Temporary fix until they unify the Xbox and Windows Store.
Microsoft Releasing Exclusive Games on PC Is Great for Xbox Owners
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Temporary fix until they unify the Xbox and Windows Store.
speedomodel
Member
I am always confused when people assume the majority of people buy consoles for exclusives like them.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
There's several of these advocates giving the spiel right now.
Ok after reading dozens of pages of comments, here's my 2 cents worth.....
I am primarily a pc gamer. I bought an Xbone to play Destiny with my friends. Would I have still bought it had Destiny come out on pc? Yes. Because all of my friends were playing on Xbox. Those same friends will be playing the Division.....Sure it will look better on pc I think, but guess which version I will be buying? Yep, Xbox. Most of my friends have no interest in building a gaming pc. And, the more I play with a controller, the less I care for the KB and mouse. Will this cross releasing with pc hurt the Xbone? Sure, there could be a small ripple effect......Is it most likely being blown way out of proportion? I say absolutely. Just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
I am primarily a pc gamer. I bought an Xbone to play Destiny with my friends. Would I have still bought it had Destiny come out on pc? Yes. Because all of my friends were playing on Xbox. Those same friends will be playing the Division.....Sure it will look better on pc I think, but guess which version I will be buying? Yep, Xbox. Most of my friends have no interest in building a gaming pc. And, the more I play with a controller, the less I care for the KB and mouse. Will this cross releasing with pc hurt the Xbone? Sure, there could be a small ripple effect......Is it most likely being blown way out of proportion? I say absolutely. Just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
wapplew
Member
Majority of console gamer doesn't care about PC; majority of console gamer don't also own a capable PC; majority of console gamer doesn't care about exclusive.
Those minority sure add up and I don't think Xbox one install base is big enough to ignore those "minor" customer.
I'm sure MS doesn't hope those minority join the competitors too.
I know I know, the big picture, console is not important, ecosystem is the future etc,
I'm just trying to say all MS exclusive become console exclusive is not guarantee great for Xbox.
We are talking in circles here and I don't even think that I#m really discussing against you..
Please, see where I'm coming from: yes, a console like the xbox still offers advantages for the casual market: 1. low price 2. convenience
Compared to the Iphone/Ipad, those advantages are not set in stone.
A tablet by definition will always be harder to carry around than a smart-phone.
BUT, a PC doesn't have to be less convenient/ more complex and far more expensive than a console. This is a innovation/business problem. Let me pull something out of my ass: Let's say someone like MS came up in 2005 with a custom PC with 2 power buttons running two Os versions - console mode + PC mode. Or it could automatically enter console mode when you use the controller to start the machine. Something like this is possible, but I'm not arguing that it is/was a lucrative idea.
All of you guys talking about the eco-system stuff don't get that for the consumer it would be best to have like 3 devices at best for all the possible applications (stationary, mobile and something in between). Look at the situation now and you will see that it doesn't work this way. Apps like Netflix run on phones, TVs, PCs, smartphones, consoles, tablets - they are the real winners of this fractualized market. I'm one of the few gamers who would welcome all of the big three going 3rd party, because I won't put 3 devices that by principle do the same fucking thing in my rack anymore. This is totally contrary to the unified ecosystem vision.
Yeah but it's not. Literally every Xbox One game that I own now or want to buy is also on PC now and I have a capable PC. Microsoft has made it clear that I wasted $500. Please tell me how buying an Xbox One was good for me because I feel like it was a total ripoff.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
Luckily I use both my console and PC and this is a great thing for me. Feel bad for you tho. maybe someone else can get use out of your xbox
Thanks, this is the type of opinion that weighs way more than all of the posts celebrating the unified ecosystem jazz in this thread.
I'm not even stating an opinion here. I can afford a good PC and I don't see myself ever buying a MS console again under this circumstances. That's all. They will still get my money for their OS, so where's the problem?
Ok, take away iPhone and iPad and put a cheap android phone and cheap android tablet. My point still stands. It's not about those devices exactly and the stuff around them, it's showing a reason why people WOULD buy both devices.
Yes, a PC doesn't have to be more expensive or non-convenient. Someone could go buy a Steam Machine right now, play Steam games. Do people do it...yes, a small number, but it hasn't taken off. Xbox on the other hand has taken off, and they are just doing the opposite route of going to the PC. Some people will have both, majority will be in one or the other.
Markoman said:
Nobody stated that it was a problem. The unified ecosystem is good for people just like the guy above you. That's why it's a good thing. You have both, you can play both after buying it once. It's really just that simple. BOGO free. If it doesn't apply to you then there's nothing to argue as you are a non-factor.
EDIT:
This is why I brought up the iPhone and iPad. They have the same ecosystem. You don't have to buy both but if you do, you have the benefit of having your stuff on both without having to buy it multiple times.
But it is. No one forced you to make that decision, no one held a gun to your head. You still enjoyed the games you played and the experiences are not invalid because they are coming to PC. You didn't know at the time, not even MS knew they were going to do this at the time.
Also it is a lie. Every MS game is not coming to PC, I'm sure there are a couple maybe even you could be interested in. Also when you buy QB for example you get both versions for one price.
I can keep going on and on and in no way it is bad except for the misguided feeling you have of being cheated. You can still play and have fun of your X1, if you don't want it then sell it and get some parts upgrade. The possibilities are a lot, bu it seems you want to complain of what your perception of 'value' really is. The X1 still works and is relevant even though a couple of games will come out for it that are also on PC.
TL;DR?: The X1 is good for you because you had fun for what you bought it for. If you feel like it was a ripoff then that's on you because no one forced you to buy it and the same reason you bought for last time is still there, you just feel hurt because you have a capable PC and for some reason think that;s make it obsolete.
Hate it that much? get off your ass and sell it. I myself have a more than capable PC, a X1 and a PS4. I still enjoy playing on all 3 even though a game can come out for all of them and look better in one or the other. There are still tons of games that won't come to PC. There are still friends and online experiences I have on X1. The list goes on and still I don;t look for excuses to say something is obsolete when it isn't
Sorry pal, you still don't get my point.
Phones and tablets are like apples and oranges.
Consoles and PCs are like baby apples and adult apples.
Steam machines don't take off, because this is a fractualized market. To many manufactures = no focused marketing efforts. And...surprise, competition from consoles and mobile devices! The Steam machine idea was great, the execution is poor. Plain as that. Still, if PCs were easier to use why would I use my Xbox if it plays the same games and is connected to the same TV like my PC? Let's talk about options: Yes, I have several options to run Netflix, but I have never watched a movie on my phone nor using the built-in Netflix app in my TV. Please, tell me what box A does so differently from box B? I do get the NX concept if it works the way we all imagine: you can take your mobile device on vacation and play Ninti games where ever you are. What is Xbox' special trick???
Crayon
Member
An xbox and a windows pc area nothing like a phone and tablet. You obviously have a hard on for everything microsoft says but so far we are looking at a minuscule handful of games with this amazing buy once/play anywhere capability. If you have an android phone and tablet, you have 100% compatibility. With the xbox and windows 10, it's what... 2 or 3 games and the xbox app features? Wrong-way streaming?
That's why people don't "get it", Zedox. Cross platform is old news for everyone else and for microsoft it still isn't even there yet. They finally had to release office for ios. That's as far as they've got.
They are putting the xbox to bed and windows tablet apps will be cross-device not cross platform. This whole unification push is the emperor's new clothes.
It seems that many people have now discovered that the console they chose was a bad buy. That is, it seems they were enduring to be in a bad game platform simply to acquire the right to play 3 or 4 exclusive titles. Now those few games are, as well as on its platform, elsewhere, they are willing to make the leap.
Were they so uncomfortable?
What is problem for them then? Moving to a more comfortable platform? Really I don't get it.
Were they so uncomfortable?
What is problem for them then? Moving to a more comfortable platform? Really I don't get it.
Mihos
Gold Member
I hate console exclusives anyway. So this is nothing but good for me. If it means I can now play Forza on my Shield, then maybe I will actually buy Forza.
I buy 3rd party on PS4 or PC, an haven't really bought any xbox1 games this year because I just haven't bothered to plug in the box since I swapped in the WiiU to play Xenoblade
I buy 3rd party on PS4 or PC, an haven't really bought any xbox1 games this year because I just haven't bothered to plug in the box since I swapped in the WiiU to play Xenoblade
Maybe he should reply to this. I was under the impression that he is not very satisfied with this situation. Let's do the math: He spend x amount of $ on a PC + 500$ on a Xbox One. I assume that 500$ is not worth it to have the option to play games on two stationary devices in his household. He could have bought a high-end GFX for 500$ + the amount he has spent on his current card ->
500$= having the option to play QB in his bedroom or his living room vs. GTX 970 or Titan.
My dick is so hard right now, you just said Microsoft. -_-...please grow up. No shit with Windows 10 and Xbox you don't have 100% compatibility, and it's not to say you will ever get 100% compatibility (3rd parties would have to do it to..duh), they are just starting the cross-buy out.
Sorry pal, you still don't get my point.
Phones and tablets are like apples and oranges.
Consoles and PCs are like baby apples and adult apples.
Steam machines don't take off, because this is a fractualized market. To many manufactures = no focused marketing efforts. And...surprise, competition from consoles and mobile devices! The Steam machine idea was great, the execution is poor. Plain as that. Still, if PCs were easier to use why would I use my Xbox if it plays the same games and is connected to the same TV like my PC? Let's talk about options: Yes, I have several options to run Netflix, but I have never watched a movie on my phone nor using the built-in Netflix app in my TV. Please, tell me what box A does so differently from box B? I do get the NX concept if it works the way we all imagine: you can take your mobile device on vacation and play Ninti games where ever you are. What is Xbox' special trick???
Phones and tablets are apples and oranges? Add phone capability to a iPad mini with LTE and you have a iPhone 6S++. I wouldn't necessarily say they are hugely different. You could always add LTE to an Ipad and use Google Voice and you basically have a huge iPhone. Let's not kid ourselves. You can't just add something to an apple and it become an orange whilst you can with a tablet and it become your phone.
Why are you insistent on asking me what makes the Xbox One so different that you shouldn't have both when I clearly stated that you don't have to. Sheesh. I explained my analogy, that's all. You keep trying to make it seem that my analogy is wrong and honestly I don't care if you don't see it how I do.
And to answer your question about Xbox's special trick...if you bought a W10 store game that was cross buy with xbox, you left your xbox at home. You bring your gaming laptop on the road with you, you can play your same game exactly where you left it. Jesus, it this concept so hard to comprehend?
Markoman said:
There will be people who like the situation and people who don't. No need to do math. People spend money on what they want. Some care more about PC and some care more about console, and some people like both for a number of different reasons.
therealbigrich
Member
It sounds like everything you are saying is very logical and makes sense. Thing is not everyone thinks like that and I'm not saying that you think they do . Someone can have a pc , x1, ps4 and wii u just to be able to make sure he can play with his friends cause they don't have a pc or ps4 .
RedSparrows
Member
Are we still dancing round the bloody mulberry bush about this?
It's all very well saying what the most obvious thing to do is, but people seem to consistently ignore what millions of people actually do.
It's all very well saying what the most obvious thing to do is, but people seem to consistently ignore what millions of people actually do.
Sorry pal, you still don't get my point.
Phones and tablets are like apples and oranges.
Consoles and PCs are like baby apples and adult apples.
Steam machines don't take off, because this is a fractualized market. To many manufactures = no focused marketing efforts. And...surprise, competition from consoles and mobile devices! The Steam machine idea was great, the execution is poor. Plain as that. Still, if PCs were easier to use why would I use my Xbox if it plays the same games and is connected to the same TV like my PC? Let's talk about options: Yes, I have several options to run Netflix, but I have never watched a movie on my phone nor using the built-in Netflix app in my TV. Please, tell me what box A does so differently from box B? I do get the NX concept if it works the way we all imagine: you can take your mobile device on vacation and play Ninti games where ever you are. What is Xbox' special trick???
First of all I think phones and tablets are way more similar than pc and console but that's not what this is about, is it?
Xbox special trick is ease of use/price/eco system and in some cases even functionality. For example: I would call myself quite tech savvy, I got my pc hooked up to my living room tv, It's not super beefy but capable enough to run some games. Still I prefer to play even stuff that is technical not that demanding like tales from the borderlands for example on my xbox. Hell I play all my multiplats on my xb1 instead of my ps4 due to me liking the eco system better. That's enough reason for a lot of people.
One other huge reason for me to go with consoles instead of pc is sound. I still have a surround receiver that only has optical inputs instead of hdmi, so this basically means I get surround sound with console games but only stereo with pc games. Instead of buying a new surround receiver there is no way to circumvent that (instead of going analog instead of digital which isn't an option for me)
There are more, like being able to play with my friends who don't have a pc hooked up to their living room tv. Jumping back into my game quick through instant resume, my pc isn't dedicated to be a gaming machine, so I can't just keep games running in the background
I'm sure I could think of a couple more.
Point being there are a lot of legitimate reasons to rather play a game available also on PC on console. And If you look at the data we have available for multiplatform games, it looks like most people agree. Now if you are a game of this group (I would argue the majority) Who want's to play PC/XB1 games you will go for an xbox. I don't know why this is so hard to grasp?
therealbigrich
Member
I think when the X1 was 1st released and it was 500 and you could get a PC for 600 or 700 that was a lot stronger then I can see a good point if we were in the situation that x1 had no exclusives . Right now its 300 with games constantly and it feel like MS has switched where they are targeting the Xbox .
Basically I feel there are two types of Xbox people right now. Ones that have a Pc but bought a 500 console for exclusives now feeling like they wasted money . My thinking on that is it still works and you got 2 years of exclusives . Now you have the option to sell it if you will not use it
Then we have guys saying no one will buy a Xbox or they will not make another xbox . To that I say at the price of 300 dollars a lot of parents and guys with not a lot of money that want to play games will. As well as people that just believe PC is to hard to deal with . Will MS make another Xbox I really believe so but it will likely be a 300 or 400 set top type that can play games and they can get that sub money.
I know I went way off OP topic but my only way I can see this really being great for Xbox owners is if I'm a console only gamer and these games on PC sell well then they will make a sequel and invest in new ips. more games are better for Xbox owners
Basically I feel there are two types of Xbox people right now. Ones that have a Pc but bought a 500 console for exclusives now feeling like they wasted money . My thinking on that is it still works and you got 2 years of exclusives . Now you have the option to sell it if you will not use it
Then we have guys saying no one will buy a Xbox or they will not make another xbox . To that I say at the price of 300 dollars a lot of parents and guys with not a lot of money that want to play games will. As well as people that just believe PC is to hard to deal with . Will MS make another Xbox I really believe so but it will likely be a 300 or 400 set top type that can play games and they can get that sub money.
I know I went way off OP topic but my only way I can see this really being great for Xbox owners is if I'm a console only gamer and these games on PC sell well then they will make a sequel and invest in new ips. more games are better for Xbox owners
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Maybe because the topic is about how it's great for Xbox owners, specifically. There is a tremendous amount of circling the wagons here, trying to convince people how this is good for PC gamers, how this is good for the Xbox ecosystem, how this "changes nothing", over and over and over again.
Yet, no one has managed to put up a decent argument as to how this benefits Xbox owners other than with "what ifs" and "maybes" like "what if this means more PC games get ported to X1?" and so forth.
Meanwhile, 40 years of gaming history is knocking at the door. It's shouting "losing exclusives has never benefited the console that lost them".
Xbox owners have won a ticket to travel to the future where they can buy the next xbox so they can play remasters of microsoft exclusives at better resolution/framerate without having to pay twice for those games.
In their hands is deciding whether to buy that "remaster" console from the future or stay the same. They have lost nothing.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Of course it doesn't change anything for people not planning to play on PC.
But can you understand why someone with a good PC has bought the X1 for its exclusivities might feel a bit fooled, and feel he made an investment not worth its money?
And on why it is bad for Xbox owners I got a perfect example my brother own a good PC, a Wii U and a PS4.
He wanted to buy an X1 for some of the exclusives.But now he dosn't want to buy it anymore.
It may lead to a slight or even bigger loss of sales and less xboxs means less content and less exclusivities for xbox owners.
Right now xbox solaes are getting crushed by the ps4 sales and doing that weakens the impact the Xbox has on the market.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
These are Olympic-level mental gymnastics. I'm impressed.
So, "We have a product for those who spent $500 on an Xbox One. It's called a PC"?
But they are apples and oranges. Forget the insides of said devices. When you go out partying, do you carry your tablet with you? Or are you one of those male-bag carriers ???
hahaYes, you are right. Someone who owns a gaming-laptop that is capable of running QB will have more options, but I assume that you will find more gamers who'd rather spend >1000$ on a beefy Desktop PC minus Xbox than gamers who spend their money on a expensive gaming laptop + Xbox. That's really a niche. Yeah, there is always one person on the planet who will benefit from any scenario x. That's basically what you are saying. From a business perspective let's look at the stats: in this thread one person -me- is clearly saying that he won't buy a MS console in the future. I don't read any posts of people saying 'Great, now I will buy a Xbox and a new PC with Windows 10'. Your argument is a 'nice' thing to have for customers, but it can go both ways for MS. Period.
That's a pretty good benefit in my eyes, especially considering the current situation where some games are skipping Xbox One all together. If the platform audience grows then devs will no doubt want to put more games in front of them.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Except the price of an Xbox and the price they put in those games on the store on which we don't know if it will always be cross buy.
Its good for XB1 owners because they can get a PC copy of the game for free. While I don't have a "gaming" PC now. When do decide to get one I will already have a few AAA titles to play on it.
Hmm, I wonder how the PC community felt over the years when games that were once exclusive to it came to console? I don't think I have ever seen such a thread discussed.
Xbudz
Member
All we can do is speculate. "Maybe" and "What if" is all anyone can say on the subject right now.
Personally, I am in the camp of having a good gaming PC and the Xbox One- so from my perspective it just means that I'll be spending less time on my Xbox One. I don't intend to sell it though. In fact, if they release a slim Xbox One, I'll trade up towards that!
Why? Because Xbox One will continue to see games that don't end up on PC.
Games that are exclusive to consoles (like Destiny) will still happen. The backwards compatible game list continues to grow as well, which includes games that never came to PC. The console isn't useless.
Now, if the extreme happens and Microsoft just turns Xbox One into a PC that can run Desktop Windows, and they completely break down the wall and allow full cross compatibility both ways- well, it's not really a console anymore is it? They could effectively make every PC a console (maybe that's the end goal?)
Anyway. This thread is good and these conversations were bound to happen. I can't wait to see what Microsoft has to announce this year.
I can't say about anyone else but I really did not care at all. I take no joy in seeing games locked to PC.
Nice avatar.
I think this is the other big benefit is that you have options now and in the future. You no longer have to leave your games behind if you started on a console and if your situation were to change at any point, where you were willing and able to get a good gaming desktop or laptop then you can take your games with you.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Yeah, it's a benefit. But it's an imaginary "what if" benefit.
It would be an unprecedented benefit, because in the past, losing exclusives (a.k.a shifting development focus away from one platform and spreading it across multiple platforms) has never worked out well for the platform losing those exclusives. Ever.
Smearing a thick layer of peanut butter over that fact doesn't change the fact that this is a shit sandwich. Losing exclusives is losing exclusives. The end. Maybe it won't be so bad (losing exclusives is rarely as bad as some people make it out to be) and maybe the Xbox ecosystem compatibility will make it easier for some to transition over to PC, and maybe this is all apart of Microsoft's grand plan to unify consoles and PC (even though they've had the staunchest stance against cross-play and cross-buy so far), but the fact remains that Xbox One is losing exclusive games. This is a fact. No amount of hopeful thinking or excuses changes that fact.
And historically speaking, losing exclusives is never "great" for the owners of the platform that is losing those exclusives.
The whole premise of this thread is a big, fat corporate apologist circle-jerk for something that is extremely cut-and-dry: Xbox One on its own isn't cutting it, so Microsoft will be releasing their exclusives on PC as well in order to bolster their "ecosystem".
Correction: you can take your Microsoft games with you, at the cost of locking you into their ecosystem. This is something they already tried with GFWL and it didn't work. But hey, if you are pleased by the idea of yet another walled garden on PC instead of the openness and freedom that PC is known for, have fun.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
So how is the free PC version being issued then? They wouldn't be some dumb as to have it be a code would they?
Wow, bravo!!! Is MS PR team hiring new staff? You should apply...
You can compute that with
- I don't own a Xbox
- I will never buy a Xbox
- I want to buy Quantum Break on PC as did with every Remedy game but I am opposed to buying something on the Win10 Store
They will hire me?
Cross-Buy & Cross-Play
If you own a PC and an Xbox, for crossplay Multi-player games, you now have two gaming stations in your house. You can play multiplayer games together with your family and when a friend is over, one on Xbox, one on your PC. And the best part, you only had to buy the game once thanks to crossbuy.
But if you live alone with no family or any friends that come over, I can see how this doesn't help you.
For me, I have two GTX 970 gaming PCs and a Xbone. So a game like Fable Legends that has cross-play, me and two of my buddies (or son and daughter or wife) and throw down like a big lan-fest. Its great for me!
We don't have a historical precedence for this though. It hasn't been done before.
They have a theory and you have a conflicting theory. We'll see who is right in time.
And that is perfectly fine. The reason why I think it's a good thing is for future endeavors of MS products, specifically for me, the Hololens. I think it will be awesome (once they get a better FOV but that's a whole other can of worms). Hololens has already shown (via videos on youtube) that it can play the Xbox app and Stream Xbox games through it and it runs Universal Windows Apps. Now when I purchase that device, the games on it (if the Hololens can run it...I do take this into consideration, and I know that it won't be high fidelity as a PC right NOW) will be the same ones that I already purchased on my Xbox or my Windows 10 PC.
You know what I see in threads for PSVR...things like "Hopefully at E3 sony shows me good games and not demos." Well in this scenario that I described, I AT LEAST know that the games I already purchased will be playable on there so I won't have to worry about there not being anything compelling on the system before I buy it.
That's why I am excited, because this is the step into that direction (which MS has layed out for a while now).
There's scenarios in which this is good for Xbox gamers but I just wanted to give you insight in which why I'm happy. Well one point, the other is when I do upgrade my PC I have some games on it...I'll still use my xbox as it will probably be in a different room on another TV by then (right now they are both hooked up to the same tv).
SensibleSucker
Member
Indeed. It could just as easily be stated that no harm comes to xbone users. Where is the definite harm? If they only have an xbone, they definitely still get the xbox game they wanted to buy. No loss. If they have a PC, they might get a free game if their rig is powerful enough. What is also definite is the game they want to buy will definitely have greater earning potential it's market has just expanded. What is also definite is that software developers prefer making more money than less and that having a platform holder that can now offer them multiple platforms whilst retaining an exclusivity deal will please them. They will definitely look at that positively when deciding whether or not to make games for said platform holder in future.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah it's interesting for people who will buy a hololens but it's still irrelevant ine the case of the xbox owners since hololens is an independant device from the X1
you've typed a lot of words, but have made no points about anything. You can be disappointed in MS' consumer penetration, but that has nothing to do with the potential benefits provided to gamers by their current initiative.
I've listed positive impacts on all parties involved. And your response counters none of them.
Then your comment about being a PC gamers and not having as many choices to make regarding hardware, is one that I've already listed as a benefit for someone in your situation. It's also a benefit to MS, because they now have a chance to sell you software that you otherwise might never have purchased. Xbox hardware doesn't drive profits anyway.
And guess what? If you DO buy an Xbox branded game on your PC, you are now apart of that 'BS' ecosystem you just mentioned.... Their plan would have worked.
rakkadakka
Member
The only current console company I could see this being even remotely true for is Nintendo.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Except fro the xbox owner who have a gaming PC and bought the X1 for its exclusive.
If I were one I'd feel fooled.
therealbigrich
Member
Makes a lot of sense why someone that bought a X1 hoping for continual exclusives but owns a PC would be mad. All I can say to that is not every game goes on PC so if you have PC and Xbox you would be fine.
Now like your example someone that has PC, Wii U and PS4 so you would be getting X1 exclusives and games that's not on PC . So there would be no need for the Xbox and like your example your brother didn't have one and likely would not have gotten one just based of your example imo.
from my point of view I don't know whether what MS doing is a good thing or a bad thing cause all we can do is speculate. Like you said its getting crushed already by PS4 so this may not make any noticeable changes at all. Doing this may ruin the Xbox name forever to the point MS may never make another system.
That's the whole point. It is an independent device. But the software (that is applicable) I buy on it goes to the device that I want to use. It's like buying a DVD that can only play on Microsoft owned/licenced DVD players. My xbox is a DVD player, my PC is a DVD player. I can play it on both and I can own one or both devices but MS doesn't care because you are using their DVD players. Each has their benefits and disadvantages.
therealbigrich
Member
I think this thread is going so long cause just based off the name of the topic. Microsoft releasing exclusive games on PC right now is not great for all xbox owners cause not all are the same .
If you only have a Xbox one you can speculate that it will be great for you based off more investment in more games or it could hurt the Xbox brand .
If you have a PC and Xbox and now you see no reason to own a Xbox its not great for those owners .
Seems as simple as thread title change would of prevented all of the conflicting arguments lol
If you only have a Xbox one you can speculate that it will be great for you based off more investment in more games or it could hurt the Xbox brand .
If you have a PC and Xbox and now you see no reason to own a Xbox its not great for those owners .
Seems as simple as thread title change would of prevented all of the conflicting arguments lol
Pantaghana
Member
Though I don't remember people complaining that a previously PC exclusive went multiplatform, there was a lot of complaining that the games were dumbed down to work with a gamepad. Of course, wether it was "dumbing down" or "streamlining" or "modernizing" varied on which side was making the argument.
The only time PC gamers loudly complained was when instead of going multiplatform a previously PC only game went console only.