Street Fighter V |OT2| Another Fight Isn't Coming Your Way!

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Was kind of bored at work...

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Yeah training mode is how I became aware that the diagonal was the one missing. It would read as just down-forward-punch. I have to make a concentrated effort to hit that diagonal input, which is hard when you're trying to pull off the move quickly.



Easy game to learn, hard game to master, right? To get really good, you'll probably have to read lots of guides and practice a ton. You can set the CPU dummy to do lots of different moves so you can practice countering them, but once you know the basics, the best way to improve is keep playing.

I feel like this is one of the only fighting games where I can actually play most of the cast on a basic level (past just knowing their moves). I like to play random vs random against my friends and in SF4 whenever one of us fell on a land mine (like Gen) it was a bit of a downer. Last night I spent some time in training mode with every character, only stopping when I could do one of the BnB combos Bafael has up. Afterwards I did all the story stuff and made it my goal to land it in each match once, not exactly hard but it made the slog more interesting. I'm no pro with them but I'm already at the point where if I randomed any character I'd at least have something.

I was surprised how easy Cammy is to use. I think I do better in general with characters that have good mediums to combo from, which is probably why I work so well with Bison.
 
finished a few games a few minutes ago. Had a great matches with a gaffer and we were quite equal in skill.

Man, Rashid is a beast! It was the first time i've played as him and he is super noob friendly. lol.
 
There's nothing quite like comparing an 8 year old game that was iterated on and re-released 3 times to something that's been out just over a week.

Silly me for expecting a game to work as intended. Silly me for confirming it's not my connection and it's all on their end. I guess I'll just wait eight years.
 
I feel terrible at the game. I'd been playing Bison since the betas and day1, trying to get better and I made it to around 1800 points before I started having trouble, since then I've been bouncing back and forth between 1400-1800. Then the ragequitters started becoming a problem so I took it to casual.

Casual seems just as hard as ranked, but I figured it was a good opportunity to try to learn some other characters. I've been playing Necalli for maybe 3 days now and I already feel like he's much better than my Bison. My defense and anti-airs are 1000% better better since I have access to a DP. I don't spam DP on wakeup but just having it means characters have to respect the wakeup more than they do for Bison. Plus Necalli has a 3f jab that I can use to better beat tick throws or interrupt blockstrings that I can't interrupt on Bison.

It sucks because I really like Bison but I do so much worse with him. I guess I won't know for sure until I take it back into ranked.
 
Yes my Rushido works great in ranked but not elsewhere lol. I gotta work on adjusting my game plans to get better. Thanks for the matches!

No Prob! First time fighting Rashid for me, so thanks for the matchup experience. I got blown up quite a bit and realized Birdie's punch command grab up close is garbage.

Unsolicited advice ;)
I don't think you have any problem initiating offense, particularly if your opponent is pressing buttons. I think you need to figure out a way to make the opponent come to you if they play defensively like I did last night. I would work on developing a full screen game, and just try to get experience on blocking crossups. but other than that, once you're in, you're doing efficient damage consistently.
 
Silly me for expecting a game to work as intended. Silly me for confirming it's not my connection and it's all on their end. I guess I'll just wait eight years.
It's almost like you've never played an online game at launch over the last 10 years, how quaint. The issues will (hopefully) be ironed out over the next few weeks. If you don't see the insanity of comparing a brand new game 1 week after launch to one that has had 417 weeks of network tinkering I have no idea what to tell ya.
 
Since my previous deal fell through...
I have an extra Code for a Bison Battle Costume if anyone wants to trade for a Cammy or Ryu one.
 
Why do people rage quit in casual matches? I will never know...

Also, tons of frame-skipping. "Online was only having problems the first day and that they fixed them quickly" my ass.
 
Why do people rage quit in casual matches? I will never know...

Also, tons of frame-skipping. "Online was only having problems the first day and that they fixed them quickly" my ass.

If someone RQ's in casual it's cause they're actually just pissed off. You should consider these ones as greater victories than usual, at least I do. In ranked it's a 50/50 shot that they're just protecting their points. But in casual, you know that you brought the salt.
 
turns out my HRAP4 from GS doesn't have the new Hayabusa buttons and that bums me out cuz I canceled my Amazon preorder and it turns out they have the new buttons now. Guess I'll reorder with them for fighters and just keep the OG HRAP4 for my PC shmups. GS return policy kinda blows.
 
Is there a good newbies guide to Gief? I haven't had a chance to play much this week but i want to dive into learning him tonight.
 
For anyone who missed them last night!
Links to all the pages I scanned from "Street Fighter V: A Visionary Book" - A 64 page hard cover from the Japanese CE "Vital Volcanic" box that details the development and design of SFV including costume ideas, abandoned concepts & stages, interviews, character and relationship bios and more.

I just scanned a few pages with duckroll's permission in hopes that some kind gaffers would translate some of the pages if there's any cool or relevant info to be had. If not, well at least its something cool to look that. lol

bakfromon, must be a gaffer?, over on the Shoryuken forums was cool enough to translate or at least get some information out of a few pages. Info he got from the Relationship chart:
  • Karin's section contains her gardener Kozuki, her housekeeper Ishizaki, and her butler Shibasaki.
  • Karin is Birdie's "employer" and he is her "associate".
  • Birdie was once a part of Shadaloo and former subordinate of Fang
  • Shadaloo contain's Bison, Fang, Vega, Balrog, Dolls, and Ed.
  • Balrog hates both Vega and Fang
  • Fang greatly respects Bison
  • Dolls are Bison's subordinates
  • Cammy wants to save the Dolls
  • Delta Red members are listed next to Cammy (Keith Wolfman, Lita Luwanda, Matthew McCoy, George Ginzu)
  • The yellow box below Chun is labeled Air Force.
  • The names listed are Guile, Sawada (SF:TM?), David, and Tailor (Guile is Tailor's boss).
  • They were former colleagues of Nash.
  • Guile is related to the Masters Family (Ken).
  • M.Bison killed Nash.
  • M Bison killed Chun father? (it's asking the question)
  • Juri is under M.Bison and she hates him
  • Helen is under Nash with a question asking "revive?"
  • Below the yellow box are the names C.Viper and S. Raven with the group of Rashid, Cammy, Chun, and Nash being labeled as Anti Shadaloo.
  • Below Rashid is Azam, he views him like a grandfather.
  • Azam worries about Rashid.
  • Azam is an old friend of Zangief, he's also acquainted with Laura's Grandfather Kinjiro Matsuda.
  • CWA members are Zalazof and Colt (Biff and Gunloc from Slammasters).
  • IJWPW (International Japanese Women's Pro Wrestling) members are Yamato Nadeshiko, and Yoko Harmegeddon.
  • Mika looks up to Gief.
  • Gief is acquainted with Laura.
  • THawk and Hugo are listed in the box with Mika Gief and Laura.
  • This box is labeled "Throwing Friends" (Wrestling Buddies).
  • Matsuda's have their own box.
  • Laura is Sean's unbelievably scary sister.
  • Sean is Laura's adorable brother.
  • Family members are Kinjiro, Yuichiro, Brenda, and Fabio (Sean's and Laura's other brother)
  • Masters Family contain's Ken, Eliza, and Mel
  • Ken trained with Ryu under Gouken
  • Gouken trained with Gouki and under Goutetsu (轟鉄 canon kanji spelling "Roaring Iron")
  • Gouki kills Goutetsu
  • Necalli has a question asking "Searching for strong warriors?" (I'm not sure if this is right)
  • Names listed to the left of Necalli are; Fei Long (cinematography), Dee Jay (recording), and Blanka (filial piety "loyal to his mom")
  • Dhalsim's section is listed "Curry Lovers"
  • Oro is acquainted with Sim
  • Sally is Sim's wife, and Datta is his son
  • The police officers name is Mahesh
  • Kodaru is listed next to Dhalsim's name. I'm not sure who that is (his elephant maybe?)
  • Karin is searching for Oro to fight
  • Karin is friends with Sakura, Ibuki, and Elena
  • Dan thinks Sakura is his student
  • Dan hates Sagat because he killed his father
  • E.Honda and Hakan are listed below Dan in a yellow box marked "Looking for new disciples & A Gourmet Journey"
  • Sakura looks up to Ryu
  • Sagat is Ryu's rival and former member of the Four Kings
  • Adon is Sagat's former student and he hates him
  • Ryu respects Dhalsim

Early Concepts and Prototypes including Ryu's "Satsui No Hado" scarred look and Psycho Powered Dictator?
This depiction of Ryu would have overcome being Evil Ryu and SnH, while Bison is wearing a power suit to strengthen his weakening body and amplify his Psycho Power.

  • The old guy in the top left is some sort of scientist that is described as giving "psychological damage", but developers didn't think this would be viable in a fighting game.
  • The boy with a soccer ball in the top right was the original concept of the new Brazilian character, but they thought the design of a soccer playing fighter was something too close to Robert Miura from Rival Schools.
  • The blonde guy in the white suit is labeled "The President" of a certain country.
  • The "Yeti" was an early phase for Necalli.

Seems like the scientist and other characters in the bottom right who are described as "assassins" likely made up to be what is now F.A.N.G.
 
Silly me for expecting a game to work as intended. Silly me for confirming it's not my connection and it's all on their end. I guess I'll just wait eight years.

Everyone wishes it worked better. You'd get more sympathy if you werent so emo about it
 
turns out my HRAP4 from GS doesn't have the new Hayabusa buttons and that bums me out cuz I canceled my Amazon preorder and it turns out they have the new buttons now. Guess I'll reorder with them for fighters and just keep the OG HRAP4 for my PC shmups. GS return policy kinda blows.
Do those buttons really make such a difference? I just got a HRAP4 myself. It's my first stick and have yet to try it out, but what makes some buttons better then others?
 
turns out my HRAP4 from GS doesn't have the new Hayabusa buttons and that bums me out cuz I canceled my Amazon preorder and it turns out they have the new buttons now. Guess I'll reorder with them for fighters and just keep the OG HRAP4 for my PC shmups. GS return policy kinda blows.

Just get some sanwa buttons. They are pretty cheap and I switched mine out in 5 minutes.
 
Well I found the rage quitters, it's getting really bad for me in Super Silver. Just had a Mika named _Thanos_ rage quit on me twice in the last hour or so and half my wins have disappeared into the ether. I need to start recording videos so I can do proper callouts.

I hope whatever plan Capcom has for rage quitters works retroactively. Wanna see people with exceptionally high DC rates get dropped back down to rookie. But I don't trust Capcom enough to even have the ability to check that.
 
But yeah, jokes aside LUCKY n WILD definitely ragequit on me. He stopped touching his buttons when it was clear I was gonna win then disconnected.
 
Well I found the rage quitters, it's getting really bad for me in Super Silver. Just had a Mika named _Thanos_ rage quit on me twice in the last hour or so and half my wins have disappeared into the ether. I need to start recording videos so I can do proper callouts.

I hope whatever plan Capcom has for rage quitters works retroactively. Wanna see people with exceptionally high DC rates get dropped back down to rookie. But I don't trust Capcom enough to even have the ability to check that.

are you on PS4? click the Share button and Save Video Clip. it should save the past 15 min automatically.
 
More like Capcom don't make a broken ass online lol. If I've RQed 5 times I've had it happen to me at least 50+ times. Idgaf because it was just for the sake of getting the dumb silver trophy and to be done with playing Bison.

I'm back to getting bodied by people as my Vega and rightfully so.

A) Didn't deny it B) Not continuing it. Caught or not. I had no intentions to keep doing it.

LOL. This is tantamount to blaming gun manufacturers for gun deaths.

I've RQ 0 times cause I'm not a piece of shit.
 
Okay no BS...
I need extreme help with Karin in the recovery/wake up game.
This is getting serious. I can't remember the last time I won a match...

People have wised up to Rasenha and shut it down with a jab. Mid combo, timing slightly off... Nope. Jabbed out. Fuck.
So back to playing footsies, fine, but the second I get knocked down, fuck it, game over for me.

If I block back, I get thrown into the corner.
If I I block low I get jump kicked into oblivion.
If I attempt EX Rassenha it seems like there is a 20% chance the game doesn't register a move at all and I get crush countered.
If I spam jab I get crush countered.
If I spam l.MK I get jabbed to death...
Rassenha? Nope, jabbed out.

I feel I've hit a Super Bronze wall dammit... And I want to go to Ultra Bronze. And I refuse to use the GootecksShimmy Method ™.


I'm running out of ideas here...
As a former Ken player, you dont always wake up DP, but the fear of it is always there... Karin seems like she has nothing that anyone would fear in wake up...
What am I missing?
 
But yeah, jokes aside LUCKY n WILD definitely ragequit on me. He stopped touching his buttons when it was clear I was gonna win then disconnected.

Ran in to LUCKY n WILD in ranked. GGs, but I guess the connection was lost near the end?

:O

Wrote some basic guidelines on how to play Dhalsim over in the other thread, for those interested. Includes some simple pointers on how to fight against him too.

Awesome. You and Cindi are doing a great job in that thread. Keep it coming!
 
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