Exactly. And more games in general. Some will always prefer to play on console, so Xbox is not going anywhere. And now PC gamers will also have more games, that will in turn also help those who own an Xbox. It is a win/win strategy for all involved.
Microsoft Releasing Exclusive Games on PC Is Great for Xbox Owners
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Exactly. And more games in general. Some will always prefer to play on console, so Xbox is not going anywhere. And now PC gamers will also have more games, that will in turn also help those who own an Xbox. It is a win/win strategy for all involved.
dancrane212
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But as someone who does primarily plays on XB1 I'm better off. I will have more people in the multiplayer pool and, more importantly, have a better chance of more niche games like Alan Wake being successful and not vanishing after one release.
I suppose the thread title does pigeon-hole me a bit in your case but I still think that this is a benefit for most people in the end. PC users get to play more games where they prefer and Xbox owners, or the ones who prefer to play on that platform when given the choice, get those before-mentioned benefits.
Disaster Nebraska
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You'd have to be able to prove that the increased sales on PC make up for the lost XBL subscription and console peripheral sales from the X1 version. I don't have any special knowledge in either case, but it's fair to consider.
As I've already said "this doesn't affect me" and "nothing has changed" does not really equate to "this is great for Xbox owners". Please help me understand how this makes up for the loss of exclusivity and potential loss of future sales and future installed base (and future games and future people to play online with). How does this not affect X1 owners in the long run?
Why do you make it your job to warn against "console war, sales boasting, and other such BS"?
It has already been brought up on numerous occasions in this thread how this may affect X1 owners. Not all X1 owners. Not to a degree that will annihilate the console. But there are real disadvantages that go against the OP's suggestion that this "is great from Xbox owners".
But when you write off other people's opinions in such a binary manner, it makes it hard to take you seriously.
Sure, it could be that.
Moon_frogger
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Because in all likelihood most of their friends will be playing on the Xbox. Haha. Actually, most of their friends will be playing on ps4 but I digress.
Saucycarpdog
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Free online, steam sales, vibrant communities, better graphical fidelity and flexibility definitely make me hesitate to buy either a PS4 or X1. Exclusives from the consoles coming to PC only makes that decision to stick with it even easier.
LordRaptor
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If the existing and projected X1 userbase isn't large enough to support high end AAA exclusives solely for their platform, then expanding that userbase to also include W10 users means you will continue getting support for your console instead of just getting Zuned.
Flintty
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And then a poll on what people think of the poll.
OrbitalBeard
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Of course this is a good thing. These games are now being exposed to a larger audience and the chances of further entries becomes greater. And MS isn't about to stop making Xbox consoles, because the average consumer will never even consider building a gaming rig.
Everybody wins, honestly.
Everybody wins, honestly.
I don't agree. MS releasing their exclusives on PC surely doesn't hurt Xbox One users,
but for me as an PS4 and WiiU owner it takes the last remaining incentive to buy a Xbox One in the future as I'd rather buy a new PC. Honestly if this trend continues, I don't see myself ever buying a MS console again. I'm going all in here: I see this as a sign of MS eventually exiting the console market.
but for me as an PS4 and WiiU owner it takes the last remaining incentive to buy a Xbox One in the future as I'd rather buy a new PC. Honestly if this trend continues, I don't see myself ever buying a MS console again. I'm going all in here: I see this as a sign of MS eventually exiting the console market.
As I have already said numerous times, most people who buy an Xbox One do so because they prefer consoles and do not give a shit about gaming on PC or if some of the exclusives go there as well. This is not going to hurt them a bit. People are not going to just start ditching their systems because some of the exclusives are on PC. As they prefer to play on consoles and that is why the bought the system to begin with.
This as well.
Nadella said his vision is to make Windows 10 experiences go with you across the screens you use in everyday life. He hasn't explicitly said as much, but I imagine that means as long as the TV is a highly used screen there will be a Windows 10 device for it.
Disaster Nebraska
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I'll reply to both since my response is the same.
You are operating under the assumption that Microsoft will "charity port" games over to X1 even if it's not a viable platform. You're assuming that the game will be developed to take full advantage of the X1 while at the same time also taking advantage of PC. You're assuming Microsoft is using this as a way to get more games on Xbox One instead of using it as a way to hedge the reduced financial outlook of their not-doing-nearly-as-well-as-they-hope (1 billion consoles ring a bell?) console.
Those are a lot of fair assumptions that have some facts behind them, but they're assumptions nonetheless. Microsoft does not have a good track record of supporting ailing platforms. I dunno, maybe they've turned over a new leaf and this will somehow fund games for the system. I doubt it, but anything is possible
Would you prefer to play on a system with more game support or less game support? That's the part you don't seem to be getting.
I'm glad "it doesn't affect you" in the sense that you weren't going to buy those games on PC. But it affects the health of your system in the long run, which means fewer games for you. In that regard, you'd have a hard time convincing me that doesn't affect you as a gamer.
Start slapping Xbox stickers on these Dell PCs.
MutonCommander
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What's the difference between a game being XB1/PC, 360/XB1, PS3/PS4 or PS4/PSV? Games are often available on multiple platforms of the same company, it's no different here. Microsoft's Xbox One, Microsoft's Windows.
I mean I have an xbox, but PCs are definitely a windows 10 device for tvs as well. Even for the folks that don't want to have one hooked up via HDMI, microsoft are definitely on board with devices being able to stream to each other.
Disclaimer: I game exclusively on the PC.
That may be your individual situation but many don't own a PC they could play on. They may already own a PC that could be upgraded for less than the cost of a console but they are intimidated by the idea of upgrading the PC. Average consumer will go through entire lifespan of a PC without opening the case even once to clean it, let alone upgrade memory/video card. Even if the PC owned wasn't a "crappy" one, consoles have their advantages, especially for people afraid of opening/tinkering with their hardware.
Buying a console, giving it away to family then buying again depending on game releases for it is silly, Microsoft may release few more exclusives, don't react to each announcement with buying another or giving another away.
The remaining few exclusives on the PC are exclusive due to genres that don't do well on consoles or for technical reasons. Exclusives helped promote platforms and lasted longer on the consoles having avoided piracy issues but AAA development & marketing costs is the primary reason exclusives are on the way out on the consoles too.
This is a great move overall.
But individually, those who are on the fence of getting an XB1 that also has a decent PC, will have less incentives in buying an XB1.
Me for example, I've been looking to buy an XB1 but still waiting for Scalebound. If Scalebound ends up on PC, I'm never getting an XB1.
Good for gamers overall, but not so good on XB1.
But individually, those who are on the fence of getting an XB1 that also has a decent PC, will have less incentives in buying an XB1.
Me for example, I've been looking to buy an XB1 but still waiting for Scalebound. If Scalebound ends up on PC, I'm never getting an XB1.
Good for gamers overall, but not so good on XB1.
Gipsy Danger
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Sony gets a cut of any game released on PS3/VITA/PS4 but Microsoft does not get a cut on every game on PC. There's a big difference.
vasametropolis
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The arguments for either side all come down to preference. You are playing in Microsoft's court now.
If you'd prefer to have a console, not care about upgrades, are OK paying for XBL (games with gold, backwards compatible game bundle deals)... then go ahead and enjoy your purchase like the millions of people out there.
If you are willing to pay top dollar up front, like upgrading, keyboard and mouse option, your home has always been the PC platform, etc... then the PC is for you.
Microsoft's new strategy is Windows 10. They are now positioning Xbox as a system running a version of Windows 10. They want the games to be "Windows" (OS exclusive), not Xbox (hardware exclusive).
The hardware device you choose to play on (PC, Xbox) is up to you. They want us to be Windows 10 gamers first and foremost. I think it's a good strategy for them.
If you'd prefer to have a console, not care about upgrades, are OK paying for XBL (games with gold, backwards compatible game bundle deals)... then go ahead and enjoy your purchase like the millions of people out there.
If you are willing to pay top dollar up front, like upgrading, keyboard and mouse option, your home has always been the PC platform, etc... then the PC is for you.
Microsoft's new strategy is Windows 10. They are now positioning Xbox as a system running a version of Windows 10. They want the games to be "Windows" (OS exclusive), not Xbox (hardware exclusive).
The hardware device you choose to play on (PC, Xbox) is up to you. They want us to be Windows 10 gamers first and foremost. I think it's a good strategy for them.
I feel like they would still make the hw if they went this route lol
OrbitalBeard
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If Scalebound ends up on PC, you'll be swimming in the Windows 10 ecosystem, so MS probably doesn't really care that you aren't buying their console. The XB1 will be just fine.
SEGAvangelist
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They get a cut for Windows 10 store purchases, though.
dancrane212
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Just going off how Xbox exclusives hardly crack the top 5 (let alone the top 10 which Halo 5 is the only one to stay there frequently in the past couple months) in the most played charts on the console but I feel there are far more folk playing CoD and Fifa with a gold subscription than those using it for Halo or Gears. Games that if you wanted, could be played for free on PC.
It is still a fair comment with Xbox multiplayer being free on PC but the more I talk about it the more I think it isn't as big a "thing" as I thought it was back in 2014.
Almost all Xbox accessories work on PC as well. I don't think it's too much of a risky statement to say MS has sold a lot of controllers over the years to PC users.
If I already own and play Xbox as my platform of choice why should it affect me in those negative ways? I don't care if the guy whooping me in KI is on a console or not.
Like I said in the OP there are some cases where things, like PC owners who bought a console for exclusives, where things may be disappointing but in the end I think most folk win in this situation. More people get to play where they want to.
Gipsy Danger
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Which I would guess is a very small minority of PC game sales. Obviously they get 100% of the games they develop and put on the W10 Store.
OrbitalBeard
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Anyone take a look at Phil Spencer's twitter today? I hate giving someone like Crapgamer attention, but this was too good.
haha awesome
HD Duck Pics
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And that's why it hurts me. I'm an Xbox owner and I spend most of my time playing multiplayer.
Every exclusive game that the Xbox loses means there's fewer reasons for people like you to buy an Xbox, which means there's fewer people for me to play against.
Cross platform play isn't really an answer when I'm playing FPS titles and don't want to go up against KB+M users.
Gipsy Danger
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Good that he's a crybaby who gets mad when MORE people get to play a game he is looking forward to?
BUT IT'S THE PRINCIPLE, PHIL.
There are still MILLIONS of Xbox Ones out there. Your games aren't going to die because people can also play them on PC.
TouchMyBox
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Minus transactions fees and bandwidth costs.
Well, judging by his name, maybe he's a joke account?
I'm kind of ignorant about QB and the other games that Gamespot mentioned, but aren't they primarily single-player?
Anyone take a look at Phil Spencer's twitter today? I hate giving someone like Crapgamer attention, but this was too good.
Dat Xboss class.
This is good news all around, as long as they don't use this as a way to exit the Xbox market, because I'd miss it.
Now bring X360 BC to Windows 10 with RDR and set the world on fire, Phil!
ecosse_011172
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It may be good for gamers who only have an XBOX but as a gamer who owns a gaming PC and the 3 home consoles it just means that I'll now sell my XBO as it's now pointless.
The only franchises being kept exclusive (Halo, Forza, Gears) are the ones I'm not into.
Everything I bought the XBO for (apart from Sunset Overdrive) will now be available and run better on my PC.
The only franchises being kept exclusive (Halo, Forza, Gears) are the ones I'm not into.
Everything I bought the XBO for (apart from Sunset Overdrive) will now be available and run better on my PC.
SEGAvangelist
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Anyone take a look at Phil Spencer's twitter today? I hate giving someone like Crapgamer attention, but this was too good.
This made my day. Deserves a new thread to show how awesome Phil is.
vasametropolis
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People like this aren't worth the air they breathe. It makes no sense. You can be miffed about it for personal reasons (maybe you would have rather bought a computer?). But, cancelling for that? come on... MS doesn't need his business.Anyone take a look at Phil Spencer's twitter today? I hate giving someone like Crapgamer attention, but this was too good.
Gipsy Danger
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How is that a bad thing? You can get some money back for a console and play the games at 1080/60.
SEGAvangelist
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Good news for you then!
R3TRO
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Basing it on common sense to be honest (and not to be rude).
More people having access to a game = more possible sales = new IPs having a better chance at becoming franchises with multiple entries instead of "one and done".
They don't need to exit the market with xbox. The can separate the gaming section of the windows 10 store to be merge with the xbox app, without including the mobile game. Now you need to open the xbox app to buy the games.
lol
Mass_Pincup
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Because he lost money on his purchase?
I just see it as what I've been expecting them to do, expanding the Xbox platform to include Windows 10. Supporting PC isn't going to lose that many console sales, but it could increase software sales a fair amount. Consoles and PC are largely two different markets, so they are basically doing what they should have done ages ago and supporting both markets. As an XBO owner I am excited about this shift because it means my best friend, who is a PC gamer, can now get these awesome games as well.
I just hope this goes even further with full cross buy and cross play support where it makes sense. I would love to see Sea of Thieves have cross platform multiplayer, as it would improve the community for both consoles and PC players.
If you look at the logo screen at the end of the newest QB trailer you'll notice that it simply says Xbox instead of Xbox One, I think this is a perfect representation of their direction.
I just hope this goes even further with full cross buy and cross play support where it makes sense. I would love to see Sea of Thieves have cross platform multiplayer, as it would improve the community for both consoles and PC players.
If you look at the logo screen at the end of the newest QB trailer you'll notice that it simply says Xbox instead of Xbox One, I think this is a perfect representation of their direction.
And considering how much PC gaming has grown, this is the best news for first party Microsoft.
Install base pretty much doesn't mean shit anymore.
LordRaptor
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I mean... if you assume this is a move reflective of the X1s failure to meet expectations internally, this isn't the cause of that systems long term health being damaged, its a symptom that that damage is already there.
Comfy couch, lower initial price, not fiddling with settings, friends play on there, closed system, etc.
Aren't those the usual excuses?