Super Tuesday 2016 |OT| The Final Incursion is a double Incursion (Mar 5-15 contests)
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Poodlestrike
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SaviourMK2
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I still like my shirt. Hillary will have my support. Secretly hoping for a VP nominee at least
Totally anecdotal, but I know 2 such people. I argued with them about it so I hope I talked them down but who knows.
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Would a Clinton/Bernie ticket work?
BigJonsson
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WooHooAlex
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I know most are pulling against Rubio, but I'm proud of my state (Minnesota) for not voting Cruz or Trump, and it's looking like Bernie is going to win here too!
Bernie!
Bernie!
perfectchaos007
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Looking at the county by county election map of Texas I noticed that the counties trump did the best in were Mexican border counties. Interesting
The guy that wants to defund Medicare, Medicaid, and most Social programs. That says we are "entitled to nothing."
Nah.
superdeluxe
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Glad that didn't drag out all night.
Crimson_Gold
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Probably not. The VP will likely be from a swing state and likely a minority
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Honestly really don't think so but then what do I know. I would assume she would go for someone younger and a minority.
He's too old. She should choose someone with liberal cred but younger, perhaps Latino even?
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LOL Rubio HQ there's nobody there.
Prodigal Son
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Um. It wasn't a must win. It factually wasn't. No polls indicated it was anything like a must win.
plagiarize
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Well done. Your state voted for a guy who's positions only marginally worse than Cruz's, and measurably worse than Trumps.
And_Gignac
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None of them would want such ticket. Bernie would undermine his message and Clinton needs young fresh blood. If it didnt happen with Obama/Clinton, it wont happen this time around.
Is Biden? Does it have an age restriction?
Rumor floating around right now.
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I wouldn't expect it. Clinton will pick somebody younger than her. It usually hasn't been necessary for campaigns to pick their closest primary rival for VP. 2008 was pretty contentious as well, but Obama didn't need to pick Clinton for VP to bridge the divide.
There might be a cabinet position in it for Sanders, though.
In Obama's case, an older VP was chosen to offset concerns about Obama's age and experience.
dynamitejim
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I don't think Bernie would even want it. The VP has to have their messaging in sync with the POTUS' agenda and I don't think he could keep quiet if there was something he didn't agree with.
Chie Satonaka
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I mean, fuck it, he's still better than Trump.
And you know he's right.
#FU2016
Really I just want to watch House of Cards.
No - he's too old and doesn't do much to help in any of the swing states.
He'd be over 80 by the end of Hillary's second term. From an actuarial standpoint, there's a better than even chance he'll be dead by then (sorry to be so morbid). So no, there's not an age restriction, but Hillary will almost certainly choose someone a lot younger and from a swing state.
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It was a heavily white, heavily liberal New England state.
Yes, it was a must win for Bernie on optics alone.
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There's no age restriction. Sanders is only about a year older than Biden.
Tesseract
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I think she was up in the most recent polls; the win mostly matters for symbolic value though - MA is considered by many to be the center of left-wing / liberal power in the country - home to politicians like Elizabeth Warren, the Kennedys, etc., combined with lots of money and political and academic influence (e.g. Harvard), and a pretty long history of being at the forefront of movements like same-sex marriage, etc. - even though it occasionally elects Republican politicians like Mitt Romney. A Sanders victory would have been a nice stamp of approval from the liberal power base, even if numbers-wise it wouldn't help with the delegate math much; conversely, even though Hillary barely won, she can still claim a victory among traditional "liberals."
He's a newbie but Joaquin Castro from Texas fits that bill. Definitely an up and comer.
plagiarize
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It was a should win. If he was on pace to win the nomination, people projected that he'd need to win MA by 11 points.
A lot of people were specifically looking at MA as a very important state today for good reason. The Clintons were all over the state the last two days for good reason.
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Let's bring America Works back.
Mercury Fred
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Nope. Sanders spent a ton there and said they were going to win it.
The Albatross
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That would make it very difficult for an upstart/grassroots politician to make an impact. Obama likely wouldn't have been nominated in 2008 if he had to go from being a 1-term senator to having to run a national campaign over night.
The primaries start with small states because it allows for effective local campaigns to be run, and then Super Tuesday is a moderating factor to see if the candidates who succeed in local campaigns can also run a pseudo-national campaign.
This has played out especially in Iowa over the last several Republican caucuses, where Mike Huckabee (2008), Rick Santorum (2012), and Ted Cruz (2016) won, all candidates who ran good, strong targeted campaigns in Iowa but proved to have little national momentum outside of the state... Many of whom lost all momentum a week later in New Hampshire, and none of whom performed well nationally on Super Tuesday.
Brainfreeze
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Honest question.
What would be the benefit of Sanders dropping out right now? Every thread we have people reiterating that he's hopeless, should just give up, drop out, it's impossible to win, etc. But what benefit would it have for him, for voters, for democrats, or anyone, if he just dropped out? Aren't we seeing him push Hilary and is democratic peers to better places?
He's never really been focused on attacks, so I don't really think he's hurting Hilary's image in all of this. And even the few things he may get aggressive about, it's not like the socialist's complaints are going to be fuel for the Republicans.
I don't know, I just don't understand why people always talk down to those with hope or enthusiasm for Sanders in these threads. Seems like a positive effect the longer he stays in to me.
What would be the benefit of Sanders dropping out right now? Every thread we have people reiterating that he's hopeless, should just give up, drop out, it's impossible to win, etc. But what benefit would it have for him, for voters, for democrats, or anyone, if he just dropped out? Aren't we seeing him push Hilary and is democratic peers to better places?
He's never really been focused on attacks, so I don't really think he's hurting Hilary's image in all of this. And even the few things he may get aggressive about, it's not like the socialist's complaints are going to be fuel for the Republicans.
I don't know, I just don't understand why people always talk down to those with hope or enthusiasm for Sanders in these threads. Seems like a positive effect the longer he stays in to me.
Tranqueris
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And the persecution complex just kicked in..
I think he is; I think he's a compromising person at heart, especially when you hear about him talk about Obama. Plus Hillary is flopping her policies to cover Sanders' goals anyways.
Chie Satonaka
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I keep hearing Julian Castro.
I love me some HoC but I'd take West Wing S8 w/ Aaron Sorkin writing over HoC any day.
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