They haven't done it yet and we're already giving them reasons not to, lol
Microsoft Releasing Exclusive Games on PC Is Great for Xbox Owners
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They haven't done it yet and we're already giving them reasons not to, lol
Discotheque
Banned
Nah those still seem really protected. PC is only getting the remastered first gears game. Not the whole trilogy
Pc never got the halo collection either.
Really happy about this quantum break news. One of my most anticipated games of the year even tho I didn't have an xbox one. Was thinking I'd have to wait years to play it like Alan wake
Ol No Bones
Banned
They said their Win10/Xbox platform supports cross buy but that it is up to the publishers if they do it. QB is published by MS, if it does release on PC day one I see no reason that they would not have cross buy.
Microsoft as a whole has been on a shift to a service company with emphasis on having their services and products available on many devices. To me this is just a natural part of that shift.
I don't think it suggests they won't release another Xbox. It just suggests that that next Xbox is just going to basically be a PC. They absolutely will not give up presence in the TV market.
Omnii-chan
Member
If gamers have a capable PC and the games come to it, why would they buy an Xbox?
I bought one because I thought it was the only place I'd be able to play Dead Rising 3, so I had it for exclusives. Now it isn't exclusive, along with every other game I cared about which is coming out. So I have no reason to own it.
I sold mine because most of the games I cared about on the system are coming to PC, like Quantum Break and Inside. I wasn't going to keep it just for Forza.
I bought one because I thought it was the only place I'd be able to play Dead Rising 3, so I had it for exclusives. Now it isn't exclusive, along with every other game I cared about which is coming out. So I have no reason to own it.
I sold mine because most of the games I cared about on the system are coming to PC, like Quantum Break and Inside. I wasn't going to keep it just for Forza.
mejin
Member
That's all I'm asking.
Blue Ninja
Member
This is an enthousiast forum which is currently leaning heavily towards Sony. Of course a lot of the posters here would ditch their Xbox One in a heartbeat if they could. A lot of people still prefer consoles over PC because they're plug-and-play and they're used to them.
The fact is, the Xbox One already isn't selling very well when compared to its competition. Having their software reach a wider audience probably seems like a good deal for Microsoft at this point. It seems likely to me that if Microsoft was pulling the numbers Sony is at this moment, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Yeah, if MS themselves don't do crossbuy with this game, no one else is going to. lol. They might as well remove that as a feature because people will just get pissed every time it isnt there.
Ol No Bones
Banned
It has been pointed out already that Sony games are now releasing on PC. So obviously there is some wisdom in doing so (because Sony does it of course).
Hard to argue this tbh.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
It's not a bad thing for gamers overall, but for PC gamers there is almost no incentive to have the One.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
Microsoft Makes money off every PC sold in some way. Why would it benefit Sony to be on an Microsoft owned platform. Windows 10 is very much linked with XBOX. it feels to be built into the whole OS. You dont have to use it if you dont want to, but if you do it's great. I can see whos online etc and view videos amongst other things. The xbox feels like it links with my windows PC nicely. I like it. I think it makes more sense for MS to do this than the others to be honest.
MS's key xbox gaming franchises are still exclusive to that console. Remedy has always released its big games on PC. hell max payne started as a pc game. It's in their studios history.
Most of my friends are hardcore PC gamers and trust me they have no desire,outside of the wii u (for a couple,) to own any console.
Solrac
Member
sorry but im not that kind of guy/console player
Ol No Bones
Banned
If they don't shame on them but I would like to think their own titles would have their new feature especially considering that they need to push people on the Win10 store if they have any chance of it being relevant in the PC gaming space.
If there is crossbuy, the ability to play a game you purchased at both your desk and your TV with sync'd state seems like a good incentive to me.
I don't understand people saying it's a good thing, it's definitely not, what's the point to have a Xbox One if all their games are on PC ? the point to have a console is their exclusive titles, if they aren't, buying one is useless, just get a PS4/PC and the problem is solved.
I think it's a good business for Microsoft as a all but not for Xbox owners.
I think it's a good business for Microsoft as a all but not for Xbox owners.
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
I don't agree with you, OP.
Now there are even less reasons to buy an xbox instead of a PC.
I have a great PC, why should I buy an xbox one?
Now there are even less reasons to buy an xbox instead of a PC.
I have a great PC, why should I buy an xbox one?
Lanrutcon
Member
But I already do that. It's already a thing that is done. People are doing it. You plug a cable into your PC, and into the screen. Then you do the same to your TV. And, as if by some dark forgotten magic, you get to play games on both.
tiredheadcrab
Member
Its a good long term win for MS and the Xbox ecosystem which is apart of Windows 10 now. I am good with it honestly. I have a gaming PC and an Xbox one and I dont feel like i regret my purchase. My friend just has an Xbox, and has little to no interest in ever building a PC gaming machine. He just wants an easy setup and go system. Consoles provide that. MS getting their exclusives on PC are still exclusives. They are mostly going to be sold only through Windows 10 most likely. RECore and Sea of Thieves probably wont be available on Steam and if they are you'll probably still need Windows 10 to play those games. They want you playing in a Windows ecosystem. Aslong as you are doing that MS doesnt care. More revenue for them.
So you're moving your PC around? Have multiple PCs?
ethomaz
Banned
This.
For PC users = Good
For Xbox One users = Not affect
For Xbox One = Bad
For MS = Good for the game sales but bad for Xbox One sales
It is bad for the Xbox One market.
The Xbone is outselling the 360. Its not selling poorly. The PS4 is just selling at a ridiculous pace, but the Xbone is not doing badly at all.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Xbox owners are still getting the game, so that's 'great'. It's less great for the hardware sales side of Microsoft as it's one less reason to pick up an Xbox One.
Sora the Cat
Member
People are less likely to buy the console if they already have a proper PC, so I guess that's a bad thing for the console. I know this is my case at least.
dancrane212
Member
And for the folk who own both a gaming PC and an Xbox One they can then play on the better platform for them. MS still gets the sale from the couple exclusives that said user would have bought on Xbox - not as if that user would likely buy multiplatform games on the system if all they got it for was exclusives.
Do you have the sales info to back that up? That a Microsoft game built on DX12, which they have said is the easiest it has ever been to port between PC and console, would somehow not justify being on Xbox One because the PC version sold better?
Again, how many non-MS games are those users buying on their Xbox right now? Does it make a difference if user Y buys 5 MS exclusives on PC or on an Xbox they never user otherwise?
Those millions of Xbox One owners aren't going to ditch their console and grab a PC. Games like GTA, Minecraft and the like (the biggest sellers on console) still do fantastic on the platform despite a better PC version existing.
Again, PC releases doesn't stop users from picking up GTA5 (did gang-busters on consoles this year), CoD, Minecraft on Xbox. I don't see first party releases being that different.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Again, people saying releasing there games will make the system less attractive. Let's be real, how many thousands of individuals are going to run out there and buy gaming PC's? A whole lot of assumption's, sure some may but a significant amount? Nah...another thing, MS probably wants to make these games sell as much as possible, they are shifting and trying to support both platforms. They have been basjes for years with not supporting PC. Looking at how this current gen has been going for them with the bumps they've had to overcome and still overcoming, its not really hard to put 2 n 2 together.
I am not going to run cables from my office to my living room. My wife certainly would have concerns about my desktop being in the living room as well, lol.
DustyVonEric
Member
Bloodborne alone won't move 40+ million consoles. I think he meant BB might have moved those few it sold. While knowing Persona's coming might move a few more. Naughty Dog games more still, etc. 3rd party games might ultimately bring you to the dance, but exclusive games and features may lead you to dance with one partner over another.
Exclusive games and features help give each console, including PC, its own flavor or identity. Personally, I want each console to bring something different to the table games-wise. Don't know how realistic financially that'll continue to be though for all parties involved.
I will say, one good I see from this for XboxOne owners is if it helps a game get funded because there's now an increased audience and more potential sales. Maybe that game gets made now? I don't know if or how significantly potential PC sales would move the needle on that, but it couldn't hurt.
Do you want your kids playing on your working machine?
Do you want to prepare extra space for a desktop pc in your houeshold?
Do you want an easy login for your kids without beeing afraid of youth protection?
Do you want to just game and use things like suspend and resume?
There are a lot of questions and answers about console vs. PC. This console generation is more about comfort, than high end graphics.
If you buy a console just for exclusives and think, this is a regular way - you´re against high quality games with a high budget. Times change...
Do you want to prepare extra space for a desktop pc in your houeshold?
Do you want an easy login for your kids without beeing afraid of youth protection?
Do you want to just game and use things like suspend and resume?
There are a lot of questions and answers about console vs. PC. This console generation is more about comfort, than high end graphics.
If you buy a console just for exclusives and think, this is a regular way - you´re against high quality games with a high budget. Times change...
The perfect resume.
For many PC gamers they have no intention of buying a Xbox or even a PS4. So now the developer will get a chance to make some extra cash. Its just the same as how many console gamers dont want a pc.. If a console fan wants to play this game his only option is to buy a xbox.
Sora the Cat
Member
Surely a few of them will.
ethomaz
Banned
That is something that happened due front loaded sales for Xbox One most because 360 have supply issues for the first year and EU sales started to get good after 2008 (third year).
The difference is ~2m at the same time frame and 360 will mostly pass Xbox One this year.
XB1 sales aren't really good anyway so it basically is for MS = Good for games sales and no change in XB1 sales.
I think MS has realized they aren't competitive outside of the US and UK and now decided to atleast have good software sales. Money is money, MS doesn't care if it's from a console or from PC since they see both as part of the Xbox division.
PetriP-TNT
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I wonder how big the mythical market segment of people who bought "XBone for exclusives" and already own a XBone grade gaming PC is.
For a freebie you can count in those who would have invested in a gaming PC instead if they would have known beforehand for sure that Xbox "exclusives" are also coming to PC on day 1.
For a freebie you can count in those who would have invested in a gaming PC instead if they would have known beforehand for sure that Xbox "exclusives" are also coming to PC on day 1.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
you know the main attractiveness of playing on pc isn't necessarily "power" for everyone
I would think for most people playing on pc gives them the ability to freely accommodate their specific "needs"
you don't have to buy a pc/update one with the most up to date hardware
you can easily buy an affordable premade tower for simple convenience
Ehm, there are more reasons for people buying a console instead of a PC than just games.
slavesnyder
Member
Clean and simple.
tiredheadcrab
Member
Yes a small number that wont make much of a difference in the end.
VolticArchangel
Member
Damn, this got me lol. While I agree that mental gymnastics do happen to get a game on a platform all the time, this game in particular needs attention.
Anyway, it would have been hard to believe (we still don't have official confirmation of the day 1 release though, maybe tomorrow or that Xbox event later this month) if Quantum Break didn't come to PC given Remedy's history on the platform, despite MSFT owning the IP this time. It would indeed be surprising if it's a simultaneous release though.
Also, going by a case by case basis, Alan Wake on PC sold close to the X360's version IIRC. They wouldn't mind a similar market share for this game too. So, they'll continue to release all their F2P titles on WIN10, with one or two big ones like this (GeOW UE and ironically, KI too) thrown in between and keep all the big hitters/platform sellers like Halo 5, GeOW 4, Forza 5/6, Forza Horizon 2/3, Crackdown 3, Scalebound, Battletoads etc full exclusive to Xbox One.
Discotheque
Banned
Wait I read on gamespot that gears 4 and scale bound are also confirmed for Pc?!
Wow bless up to Microsoft
Wow bless up to Microsoft
JayWood2010
Member
PC market and console market overlaps to a degree, but not majorly. Home consoles are a more main stream product than gaming PC's. When parents buy their kids something game related, they will be buying a console rather than a gaming PC in most cases. This is just a small example.
Console+PC is the future though. Whether that be PS+PC or XB+PC. I cant see Nintendo opting in just yet, but most PS exclusives anymore (Not first party) are PS+PC and Microsoft seems to be opting in for more of their ecosystem with XB+PC including some of their first party games as well.
its a good thing, though i do expect negativity shrouding these moves on forums regardless of what happens.
Console+PC is the future though. Whether that be PS+PC or XB+PC. I cant see Nintendo opting in just yet, but most PS exclusives anymore (Not first party) are PS+PC and Microsoft seems to be opting in for more of their ecosystem with XB+PC including some of their first party games as well.
its a good thing, though i do expect negativity shrouding these moves on forums regardless of what happens.
ethomaz
Banned
I agree... they are changing focus to have more profit from the game sales dropping some possible Xbox One sales.
The only issue is how the Xbox brand (the console business) will be affected in a long term but maybe MS doesn't care about a new generation of console or something like.
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
Is Microsoft throwing in the towel with the Xbox One?