DonMigs85
Member
Heck, even Uplay and I think Origin allow for an FPS counter and changing the installation directory at least, plus overlays.
Rise of the Tomb Raider in the Ukrainian Windows Store: 234UAH (~9,11USD)
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panthapanda
Member
Almost bought this but Civ 5 has been dominating my time right now on PC so I'll just wait for PS4.
Wowfunhappy
Member
It did that to me to, just ignore it. It's downloaded somewhere above 5 gb out of the needed 26. It may show yiu the correct amount again at some point, it may not.
Bloody_Five
Banned
To the people complaining about taking advantage of the low price point in another poorer country.
Do you realize that companies do exactly the same with more serious consequences?
Rather than paying a textile worker in the US or Europe they take advantage of a low price point in China or Bangladesh.
Rather than paying US or Euro taxes, they have billions that evade your government and don't go to funding schools or infrastructure thanks to offshore tax havens.
Even game companies outsource a lot of asset creation in cheaper countries.
The best solution would be for everyone to play fair or to have worlwide regulation to force people to.
Until then, I will take advantage of globalization at my puny consumer level like these companies do. The door swings both ways.
Do you realize that companies do exactly the same with more serious consequences?
Rather than paying a textile worker in the US or Europe they take advantage of a low price point in China or Bangladesh.
Rather than paying US or Euro taxes, they have billions that evade your government and don't go to funding schools or infrastructure thanks to offshore tax havens.
Even game companies outsource a lot of asset creation in cheaper countries.
The best solution would be for everyone to play fair or to have worlwide regulation to force people to.
Until then, I will take advantage of globalization at my puny consumer level like these companies do. The door swings both ways.
That's pretty terrible for companies to do. Why would I want to be like them?
texhnolyze
Banned
What will happen if you revert back to your region after purchasing?
Does the game still accessible/playable then?
Nvm, found my answer on the 4th page or so.
Does the game still accessible/playable then?
Nvm, found my answer on the 4th page or so.
And thank god for that.
Current tech trends in software are fucking awful and centered around appealing to the lowest common denominator above all else.
JohnnyWestlake
Banned
As someone who's spent more than my fair share of time removing malware and other ridiculous rubbish infecting computers of family & friends and others, I can appreciate having a nice sandboxed app store on Windows as the "easiest" way of getting software - and for those of us who know not to just go about running every exe we see on an email, we still have the option of Win32 apps. Because there are a lot, lot *LOT* more people out there who don't really know what they're doing.
At ~£6.31, I've gone for this, even if my Alienware Alpha probably won't play it as nicely as my Xbox One would at 900p. More Amiibo funds
I'm using an AMD GPU unfortunately, so no Nvidia Inspector for me. Suppose I could try similar programs for AMD cards, but when not even the Global driver settings make a single dent in it, it's kind of weird. Tried the bat/exe converter to set up a profile as well, no dice.
Hell launching the bat-exe through Steam opens the game without audio :lol. Ah Microsoft. At least they guaranteed Square Enix some more money because I'll most likely double-dip in the future to get a less walled off version of the game.
That's a good point, when you're actually worse than Ubisoft and EA you have to take a step back :lol. I wonder what Valve will do on SteamOS if it gains traction, they haven't exactly looked their best pro-consumer wise lately.
Thank you for creating the thread! 
Considering the game's very low price, I also got the Baba Yaga DLC to show a bit more support.
So far this runs beautifully on my 670 (maxxed out at 900p). The lack of a real fullscreen mode is unfortunate, though.
Add that to the other Windows App setbacks (no FRAPS, no Steam controller, etc) and it's quite clear this is not the best option for gaming enthusiasts with specific needs.
Another issue I have is that the App will only launch if I was at least connected once to the Internet after any reboot (I can only get my standard/stable connection in another room, so I'm 99% offline), otherwise it will go back to Desktop with no message at all to help me understand what went wrong. Good thing phones can act as WiFi hotspots.
So it comes with its fair share of oddities I have not experienced before, which doesn't make Windows Store AAA games practical to use. :/
Still, getting to play the game at such a low price shortly after release is good enough for me to consider it a cool exception!
Considering the game's very low price, I also got the Baba Yaga DLC to show a bit more support.
So far this runs beautifully on my 670 (maxxed out at 900p). The lack of a real fullscreen mode is unfortunate, though.
Add that to the other Windows App setbacks (no FRAPS, no Steam controller, etc) and it's quite clear this is not the best option for gaming enthusiasts with specific needs.
Another issue I have is that the App will only launch if I was at least connected once to the Internet after any reboot (I can only get my standard/stable connection in another room, so I'm 99% offline), otherwise it will go back to Desktop with no message at all to help me understand what went wrong. Good thing phones can act as WiFi hotspots.
So it comes with its fair share of oddities I have not experienced before, which doesn't make Windows Store AAA games practical to use. :/
Still, getting to play the game at such a low price shortly after release is good enough for me to consider it a cool exception!
Thank you for creating the thread!
Considering the game's very low price, I also got the Baba Yaga DLC to show a bit more support.
So far this runs beautifully on my 670 (maxxed out at 900p). The lack of a real fullscreen mode is unfortunate, though.
Add that to the other Windows App setbacks (no FRAPS, no Steam controller, etc) and it's quite clear this is not the best option for gaming enthusiasts with specific needs.
Another issue I have is that the App will only launch if I was at least connected once to the Internet after any reboot (I can only get my standard/stable connection in another room, so I'm 99% offline), otherwise it will go back to Desktop with no message at all to help me understand what went wrong. Good thing phones can act as WiFi hotspots.
So it comes with its fair share of oddities I have not experienced before, which doesn't make Windows Store AAA games practical to use. :/
Still, getting to play the game at such a low price shortly after release is good enough for me to consider it a cool exception!
Make a desktop profile in big picture mode setup for FPS with the Steam Controller and you're good to go.
Exactly this. I do think this was a mistake though. Unless they are looking to implement a more mobile style of transaction in the developing regions and sell base games for next to nothing with the hope of profiting from DLC sales later.
The fact that Baba Yaga costs the same as the main game just doesn't make sense.
Negotiator
Banned
Worldwide regulation would require a global government to enforce it everywhere. I agree with your post, though.
Actually you can change the installation directory in Windows 10 or at least in which drive or partition you want the apps to go. It's in Settings-->System---->Storage.
I really hope MS allows FPS counters and overlays some day.
This is a lot of words to basically explain why your being cheap as hell.
Look, I don't really care about taking advantage of market prices, I don't do it myself but it's whatever.
But Crystal Dynamics released a fully working, great port of a great game (that is available on steam) they put their backbone into, and any shitty justification you wanna use to explain yourself just comes off as even cheaper.
You saw the game at a low price, don't want to pay full price for the product, maybe you don't have the money right now, and then decided to get the game.
Still, at least your reasoning is somewhat more acceptable than most of the posts in here.
TriAceJP
Member
Simultaneous installs.
Soren01
Member
Yep. Remove old devices is easy.
http://www.windowscentral.com/how-remove-devices-your-windows-10-store-allowance
No it doesn't work like SecuROM. I think it just works on a windows license key basis.
Crystal Dynamics didn't develop this port, it was outsourced like most AAA console to PC ports are these days.
They developed the game, so the point still stands.
If anything, that adds another layer of people who did a great job that somehow don't deserve a full priced purchase. Or hell, even a half off purchase.
It's a 60 dollar game that's now 85% off, basically.
I don't care if your being a cheap ass gamer, but just come out and say it. Embrace it. Don't write a long post blaming the global market for your own cheapness
Well I speak as someone who is massively against the idea of regional pricing so if that makes me a cheap ass in your opinion then I'm OK with that. Certain stores like GOG try to sweeten the deal by offering incentives to users who pay the US/UK/EU/CA/AU price and I respect them for that but the fact remains that it is still a question of economies of scale and forcing some users to pay massively higher prices because of where they live.
And the chances are that most people who have gone for a deal like this wouldn't have paid the full price, even from Steam. They would have either waited for a sale or bought a cheap key from an unauthorised source. In the latter event, Crystal Dynamics and Square Enix would receive even less commission than they would from these $9 sales on the Windows Store.
First, yes that logic is very faulty. No every person who buys this was gonna buy it at full price, but by that very same logic there's people who would have payed full price and saw an amazing deal and decided not to.
Secondly, don't care about your personal feeling on regional pricing. If you have the money to pay in your country and willingly choose not to, your being cheap and finding a way to explain it.
Again, I can accept being broke and wanting to play the game, it's not right but I've been there before myself.
I can also accept being in a country where the prices for games is ridiculous, which kinda builds off the not able to afford part.
OK, well look at this from a different perspective then.
One of the cheapest countries for digital games and a huge source for grey PC game keys is the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation has a lower average income than most western nations but also has a higher number of millionaires than the likes of Canada, Australia and most European countries at the same time.
Most games cost $60 in the US or £45 in the UK. If someone who works in a McDonalds is the US for minimum wage wants to buy a new game from Steam then they are probably going to need to fork out that $60. Under the current regional pricing system, a millionaire Oligarch in Moscow could buy the same game at a fraction of the price.
If you honestly think that is fair and justifiable then I don't know what to tell you. Unfortunately your argument also misses out the unfortunate number of people who might also have just waited for a pirated version if they couldn't get the game for around this price and under that scenario the publisher wouldn't have earned anything.
As I said in my previous post, if you consider me cheap then that's OK. I prefer to just believe that I'm cautious with my money rather than cheap but there you go.
Expecting fair in reality is a recipe for dissapointment.
For every negative you list that comes out of regional pricing, I'm sure there are several people more studied in the subject than I am that can list a reason for its continued existence.
Secondly, your point misses out on a big problem:
Everybody here has the ability to change the market price to whatever they want, so hypothetically you could change it to whatever, including a price that lines up with what you expect from a AAA release.
But that's not what's happening.
Millionaire Russians paying pennies for a game we have to pay 60 for is wrong, but gamers who can afford it paying 9 fucking bucks for a brand new game is.....not wrong?
Yeah, ok.
And trust me, Im a broke ass college student living in the most expensive state in my country, so I get money troubles.
But as an artist, paying jack shit for something people put their blood, sweat, and tears into because I don't agree with the price is even worse.
So I scrapped together 60 from my own minimum wage ass job, and bought it.
And which country is that if you don't mind me asking?
I only ask because most of the people who I have seen taking a strong objection to this sort of thing in the past have been those who might be directly impacted by it e.g. Russians, Indians, Ukranians etc. They are understandably worried that prices in their own regions will go up like what happened with India and Origin.
CastleRybread
Member
Change your region back. At least that's what the people at slickdeals recommended to get faster downloads.
Negotiator
Banned
You make it sound like people who paid $9 for RoTR are pirates/thieves, even though they're not.
Sustainable AAA game development needs economies of scale. There are 7 billion people on this planet. Just imagine if we had 1 billion gamers and half of them bought RoTR for $9. That's 4.5 billion dollars.
Much better than selling 1 million copies at $60 each, isn't it?
Gaming needs to become as mainstream as movies are. It shouldn't be a niche entertainment medium.
Exactly. People act like it's the developer who really suffer from something like this but it isn't, it's the publisher. The publisher take the lion's share of the profits and are also likely the ones who insisted that a single player only game like this one included micro transactions and extremely overpriced DLC, even in the developing markets.
Let's not forget why cheaper regional pricing was introduced in the games market. It was largely to combat high numbers of piracy in the likes of China, Russia and Brazil. It ignored the fact that the top 10 sources of software piracy on any given year will almost always include the US and at least 3 or 4 EU member states.
If you release a solid product and at the right price then people will buy it and Square Enix really haven't done themselves any favours with this game. The Xbox version released on the same day as Fallout 4 and the PC version released when Ubisoft hype for The Division was in full swing and 1 week before the launch of XCOM 2.
I'm not going to pay 60$ for a game when I can get it easily for 10$. It's not about being cheap it's about simple economics.
Last time I checked being an informed consumer isn't really a negative.
It is worth noting that regional pricing is not done out of generosity or charity towards poorer countries, it is done out of seeking to maximise revenue.
There's plenty of instances where certain countries have higher prices than other similar countries just because that is the price the market will bare. Australia and many places in Europe are often charged higher prices than the U.S., despite consumers typically having less or similar disposable income in real terms. Because price expectations inherited from physical games have been passed on to digital games.
There's plenty of instances where certain countries have higher prices than other similar countries just because that is the price the market will bare. Australia and many places in Europe are often charged higher prices than the U.S., despite consumers typically having less or similar disposable income in real terms. Because price expectations inherited from physical games have been passed on to digital games.
This.
Japan is still the perfect living example as well. The likes of Uncharted, Halo or Arkham Knight will have a much lower RRP then in the west but you can expect to pay $100+ for a standard copy of the latest Final Fantasy.
SenkiDala
Member
Yes... And it's pretty ridiculous. I mean when you go for exemple for a trip in Japan: you buy a lot of stuff, a lot in duty free shop, you can even buy an iPad etc for cheaper than in Europe (I bought an iPod touch half the price than the ones sold in France), and it's even "worst" when you go in counitres like Indonesia, Thailand, etc where everything is so cheap, so what, you shouldn't buy because "oh it's unfair"?! That's stupid.
And when European people order US games because they don't want wait an European release, or US person order a Japanese game for the same reason, it's that bad?
Seriously... Ok it's 9$ but we BOUGHT the game, Microsoft have all the autority and ability to close those foreigners online shops to other countries, but they don't.
It's like when I see people complaining that now so many people wait to buy a game on sale because if you buy a game on sale you don't give as much money to the dev that you would give if you buy it at the full price. I mean...
Wowfunhappy
Member
While I doubt that it was literally done on purpose, I'm sure that Microsoft isn't overly upset. They have far more to gain than lose in this situation.
The people who should be angry here is Square Enix.
We'll only have that option as long as it costs MS more to drop it than to maintain it. Particularly in consumer versions of Windows.
Is this supposed to be a joke post?
oh no, my game isn't compatible with fraps! how could i ever play a game without FPS counter
Is this supposed to be a joke post?
oh no, my game isn't compatible with fraps! how could i ever play a game without FPS counter
Is this supposed to be a joke post? How dare people care about options and their preferred external software to run alongside a game!
you're getting a $60 game for $10
i was a bit annoyed that there's no true fullscreen or it doesn't work with shadowplay, but then I remembered I got a game for 1/6th it's regular price.
People who get it the legitimate way on their own region's MS Store without exploiting financially disadvantaged regions also lack those features though.
