manfestival
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Persona 4: Dancing All Night is awful
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Iriscomeback
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Yeah the story mode is pretty much garbage. I just played through it to unlock the extra characters.
It's a pretty good rhythm game I think. Not as good as the Project Diva games, but still very enjoyable.
Song selection could be better, way too many remixes. DLC songs make up for that, those are the best.
It's a pretty good rhythm game I think. Not as good as the Project Diva games, but still very enjoyable.
Song selection could be better, way too many remixes. DLC songs make up for that, those are the best.
TheMrPliskin
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I loved it, was my second favourite game of last year and have sunk over 100 hours into it across the Japanese and EU release. The story was far better than the other spin-off games, the music was great, it was fun to play and the presentation is top notch. It has issues for sure but those issues never bothered me.
feint_ruled
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I got off to a slow start with it, but loved it in the end. The problem is the story is very slow to get going, and you can't go higher than "normal" in difficulty. Normal difficulty in this is pure snooze mode, I literally fell asleep in the middle of one song and woke up at the end and was still able to recover it.
However, once you just do the free mode and move up to hard, I found it loads more satisfying. And the music is damn funky.
I am no rhythm game connosieur or have any knowledge of musical theory, so I cannot speak to the quality of its charting.
However, once you just do the free mode and move up to hard, I found it loads more satisfying. And the music is damn funky.
I am no rhythm game connosieur or have any knowledge of musical theory, so I cannot speak to the quality of its charting.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
I bought it on release and the story mode turned me off HARD.
Is the club mix of Burn My Dread available?
Is the club mix of Burn My Dread available?
Most imporant question tho, when do we get P3AN?
We should just get Theatrhythm Persona. Screw dancers, just give me chibi figures or videos from the games and hundreds of songs.
Yabberwocky
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One thing I will say for it is that Dance! is catchy as hell.
...in fact, I'm pretty sure they play it in the waiting room in hell. I spent three months with it playing in my head.
...in fact, I'm pretty sure they play it in the waiting room in hell. I spent three months with it playing in my head.
I don't get the hate for the songs, did ya'll play without sound? There are some really amazing ones in there, like Backside of the TV and Heaven.
Most imporant question tho, when do we get P3
This. So. Much. And the jazzy version of Signs Of Love.
Lollipop Dave
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I enjoyed it for what it is, a mediocre rhythm game.
Some of the remixes were absolutely terrible imo, like Shadow World. They butchered the best song.
Some of the remixes were absolutely terrible imo, like Shadow World. They butchered the best song.
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
The story is terrible but I enjoyed it as a rhythm game. It's the most fun at its highest difficulty, and I think the decision to make you unlock it was a mistake - as was making you have to play through story mode for the last couple of songs.
Leaving aside that you cant skip all the new shit P4G is easily the definitive version of the game.
If you played a "little" how would the fan service have had any impact? The additional "fan service" is primarily the (literally) few seconds of hot spring stuff that people wildly over-react to is it not?
cj_iwakura
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Doesn't meant they shouldn't get called out on it. The localization team had no need to run with it, either.
Aizo
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Totally agreed. I was just surprised that you were surprised.
It's a bad Persona game and a bad rhythm game. I expected the former before it came out but I was at least hoping for a good rhythm game, since I like both Persona music and rhythm games. But nope, awful charts, awful UI, awful ranking system, awful game.
I do like most of the remixes, though. Best Friends, Snowflakes, and Time to Make History are all great.
I do like most of the remixes, though. Best Friends, Snowflakes, and Time to Make History are all great.
Saint of Killers
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I played it all the way through *purely* for the dialogue interactions. That's how much I miss the P4 crew. No regrets.
cj_iwakura
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Not so much surprised at the content, but that there wasn't more backlash.
SpacePirate Ridley
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The story is bad, but I got a chuckle or two and I was happy to see the characters again.
I beat everything on All Night mode, and the mapping is indeed terrible. Worst part of the game.
But at least I have fun playing with some of the remixes, and the character graphics are cool as heck. SO its not that bad at the end of the day.
Yup, this song is great becuase its jazz. But the charting is ATROCIOUS. One of the most difficult songs to play, and there are much faster songs in the game that feel much easier (you can put all night mode in order of difficulty, and this song is not one of the last ones). Its not that its difficult, its that it doesnt make sense with the song, making more difficult than it needs to be.
Why didnt they work with some studio that actually knows how to chart a song. I know they were with the project diva guys at the biggining, but that seems to had fallen apart.
I beat everything on All Night mode, and the mapping is indeed terrible. Worst part of the game.
But at least I have fun playing with some of the remixes, and the character graphics are cool as heck. SO its not that bad at the end of the day.
Yup, this song is great becuase its jazz. But the charting is ATROCIOUS. One of the most difficult songs to play, and there are much faster songs in the game that feel much easier (you can put all night mode in order of difficulty, and this song is not one of the last ones). Its not that its difficult, its that it doesnt make sense with the song, making more difficult than it needs to be.
Why didnt they work with some studio that actually knows how to chart a song. I know they were with the project diva guys at the biggining, but that seems to had fallen apart.
Mr. Nice_Guy
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Yeah, I was really excited for the remixes, but as they released them before it came out and there was barely a single one I liked it decided to pass. All the P4 "sequels" suffered in the writing department, but at least Arena and Q had good gameplay to bolster them up. DAN just didn't look like it was doing anything special enough with the genre to intice me.
Deft Beck
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That's atrocious. Especially given that you need to basically full-combo the song on ALL NIGHT difficulty to clear the songs.
Lumines isn't really a "music game", in my mind. It's a puzzle game with a heavy music and graphics focus. Still, it's one of the best puzzle games on the Vita.
I suppose that the game's main audience didn't really care to complain.
feint_ruled
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Funny, Yakuza 5 has pretty much exactly the same character. Cross dressing, incredibly camp gay make up artist for idols. A trope, perhaps? Not that that excuses it.
flatearthpandas
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Persona Q is fucking great. The gameplay is boss, even if you do steamroll random battles with certain setups. Sure the story is not anything special but it never gets offensively stupid like P4 does. But if you find
learning to play in a band in a week and having the final boss be a random gas station attendant from the beginning of the game like this was a bad campfire story
ScriptedReality
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I liked it...just bothered me that I couldnt play with Chie as often as I wanted.
Mustang 00
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Platinumed it 3 months ago and is my first platinum (and only platinum for now). Removed the cart in place of Gundam Extreme Vs. Force last month but played it sometimes when I am at home. Now I have the cart again in my vita and my playtime is at 50 hours and I am still enjoying it.
Maybe I just love persona so damn much. I enjoy listening to the music I adore while doing something with my hands and eyes so its great for me to play in short bursts of 30 minutes. Not too much of a hardcore rhythm player but I do enjoy them casually (Play Stepmania to listen to Anime Music sometimes.)
Maybe I just love persona so damn much. I enjoy listening to the music I adore while doing something with my hands and eyes so its great for me to play in short bursts of 30 minutes. Not too much of a hardcore rhythm player but I do enjoy them casually (Play Stepmania to listen to Anime Music sometimes.)
Best thing was the dancing booth at E3 last year
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsmcIm0cQuH3xvyU12jMIPw/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsmcIm0cQuH3xvyU12jMIPw/videos
xXCrazyCostaXX
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I didn't know there was this much disappointment for this game. I actually really enjoyed it. Story wasn't the best but I found the game really fun and enjoyed the remixes. Hell I even got the platinum.
chrominance
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Modest Mauser
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That Disney Channel Original Movie
band scene
marimorimo
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Huh, I enjoyed PDAN, because I was there NOT for the story mode (seriously, people were actually expecting a good story? Even vanilla P4 doesn't have a good story, as much as I love it).
I enjoyed the rhythm game portion in Free Play Mode, best played on Hard or All Night Difficulty, with note speed set on 7.
Anything lower in difficulty doesn't feel rhythmical to play.
A solid rhythm game in a polished package with our favorite characters (and costumes!) What else could I ask for in a spinoff?
I enjoyed the rhythm game portion in Free Play Mode, best played on Hard or All Night Difficulty, with note speed set on 7.
Anything lower in difficulty doesn't feel rhythmical to play.
A solid rhythm game in a polished package with our favorite characters (and costumes!) What else could I ask for in a spinoff?
chrominance
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Wanted to circle back for this. I agree, and this is especially galling given the history of the franchise. Previous games have had a relatively nuanced, if still potentially problematic, treatment of that kind of stuff, and then Dancing All Night drops in a flamboyantly gay stereotype like a big liquid shit. Maybe it's just that no one can write thinkpieces about the dance instructor that don't just amount to "so this is dumb and bad, right? we're all on the same page? dumb and bad?"
I basically agree with a lot of these points. As for the music? I actually adore a lot of it.
cj_iwakura
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I'm guessing, like with Yakuza, the common sentiment is 'lol Japan'. I think its a problem in Yakuza, too. Consistently.
Wowfunhappy
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I kind of want to respond "Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that," but that begs the question as to why I'm posting a response at all. Vanilla P4 has a great story--it's just that said story's strength lies more in its well-written and well-developed characters than it does in the actual plot. But that's still a part of storytelling.
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
I actually just put down Persona Q and will likely not pick it back up. I also wasn't crazy about DaN, and while I liked Arena as a fighter, it's story was not great.
It seems that the numbered Persona games are God Tier, but the spin offs leave much to be desired.
It seems that the numbered Persona games are God Tier, but the spin offs leave much to be desired.
DryEyeRelief
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Yeah, I remembered your posts when saw this thread, though I didn't recall you being the author of them.
Hard to fight against the hype engine I guess.
what video?
Sumio Mondo
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Guess that's what you get when you have an RPG developer (Atlus) make a game they aren't suited for (rhythm/dance games).
I also thought the soundtrack was disappointing, tbh. Still annoyed Atlus wasted their resources making this trash.
I also thought the soundtrack was disappointing, tbh. Still annoyed Atlus wasted their resources making this trash.
SuperStiltzkin
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Yeah, I really wanted to like the remixes, but they just aren't that good.
And all these spinoff games always feel like some one-off OVA special. Only considered canon so that people will buy them.
And all these spinoff games always feel like some one-off OVA special. Only considered canon so that people will buy them.
Sumio Mondo
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Did this game bomb, btw? I hope it did so Atlus never make anything else like this again.
SoulUnison
Banned
I legitimately hated almost every single remix in the game.
Thank god I listened to the track list on YouTube before even thinking about buying it.
I don't understand how you can take such an amazing soundtrack and absolutely murder it, but maybe that's the problem? Persona 4's OST was so perfect that there was nowhere to go but down.
The intro song/animation is pretty amazing and catchy, though.
So... Basically you hit the high point of the game before you even get to the title screen.
Oh, gross.
Thank god I listened to the track list on YouTube before even thinking about buying it.
I don't understand how you can take such an amazing soundtrack and absolutely murder it, but maybe that's the problem? Persona 4's OST was so perfect that there was nowhere to go but down.
The intro song/animation is pretty amazing and catchy, though.
So... Basically you hit the high point of the game before you even get to the title screen.
I'm genuinely surprised they didn't get more backlash for the gay caricature. I think mine was the only review that mentioned it.
Oh, gross.
Sumio Mondo
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What blows my mind was that they had some incredibly talented people like Akira Yamaoka (Silent Hill, Grasshopper Manufacture composer), Norihiko Hibino (MGS3, MGS2) and Yuu Miyake (Namco Sound Team - Ridge Racer series, Tekken series) and Atlus Sound Team members like Ryoto Koduka (SMTIV OST & Persona 2 Remixes on the PSP ports) and Toshiki Konishi (Persona 2 Remixes on the PSP re-releases) work on the remixes and they botched them. Was really disappointed with the outcome, I was hoping for some more EDM in the trance/house/trippy field rather than the boring music we got.
You weren't.
And why in god's name would I go to a rhythm game for its story? That's even worse to me than wanting fighting games for their story modes. Plus, everything outside of the original P4 is garbage and worth ignoring anyhow because Atlus keeps insisting that it all has to be canon.
As a music/rhythm game, I don't know, I had a lot of fun with it. I think the gameplay is fun (much better than Superbeat XONIC which a lot of people recently liked and I don't understand why), and I was surprised at how much I thought the Persona music actually worked with the idea. Plus, visuals are fantastic.
There's serious music/rhythm games and then the goofy side-project music/rhythm games, and as part of the latter category, I thought P4D was a really nice surprise. *shrugs*
Shotgun Kiss
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I started playing Persona 4 Dancing yesterday, and I'm glad this thread exists; I was wondering if it gets any better, but apparently not.
So far I hate all the new characters (except Rise's manager; he's OK, just not detestable like all the idols), and the story is moving at a fucking snail's pace. I played for about two and a half hours, and I'd say the story I've seen so far could have been condensed into 30 minutes. I fucking love the story in Persona 4 and didn't mind the long setup in that, but the story here is crap so far.
The actual gameplay is nothing special whatsoever. Not particularly good, and not particularly bad. It's adequate.
Honestly, I'd be fine if it had a poor story but great gameplay, or a great story, but poor gameplay. But this excels in neither.
Guess I'm selling it, and maybe if I'm bored at work one day, I'll watch a playthrough of the story.
So far I hate all the new characters (except Rise's manager; he's OK, just not detestable like all the idols), and the story is moving at a fucking snail's pace. I played for about two and a half hours, and I'd say the story I've seen so far could have been condensed into 30 minutes. I fucking love the story in Persona 4 and didn't mind the long setup in that, but the story here is crap so far.
The actual gameplay is nothing special whatsoever. Not particularly good, and not particularly bad. It's adequate.
Honestly, I'd be fine if it had a poor story but great gameplay, or a great story, but poor gameplay. But this excels in neither.
Guess I'm selling it, and maybe if I'm bored at work one day, I'll watch a playthrough of the story.
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