removal as a principled stand than an act of cowardice.
 
so to my understanding some things like dialogue and stat boosts are lost with this removal?

I couldn't give 2 shits about the actual minigame, but I hope they have a way of getting those original benefits in the game in a different manner. If they don't, then this is not a good thing in my eyes.

although I didn't have it in me to read the whole thread, maybe that's the case and if so, this isn't as big an issue.

(just quoting myself because I am too lazy to retype)
I'd like to bring something up in this conversation, in one of the english gameplay videos, there was an exclamation mark above the "private quarters" (the place in the hub you go to to change your hairstyle and go to the petting minigame.).

In the Japanese version, this exclamation mark only appeared when petting was available. (it can be used once per chapter or so).

So, my point is we're probably getting a replacement of some sort. (Or they left a bugged notification icon over it in the localization, but I hope not)

(I don't know why I use ellipses so much forgive me)

This is why I was fairly sure the feature was in unchanged until kotaku said otherwise lol
 
Stuff like this makes not purchasing the game really easy.

I don't even really understand how this happened. A lot of development work went into the models that are most prominently shown in this mode. Why even work on stuff like that if they're just going to remove it when they localize the game to markets that are actually bigger than Japan?
 
I see it more as the localization team assessing the tone of the franchise, looking at whether a petting minigame seemed to fit that tone, and making an honest judgement call that, uh, no, it doesn't.

Controversy may have been a concern, but they'd draw plenty of it by either decision, cutting it or keeping it. The path of least resistance for the localization team was probably to leave things as they were and not tell NOJ "Yo, this shit's dumb and you're kind of dumb to have put it here." The Amie content isn't questionable because it's exploring themes the audience might not be ready to handle, it's questionable because it clashes with the series' tone in a bad way; It's questionable because it's stupid.

I'm much more inclined to characterize its removal as a principled stand than an act of cowardice.

We aren't talking about FE4, man. We're talking about a game that thrives on goofy anime bullshit. Face petting doesn't contrast the tone of the game in a big way because it's not a game about the horrors and consequences of war.
 
It's Animu bro, that shit's creepy as fuck.

not really, but yeah...
Honestly? People who are into anime can have a higher tolerance for stuff that may be weird for most people. That's not a judgemental statement, it's how things are from my perspective.
 
If you don't hate the scenes then you are a creepy anime weeb.

/s am I doing this right

It's Animu bro, that shit's creepy as fuck.

not really, but yeah...
;~;

Remember that video I linked to you of Matt Mercer in one of these threads?

oh yeah, didn't he say that he found the confession dialogue for chrom uncomfortable?

I still don't see anything in that dialogue to be uncomfortable about. Its not even grocery store romance book level dialogue bad.
 
Stuff like this makes not purchasing the game really easy.

I don't even really understand how this happened. A lot of development work went into the models that are most prominently shown in this mode. Why even work on stuff like that if they're just going to remove it when they localize the game to markets that are actually bigger than Japan?

those markets bigger than japan have different tastes

this isn't some shitty XSEED or Marvelous RPG being 'localized' this is a Nintendo game; meaning they're aiming to target this game -- like everything else -- to the general consumer, not some hardcore gaming aficionado. This is what NoA has been doing since forever.
 
do nintendo think they're gonna gain customers by removing features? you're making some of your customers pissed for those choices but you're not gaining many of them because "oh they removed that thing, NOW i'm really interested in this game!"
meh

Do you really think that most of the people who bought Awakening and plan on buying this even know that this feature exists? Gamers on average are not all that informed. The portion that even go as far as reading a mainstream gaming website like IGN with any regularly are in the minority.

Everyone on this forum should have had enough NPD month disappointments by now to realize that GAF is not reflective of gaming in general. Even with regards to more niche game genres.
 
those markets bigger than japan have different tastes

this isn't some shitty XSEED or Marvelous RPG being 'localized' this is a Nintendo game; meaning they're aiming to target this game -- like everything else -- to the general consumer, not some hardcore gaming aficionado. This is what NoA has been doing since forever.

They better put these games on phones or PS4/XB1/PC and change the artstyle if they want the mainstream market, more blood too.
 
I see it more as the localization team assessing the tone of the franchise, looking at whether a petting minigame seemed to fit that tone, and making an honest judgement call that, uh, no, it doesn't.

I don't think the localization team that had nothing to do with the creation of the game should have the right to make judgments about the tone of the franchise.
 
Great. Next, please cut all that horrible waifu stuff out of the game.
 
Man, I'm really torn on this one.

On the one hand, this was an absolute bullshit feature that should never have been implemented, lowers the tone of Fire Emblem even further, and would have made the game worse. From that perspective I'm delighted it's gone.

But on the other hand... I don't KNOW that it was a bad feature, and I'll never have the chance to try out the creator's original vision. I always prefer to get the 'authentic experience', and while I know all games are localised and I support that most don't have large features like this stripped out of them - that feels like going too far to me.

And also, I know for a fact that there were many people looking forward to this mode as much as I was dreading it, and I'm not sure I'm okay with Nintendo cutting it to prevent any scandals in advance.

I think the only thing I can say for sure is that I wish it had never existed. Yeah. And that Fire Emblem had never gone down this animu trope bullshit road in the first place. The Gamecube and Wii games were so damn good from a story perspective.
 
They better put this games on phones or PS4/XB1/PC and change the artstyle if they want the mainstream market, more blood too.

You laugh, but FE:A in the west alone did around 300K which is very impressive for the game Fire Emblem is, or rather was (a dead SRPG series on platforms no one cared about)

It's the best selling Fire Emblem title in the west. Nintendo wants more people who have never touched a FE game to play this than the same old guard, at least in the West.
 
those markets bigger than japan have different tastes

this isn't some shitty XSEED or Marvelous RPG being 'localized' this is a Nintendo game; meaning they're aiming to target this game -- like everything else -- to the general consumer, not some hardcore gaming aficionado. This is what NoA has been doing since forever.

Yeah, exactly. How is this change to affect that audience's perception of this game? It's still fairly not well written animu garbage where you can marry 1000 year old dragon girls. Removing goofy ass face petting isn't going to make or break this game's western acceptance in any significant way when it is japanese at its very core.
 
actually the reason I'm sad it's gone

they can just remove the petting but keep everything as a model viewer or something
Yeah, it'd be great if they at least keep a model viewer so we can appreciate the character models/animations. I don't need to touch them or talk to them, but I still want to see these models/animations they invested so much time and money in making. Kozaki's art looks awesome there.

The only alternative are the S-rank conversations, and those can't be revisited. So Nintendo... Please, add a model viewer!
 
I get it, lol, just wish there were a better way to make an anagram.

Honestly, I don't get why they change so many names in localization to begin with. Nothing was wrong with Sallya. At least it's not as confusing as some on the changes in Awakening/Fates. Like Xander changed to Marx. Why?
 
I like 1:1 localizations and I'd prefer if the petting just wouldn't have been in the game to begin with. But since it does exist, I'm concerned about the content that was originally locked behind it. I'm cool with the means to getting the content changing (though I find the petting pretty inoffensive and just weird, but to each their own), but I really hope Nintendo doesn't get lazy and removes all the related content wholesale.
 
Yeah, exactly. How is this change to affect that audience's perception of this game? It's still fairly not well written animu garbage where you can marry 1000 year old dragon girls. Removing goofy ass face petting isn't going to make or break this game's western acceptance in any significant way when it is japanese at its very core.

The idea that Nintendo is going to lose a significant amount of sales for getting rid of creepy shit is mostly parroted by the same 'hardcore' image board gaming weirdos
 
those markets bigger than japan have different tastes

this isn't some shitty XSEED or Marvelous RPG being 'localized' this is a Nintendo game; meaning they're aiming to target this game -- like everything else -- to the general consumer, not some hardcore gaming aficionado. This is what NoA has been doing since forever.
Nintendo's attempts to cater to markets other than Japan are Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. What a success. Removing flavor from your game in some attempt to mass market it is absurd in this day and age. Considering the positive response in all markets to the character bonding in Awakening it seems pretty dumb to remove anything associated with that on the next FE release. If Nintendo has no respect for me as a consumer I'm not going to buy their games.
 
oh yeah, didn't he say that he found the confession dialogue for chrom uncomfortable?

I still don't see anything in that dialogue to be uncomfortable about. Its not even grocery store romance book level dialogue bad.

If I'm thinking of the same video, wasn't Matt saying it was uncomfortable because the director told Matt to look into his eyes while reading the entire thing?
 
The only alternative are the S-rank conversations, and those can't be revisited. So Nintendo... Please, add a model viewer!
???

Does this game disposes of the Support Log from Fire Emblem: Awakening where you can check all the Supports convos you have experienced across all the saves?

Great. Next, please cut all that horrible waifu stuff out of the game.
They could remove children since those have been VERY optional but Supports are a staple of the series, they are not going to get rid of THAT.
 
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