Batman V Superman Final Trailer

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I've got to admit, those batman fight scenes looked a lot of fun, and made me slightly more excited about the stand alone movie.

The rest still kind of looks like arse to me though, way too immaturely grim dark, leaving Superman more an afterthought than an equal, I still can't get past the terrible casting for Wonder Woman, or the fact the character bores me to tears at the best of times, and it's all just so washed out, lifeless and try hard feeling.

But yeah, that Batman fighting stuff looked neat and totally over the top. That was cool.
 
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I love the Nolan Batman movies, but I'm glad we got Batfleck.

The thing about that .gif is that it almost seems like its not finished. If you look, when Batman hits the guy, his arm flails out, and it looks like the gun should go off accidentally and shoot the guy who magically "slips" and falls. Its almost like they forgot to add that detail on the gun and CGI the shot going out.
 
I think the extended cut of Sucker Punch is a massive improvement. I'd put it just above Dawn of the Dead as Snyder's best movie.

I feel I'm probably alone on this.
 
I disagree with two things in this post:

1) Watchmen DC version is a fantastic movie, far better than the theatrical release was, and is actually one of my favorite comic films

2) JJ has directed some really good films and shows, calling his stuff merely average to terrible is ludicrous (minus a few stinkers)

But, opinions, we all have them.

1) DC isn't what we got in theaters and even still the DC suffers from pacing issues. It's just really hard to adapt Watchmen not that I don't think he did a heck of a job trying.

2) I'm not discounting that JJ has done some good stuff but I am saying he is a better marketer than director. I thought TFA was alright but compared to the near GALACTIC hype those trailers promised it was nowhere near what many expected. We got a lot of secrecy and mystery (JJ's bread and butter) over what turned out to be a remake of ANH. Again, not saying the movie was anywhere near bad but I think it is more than fair to claim the trailers were much better than what we actually got. And, this problem is endemic to all of JJ's efforts.
 
Gets knifed in the neck. Doesn't even notice.
Bliss.
I'm blissing.
Still crying my heart out for the return of the slow-mos: ellenic superheroine = "I can put slow-mos back in because 300".
 
My thoughts exactly. Watched MoS with my friend, she said the film felt like one long dream sequence, it wasn't so much a film as a series of scenes stuck together.

I lay that at Goyer's feet than Snyder. The structure of that movie is a big mess of strands that don't come together well. It came off to me as a rushed script and one of Goyer's weakest attempts.
 
I dunno, I don't see this movie as immaturely grim dark. I just see it as actually having an established look and tone unlike most of the Marvel movies, most of which, outside of Guardians, are directed with about as much visual style as an episode of a Network TV drama.
 
Yeah, the properties of this fictional substance that comes from a comic book universe that has rebooted too many times to count are totally a fixed thing.

screw your sarcasm. It's never taken his powers completely in one shot without him noticing that he was suddenly dying of cancer.
 
I'm not going to be able to unsee this now on repeated viewings will I?

Totally missed how bad this was when I saw it in theaters

That's cause most people watch movies once and don't obsess over things like slowed down fight gifs. No one catches that stuff except for movie nerds who watch over and over. To me it doesn't being down a movie as long it's an overall enjoyable movie.

The fight scene on the rooftop with Catwoman was far worse.

Obviously the fight scenes in this area set better, shot better, and choreographed much better BUT that was expected.
 
I'm not going to be able to unsee this now on repeated viewings will I?

Totally missed how bad this was when I saw it in theaters

The majority of action scenes look bad when slowed down, turns out those actors really aren't hitting each other. TDKR had pretty good action and finally seemed to step away from the god-awful shaky cam mess that was Batman Begins.

Case in point, normal speed goodness:

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The thing about that .gif is that it almost seems like its not finished. If you look, when Batman hits the guy, his arm flails out, and it looks like the gun should go off accidentally and shoot the guy who magically "slips" and falls. Its almost like they forgot to add that detail on the gun and CGI the shot going out.

Oh shit, that makes so much sense now.
 
screw your sarcasm. It's never taken his powers completely in one shot without him noticing that he was suddenly dying of cancer.

Happened in Superman Returns as well. Or has that terrible "I'm still Superman!" scene been pushed way back where your brain hopes to never find it?
 
I dunno, I don't see this movie as immaturely grim dark. I just see it as actually having an established look and tone unlike most of the Marvel movies, most of which, outside of Guardians, are directed with about as much visual style as an episode of a Network TV drama.

Heh. You're being very charitable to DC and very shitty to Marvel and you know it (and I don't consider myself a fan of the MCU, fwiw). That being said, I do appreciate the more distinctive visual style. Now let's see if they can maintain a cohesive look and feel between films.
 
The majority of action scenes look bad when slowed down, turns out those actors really aren't hitting each other. TDKR had pretty good action and finally seemed to step away from the god-awful shaky cam mess that was Batman Begins.

Case in point, normal speed goodness:

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Oh shit, that makes so much sense now.

That plus these scenes with Snyder rely on effects. Most of the hand to hand fights in Nolan movies have zero special effects. He could have benefitted greatly from going about it like Snyder but he was going for something completely different.

I do agree some of the action in TDKR, like the end chase scene is shot fantastically.
 
As awesome as the trailer is, awesome trailers are kind of Snyder's shtick. Still no faith that this is going to be good.
 
Snyder is really good at crafting really cool looking moments. He shares that skill with Bay. But he seems to spend so much currency on making those individual moments that the surrounding stuff kind of flatlines, because it doesn't have as much effort or it needs to be twisted and contrived in such a way to result in that cool singular moment. This is exemplified when he starts working towards specific panels from a comic book, and it becomes a chain of "LOOK AT THIS COOL SHOT" and "THIS IS THE COOLEST MOMENT EVER" and the links between those moments are barely holding things together, or they aren't at all.

he makes movies for trailers. not trailers for movies.
 
For me personally?

I think 300 is a great movie, so is Watchmen, Dawn of the Dead and Man of Steel.

And his most underrated movie Legend of the Guardians.

I've never seen Legend of the Guardians. Whenever I see it mentioned somewhere I can't help but think of Matt Damon.

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Heh. You're being very charitable to DC and very shitty to Marvel and you know it (and I don't consider myself a fan of the MCU, fwiw). That being said, I do appreciate the more distinctive visual style. Now let's see if they can maintain a cohesive look and feel between films.

I'm just talking about visuals here.

If there's one thing Zach Snyder is good at, it's visuals and action.

If there's one thing Marvel is shit at, it's that a lot of their films have a really flat and uninspired look.

This is not news, critics and filmmakers alike have commented for years on how Marvel's films look like TV episodes.

I'm not talking about the direction of actors, the writing, or any other of the equally important aspects of filmmaking.
 
Man.
Just what the hell. How can you shoot this and be like "yeah, looks good!"



There's probably not even a human being in some of those shots.

I think he just wanted to get his Batman saga over with so none fucked up with his version of Batman.
 
She has always had the air of no fun allowed.

So I can believe that.

Tell me about it. You can't stop talking to your boy from back in the day, over nothing. It had to be due to some serious beef or a girl (in this case Ben's wife). Bros before hos is good and all but when you have kids it ain't that simple.
 
The majority of action scenes look bad when slowed down, turns out those actors really aren't hitting each other. TDKR had pretty good action and finally seemed to step away from the god-awful shaky cam mess that was Batman Begins.

Case in point, normal speed goodness:

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Oh shit, that makes so much sense now.

The choreography in the series was still bad. It was a whole series of people waiting for their cues. The penthouse fight in The Dark Knight was when I first really noticed it.

That gif is a guy running up to Batman with a gun with his arm outstretched just screaming "disarm me"
 
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