Mediking
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Boom. That's it.
Microsoft Releasing Exclusive Games on PC Is Great for Xbox Owners
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Boom. That's it.
If it's the case, i'm selling my Xbox One and will buy the NX, do it Microsoft ! ...
dancrane212
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For sure, but it's not like MS is publishing games on PlayStation - they are still pushing hardware the same way I'm sure there are people out there who will pick up a PS4 when SF5 releases. I just don't see first party releases driving hardware the same way a Call of Duty or Battlefront does.
Of course some will. But I don't see Xbox drying up to the extent SimonM7 is suggesting because more people can buy MS titles on PC. Even if the Xbox Two is just a Windows PC with a streamlined OS (is that really that much different than what we have now?) that goes directly to the Windows 10 store Microsoft will still put an Xbox Console on store shelves.
Salty Hippo
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Posts like this one are so baffling to me. What exactly does MS lose if gamers with capable PCs don't buy their console? They would only be buying it for exclusives anyway since they can play the best version of every multiplat on PC. Allowing these gamers to play those exclusives without the need to buy a $300 box that MS makes zero money on is a win-win scenario for everyone involved. I don't understand how there are people who still don't see this.
Not until we have Halo 1-3 on Steam.
Sora the Cat
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IMO, It will prove that loosing exclusives to PC is hurting the xbox one potential sales. I do agree that this isn't a bad thing for the owners of the console though.
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
I think it's just a matter of time right now
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Adding to this thread: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/qu...n-confirmed/1100-6434694/?ftag=GSS-05-10aaa0b
Gears of War 4, ReCore, Scalebound, and Fable Legends are all coming to PC.
What does this add to the thread's discussion?
Edit: Though the new Quantum Break trailer still says "Xbox Exclusive", it has Windows 10 logo at the end.
Gears of War 4, ReCore, Scalebound, and Fable Legends are all coming to PC.
What does this add to the thread's discussion?
Edit: Though the new Quantum Break trailer still says "Xbox Exclusive", it has Windows 10 logo at the end.
Jonneh3003
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I don't think you quite understand what I'm saying. Third party games seem to be what are selling people on current gen systems. But which one do you choose when they both offer the same thing? The one that has more first party titles that appeal to you. That isn't to say every first party title will sell millions but its the main reason you pick one system over another. When most of Xbox One's exclusives are on PC that really deminishes the value of the system. There are few reasons to pick Xbox One over PS4 when its a weaker system and its library can be found elsewhere.
The Jackdog
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love how everyone thinks this is ms just giving up on xbox.
have you been paying attention to microsoft as a whole for the past few years?
the goal is to get you on windows, in any way possible. xbox one is one of those ways. id be shocked if the 360 isnt released as a 99 dollar windows 10 device soon that would function as a STB/steam-link like device.
getting you on windows and keeping you there is way more important than "beating sony". the console wars only exist on internet message boards.
have you been paying attention to microsoft as a whole for the past few years?
the goal is to get you on windows, in any way possible. xbox one is one of those ways. id be shocked if the 360 isnt released as a 99 dollar windows 10 device soon that would function as a STB/steam-link like device.
getting you on windows and keeping you there is way more important than "beating sony". the console wars only exist on internet message boards.
MutonCommander
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The people who want an Xbox will buy an Xbox anyway. Those who only buy a console for its exclusives while their main gaming device is a PC aren't going to invest in the console ecosystem anyway so the only thing Microsoft misses out on is the (probably miniscule) amount of money it makes from every console sale. I bet the next Xbox will just be a Windows 10 PC with a Big Picture Mode-style interface.
Edit: damn, beaten. Basically, what this guy says:
Edit: damn, beaten. Basically, what this guy says:
Strangelove77
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MS is basically saying "don't buy our console!" to tons of people. That's not good for Xbox.
It's always weird that the console warrior thing gets thrown around if someone is upset by this sort of thing. Spinning this into a positive is a thing PC gamers do because this is good for them and a thing console gamers do to kind of cope with it. There is no positive for the console only gamer. Budget and "more risks" are flimsy reasons that you'd never truly be able to prove occur.
It's always weird that the console warrior thing gets thrown around if someone is upset by this sort of thing. Spinning this into a positive is a thing PC gamers do because this is good for them and a thing console gamers do to kind of cope with it. There is no positive for the console only gamer. Budget and "more risks" are flimsy reasons that you'd never truly be able to prove occur.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Quantum Break is crossbuy (till April 4th)! What now, GAF?!
dancrane212
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I understand, titles like Bloodborne are great incentive for the many folk to get one system or the other I just don't see it as having as much pull as it used to (or appeared to). Either or like I said to DustyVonEric it's not like MS is publishing games on PlayStation. They are still "Xbox" games.
If they ever allow Xbox One users to play with PC users (very unlikely, but PS$ do it), then I would ditch my Xbox One and buy a mega-PC.
Though, the only thing that stops me from doing that currently is that all my friends play on Xbox One, and that's the most important thing for me.
Though, the only thing that stops me from doing that currently is that all my friends play on Xbox One, and that's the most important thing for me.
EchoChamber
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Sometimes I feel Microsoft actively wants to make me sell my xbox.
JayWood2010
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They already edited that line, it was a mistake by the writer. This is what it says now.
Quantum Break's PC edition is the latest in Microsoft's wider push to expand its games across console and PC. Games currently in development for both platforms includes ReCore, Sea of Thieves and Fable Legends.
And Quantum Break is confirmed PC, so there is no more speculation on that.
GeordieMark
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Counting posts on GAF to prove or disprove anything is a waste of time. Its irrelevant.
I very much doubt most people who buy a console even consider a PC as an option. They are two different markets. The majority of games already come to both, and yet consoles still sell extremely well. Bloodborne is not the only reason people buy a PS4.
Microsoft are less concerned with the Xbox One as a device as they are with the Xbox platform. Ultimately, they will probably want to get to a point where Xbox games can be played across multiple devices, of which the console will be just one of a few options. This is what they have been working towards with Win 10. The traditional console model just isn't going to cut it in the future and they know this.
Sell it then. They won't care if you keep buying the Microsoft published games on your Win 10 PC.
I mean I can understand why for a new IP to release it on XB1 and PC. Especially after AW's sales, I can't blame Remedy. But man, MS is making it harder to justify me keeping my XB1. At least with PS4, its first party AAA games will never go to PC and it has a few Japanese third party exclusives as well to justify it.
NoblesseOblige
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I have no interest in owning an XB1 however if exclusives came to PC and had cross-platform multiplayer, I would buy two to gift one to each of my brothers so we had the ability to play together.
Wont be on steam
Quick way of telling if it will show up on steam
Does it use xbox live for multiplayer? - not on steam
Those apis are only accessible to universal app compiled games...and they can't or wont be delivered on steam
Jonneh3003
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Xbox games that don't require you to buy an Xbox system. There is very little reason to own both a PC and an Xbox One with all these titles making their way to PC, people have shown they will wait for software rather than buy hardware for it with Rise of the Tomb Raider, this won't benefit the Xbox One in any way and will probably harm it greatly.
PS4 and Xbox One already don't compete in price and they hardly compete in hardware. Games are the only thing that can turn the Xbox One from a second place console to a first place one and they are deminishing its value with these announcements.
Stealthcobra
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except 99% of all ps4 exclusives never go to pc... theres a rare occasion but i cant think of 1 exclusive for ps4 that ended up on pc
dancrane212
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Of course there is value in having something distinct from you competitor but I'm arguing that if games like Sunset Overdrive or Alan Wake are more successful out of the gate that we will see more of them and not have MS move onto something trying something else.
Pretty much this. It also sets a thought within the mind of future consumers that exculsive games coming to the xbox may well come to the PC too. So unless MS can get their first party studios to be on equal footing with their competitors I feel it does hurt the xbox brand.
Regardless. This is really good for Remedy and their new IP as it allows them greater exposure. Hoping the best for them!
Thank you. There a ton of people in this thread who are living on the assumption everyone who doesn't have a Xbox is because they have a gaming PC and now they have no reason to. That's not even remotely the case. And I agree about the future of the console going forward.
Lanrutcon
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Excuse me?
Modern gpus allow multiple output devices to be connected at once. My PC is connected to my lounge TV and screen in my study(where the box is). I've got a wireless m&k + controller in my study and lounge.I'm slightly confused...this isn't exactly a radical development in home computing, guys. HDMI cables?
How when multiplatform games (many of which are on PC) are the top selling games on both the PS4 and Xbox One?
Exclusives really aren't doing much this gen. This past Holiday season showed that pretty clearly.
No positive for a console only gamer?
What about the fact that this push will help new IPs (that are good) to have a greater chance at success and thus become franchises with multiple sequels?
I loved Sunset Overdrive. If a PC version of the game would have caused a Sunset Overdrive 2 then how is that a bad thing? Most who care about consoles only will continue on caring about consoles only.
This move is setting the base for MS to merge Xbox and PC/Windows 10. This will cause the Xbox brand as a whole to better compete with the larg(er) worldwide userbase of PlayStation.
dancrane212
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And how many people out there own a PC and Xbox that buy more than just exclusives on that console? If MS is just selling a handful of titles to that user what was the sense is subsidising them a console? Would it not be better to just sell them games on the platform they already own?
I enjoy sitting in front of my TV
I get 2/4 free games per month via Gold
I don't really want to drop £600+ for a competent gaming PC
Those are just a few. That being said LIVE functionality is on the PC too, the biggest thing it loses is the subscription.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I gave my Xbox One away to my brother in laws around Christmas as I already feel it has little value compared to PS4 but I was planning on picking another up when Scalebound launches, now I'll probably never get another Xbox One unless several more exclusive games remain on the platform. Why buy an Xbox One when the games I want are also on PC? Microsoft is deminishing everything that makes the console stand out, exclusives matter. Exclusives are the sole thing that make one console different to another, its the reason I own about 30 consoles but I have no intention of buying another Xbox One in its current state. Microsoft has given me no reason to.
tiredheadcrab
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Yeah most of them are talking about 2 different people in the end really. Just because 3rd parties are on PC doesnt mean the console sales dropped. Consoles just have a wider appeal because they are easy to plug and play. This is a gaming enthusiast board so its a bit of a bubble.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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It's a very sticky situation. On one hand it's great for gamers in general. On the other hand I definitely understand the frustration of xbox owners: they bought Xbox for the big exclusives, only to realize it's not exclusive anymore. It sucks for PC + Xbox owners but it shouldn't affect Xbox only owners.
You're assuming that there is an Xbox One at all. A hardware platform called an Xbox which people have bought for Halo or whatever, as opposed to a PS4. How would an Xbox justify its existence if MS don't actually have to take a hit on production cost vs retail price? Do you expect there to be an Xbox out of the goodness of MS' hearts at that point?
If they don't buy an Xbox One and buys the game for PC, perpetuating those sales blips you mention on the Xbox, I'm sure MS will be even happier to drop out of the hardware race, yeah.
Why do you think they have an Xbox One to begin with? Contra the PS4, what's the point of having an Xbox?
All of your arguments are based on the assumption that a Xbox hardware platform exists, and yet all of those arguments are for things that would undermine that platform.
It's also a widely shared, bizarre notion that the cost of entry and the required know-how to play PC games is so dizzyingly substantial that it would single-handedly justify the Xbox hardware's existence. You can essentially click on a thing on the windows store, hook up an HDMI cable and an Xbox pad, and be off to the races. You can get a graphics card for a little over a hundred bucks to pump some adrenaline into your family/work PC - provided that it's not completely ancient - and it's pppppretty much an Xbox. Is this something "people won't do"? I dunno. Once word gets out that anything worthwhile for Xbox is available there, I can think of other things people will be less likely to do. Especially in the nearly insurmountable trending away from Xbox and toward PS4.
I'm not contesting that the games themselves would sell better if put on a platform that people are less antagonistic towards, nor that Microsoft themselves would do better business. I am, however, saying that for the Xbox as a hardware platform, and for its fans and the narrative that surrounds it, having it perpetually be the *worst* place for Xbox fans to play *the games they are fans of* is neither good for the image of the platform, nor something I expect those fans to just brush off and be cool with.
But you're echoing business decisions that make total sense. I don't think what you're saying is in any way unfeasible or wrong. It's the first move in phasing out Xbox as a flagship gaming platform though, and that's not a fun thing for fans at all. How very hollow all the commercials will sound when you're truly and utterly better off playing on PC than on the main competitor to the other consoles that the commercial is marketing.
I think this is great, as a PC and Xbox player. If we get more cross-buy options like with Quantum Break that's frigging awesome. I have different friend groups on different platforms.
The Xbox One was always meant to converge with the PC and other devices. The idea was always to have one 'app store' which carried purchases across devices. It just took MS far too long to get there.
The Xbox One was always meant to converge with the PC and other devices. The idea was always to have one 'app store' which carried purchases across devices. It just took MS far too long to get there.
You are a PC gamer. Many people who play on consoles aren't.
These Xbox games coming to PC aren't going to greatly hurt the Xbox brand in comparison to the state that it's currently in.
Same is true for PS4 games like Street Fighter V. Nothing about the PS4's sales state would really change if games like SFV stayed on PS4 only. Therefore, it's best to make these games be available to play for more users to bring in more money for the companies that make these games. More money = more games on consoles (and PC).
My thoughts exactly, I think the next platform will bring PC and console closer together, possibly with cross purchase.
Omnistalgic
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Well the difference is ps4 has exclusives coming from more avenues since its market leader and more successful worldwide. The issue here is just about value. If you own a powerful PC, the value to getting an X1 lowers with every exclusive announced also coming to PC.
It's really a good move IMO, as I don't want to buy an X1 just to play Cuphead, Scalebound, etc..and I can just upgrade my PC instead.
dancrane212
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Again,
If you are just buying exclusives on Xbox One why would MS care to sell you a console at a loss/tiny profit? Does it make that much of a difference to MS if you buy those handful of titles on an Xbox or PC?
Mr. Giggles
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I think with streaming tech becoming more and more viable it makes more sense to evolve the brand to gaming platform regardless of medium...
So yes buy from Xbox store and play anywhere is the direction
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I have a feeling GAF is going to be a Fanboy filled Battlefield today. Probably best for my sanity if I avoid it for the rest of the day.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Yes, when I think of a console base being treated First Class, the first item that comes to mind is "I hope their exclusive games get ported to PC to hedge against poor sales".