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[Kangi]

It warms the cockles of my heart that Rubio was tonight's biggest loser. Since Bernie won some kind of moral victory by doing better than his worst case scenario.

Maybe he should insult people's penises more. That seemed to work for Minnesota.

 

[Slackerish]

Of course not, let it slide, didn't make a difference, etc etc etc

If you feel like it is an issue, find MA Dem's Party primary rules and inform them if it is not allowed.

 

[Damaniel]

Ok! So I guess the Republicans are in denial mode hoping Ted/Rubio will win in the end?

Well, Rubio did win a state, so Marcomentum is in full effect.

But yeah, the non-establishment candidate is whipping the establishment all over the place. The RNC is probably shitting their pants behind the scenes.

 

[Sectorseven]

Where are those sweet sweet Alaska results?

 

[TheRealTalker]

Wow, bottom right corner, Barack got elected President of the world!

that was his plan all along

exists the white house while everything goes to shit.... becomes President of the world and then builds a wall all around the US with a dome on top

 

[Josh5890]

Sander's path has to rely on not losing in Ohio, Illinois, Missouri, Florida by huge margins and go on a streak from 3/22-4/19. He wants to try to gain delegates as time goes on, and he has the money to last a while and apparently the base that will fund him. There are 35 more states left and if he can win 10-20 delegates in many of them, he can eventually catch up, and at the very least last until the convention. At that point, he has already won on the message front, but not the nomination.

It is a good write up but the super-delegates alone will be the end for Sanders. It won't be close at all.

 

[MartyStu]

Well, Rubio did win a state, so Marcomentum is in full effect.

But yeah, the non-establishment candidate is whipping the establishment all over the place. The RNC is probably shitting their pants behind the scenes.

But in the worst way possible since it rewards delegates proportionally.

 

[TyrantII]

Clinton really can do no wrong according to HillaryGaf, huh? Everything is hand-waved away.

Please proceed GAFer

 

[Poodlestrike]

that was his plan all along

exists the white house while everything goes to shit.... becomes President of the world and then builds a wall all around the US with a dome on top

A dome... of Barak.

#SuperAllah

 

[eyeball_kid]

To be fair Bernie has been a part of the legislative branch of government longer than your average gaffer has been alive. It's strange that people argue he has no experience. He's pretty stacked if you ask me. Unfortunately experience, networking and history with minorities is something he definitely lacks compared to Clinton. No doubt about that.

I know what you're saying, but it's ironic when Bernie getting arrested for protesting during the civil rights movement is not counted as "history with minorities".

 

[MrDaravon]

Clinton really can do no wrong according to HillaryGaf, huh? Everything is hand-waved away.

As has already been pointed out repeatedly here, this is only a violation if this was an election, doesn't apply to primaries (unless someone dredges up a different rulebook or something). I agree it's in poor taste but man people are thirsty for anything they can get on both sides aren't they.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

https://twitter.com/colincornaby/status/704875956628955137

💀💀💀

Savage

 

[metalslimer]

It is a good write up but the super-delegates alone will be the end for Sanders. It won't be close at all.

Yep. At this point unless he needs to blow Hilary out in some states to and start running the table to get super delegates to change their mind. Losing 4 important states and barely winning states past that won't even get him close

 

[Movement]

I know what you're saying, but it's ironic when Bernie getting arrested for protesting during the civil rights movement is not counted as "history with minorities".

Didn't seem to matter much based on those margins.

 

[TheRealTalker]

A dome... of Barak.

#SuperAllah

#Should've listened before it was too late

the dome will also have a crescent on top.... Super Mosque of America

 

[border]

So what is Bernie Sanders' path to victory now? Or even a path to a rough tie? Of the primaries between now and March 16, the only one where Clinton doesn't have an ironclad lead in the polls is Ohio. She is pretty much expected to win Michigan, Florida, Illinois, and North Carolina.

 

[pigeon]

I do think it's a bit annoying that after years of reading GAFers lament about the fact that socialism etc isn't taken seriously, that there's such a large group that feels very threatened by Sanders's campaign and are eager for him to drop out. I mean, if I remember correctly, Bernie Sanders was very popular here before his campaign for President. I first learned about him on GAF. It was kind of disappointing to realize that a lot of the policially engaged GAFers are so strongly against his candidacy.

It's probably a mistake to imagine that GAF is one mind, and it's probably worth thinking harder about the fact that so many GAFfers who focus on politics don't think Bernie can win or that he's the best choice for advancing progressive/socialist politics.

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

It is a good write up but the super-delegates alone will be the end for Sanders. It won't be close at all.

That's true, but if he has more pledged delegates going into a convention, then he has a really big point to make. Long story short, this is going until June probably, as long as he continues to have funding.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Nah. Bernie did better than expected. Still a long shot, but no need to misrepresent what actually went down.

Debatable and even if true Clinton did even better than better than expected.

Sanders decision to not try to narrow the South votes is looking costly.

 

[knicks]

It's really hard watching Wolf Blitzer repeat the same things for seven hours. I don't know how he does it, I give him credit.

 

[Maitiú]

Let's take minimum wage for example. Sanders says 15. Clinton says 12.5 I think.
Now republicans will oppose both and dems will have to compromise. If you start from 15 you might get 12. If ask for 12.5 you will get 10.

I'm against a $15 federal minimum wage, as are most economists on both sides of the political spectrum, but here's my concern with this tactic: if Sanders starts on the extreme end of things on every issue, he is painted as an extremist, and the Republican party looks reasonable, realistic and responsible, and he looks the opposite. Look how the reasonable ACA damaged Obama and the Democratic party; now imagine what a universal coverage single payer proposal would do.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

as sad as it is i actually can't wait for bernie to drop out as im finding some of his supporters more insufferable as his chances fall. i appreciate him pulling hillary more left but i think it would be more beneficial to unite as a party at least fairly soon

the sheer hope is kind of nice, but ignoring the math and throwing anti-clinton shit to wall to see if something sticks, is unbecoming

 

[Chie Satonaka]

https://twitter.com/colincornaby/status/704875956628955137

💀💀💀

Jesus fucking Christ.

This is the savagery that makes me love Twitter.

 

[metalslimer]

So what is Bernie Sanders' path to victory now? Or even a path to a rough tie? Of the primaries between now and March 16, the only one where Clinton doesn't have an ironclad lead in the polls is Ohio. She is pretty much expected to win Michigan, Florida, Illinois, and North Carolina.

Clinton going to jail

 

[Zophar]

I'm against a $15 federal minimum wage, as are most economists on both sides of the political spectrum, but here's my concern with this tactic: if Sanders starts on the extreme end of things on every issue, he is painted as an extremist, and the Republican party looks reasonable, realistic and responsible, and he looks the opposite. Look how the reasonable ACA damaged Obama and the Democratic party; now imagine what a universal coverage single payer proposal would do.

ACA hasn't damaged the Democratic party at all, though? It's the crowning achievement of the Obama admin and the major reason he coasted into re-election in 2012.

 

[MThanded]

So what is Bernie Sanders' path to victory now? Or even a path to a rough tie? Of the primaries between now and March 16, the only one where Clinton doesn't have an ironclad lead in the polls is Ohio. She is pretty much expected to win Michigan, Florida, Illinois, and North Carolina.

If this goes until June it's probably bad for the democrats.

Trumps presser tonight showed him putting his sights on Hillary. So he's making the switch early.

 

[1st Course]

Is there any big states (100+ votes) where Bernie is projected to win?

 

[shinra-bansho]

That's true, but if he has more pledged delegates going into a convention, then he has a really big point to make. Long story short, this is going until June probably, as long as he continues to have funding.

There is no path forward that involves losing places like Ohio, Florida, Illinois, North Carolina, Michigan. Places she's polling ahead.

I mean if you want to compare to Clinton staying in, in 08, sure she stayed in even though it was mathematically improbable to win. But she won Ohio and Texas and Pennsylvania following Barack Obama's delegate lead accumulation; she managed to cut down his pledged delegate lead from 100 to 60, winning these big states and a bunch of other primaries.

And I don't particularly mind him staying in to promote his message or whatever, but a 200 delegate lead isn't going to be eaten away by a win in Kansas.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Sander's path has to rely on not losing in Ohio, Illinois, Missouri, Florida by huge margins and go on a streak from 3/22-4/19. He wants to try to gain delegates as time goes on, and he has the money to last a while and apparently the base that will fund him. There are 35 more states left and if he can win 10-20 delegates in many of them, he can eventually catch up, and at the very least last until the convention. At that point, he has already won on the message front, but not the nomination.

I'm stoked for all this down the stretch. Going to be fun to see if Bernie can pull it out. Would love it if he did.

 

[GYODX]

As has already been pointed out repeatedly here, this is only a violation if this was an election, doesn't apply to primaries (unless someone dredges up a different rulebook or something). I agree it's in poor taste but man people are thirsty for anything they can get on both sides aren't they.

Then you have the whole email thing, for which she is actually under federal investigation, and again, Hillary fanboys hand-wave it away.

Don't get me wrong; I prefer Hillary a 1000x over Trump, but it is honestly not hard to see why so many Bernie supporters are threatening to stay home or even switch to Trump in a Hillary v Trump GE when such a vocal portion of Hillary supporters are such huge, condescending pricks.

You can't welcome the fact that Bernie's campaign has attracted a crowd of young new voters to politics, and simultaneously alienate that very crowd with your smug condescension.

 

[whitehawk]

Aaand Trump is leading alaska

 

[BanGy.nz]

The GOP waited too long to try and stop Trump and now they're about to pay. Both the Tea Party and Trump are monster of their own creation, the rhetoric they've employed, the devision and fear they've fostered over the decades is coming back to haunt them.

ACA hasn't damaged the Democratic party at all, though? It's the crowning achievement of the Obama admin and the major reason he coasted into re-election in 2012.

They paid dearly in the 2010 midterms.

 

[Officerrob]

Is there any big states (100+ votes) where Bernie is projected to win?

Not currently. The problem is he needs to not just win a couple big states, he needs to dominate a couple big states

 

[boiled goose]

If this goes until June it's probably bad for the democrats.

Trumps presser tonight showed him putting his sights on Hillary. So he's making the switch early.

Nah. If the math becomes insurmountable for Sander but he stays in the race, then just focus on the contrast with republicans. democrats have facts on their side. information is good.

I'm against a $15 federal minimum wage, as are most economists on both sides of the political spectrum, but here's my concern with this tactic: if Sanders starts on the extreme end of things on every issue, he is painted as an extremist, and the Republican party looks reasonable, realistic and responsible, and he looks the opposite. Look how the reasonable ACA damaged Obama and the Democratic party; now imagine what a universal coverage single payer proposal would do.

Here is what you and Obama never understood.
THEY WILL ALWAYS CALL YOU UNREASONABLE!!!

Did you learn nothing from Obama's first term. Have you not seen congress today? Have you not seen the proposals from the Rep candidates???

Cmon son. It's time to learn that lesson already.

 

[Maintenance]

Aaand Trump is leading alaska

Finally some numbers, I was getting tired of waiting.

 

[Piecake]

Then you have the whole email thing, for which she is actually under federal investigation, and again, Hillary fanboys hand-wave it away.

Don't get me wrong; I prefer Hillary a 1000x over Trump, but it is honestly not hard to see why so many Bernie supporters are threatening to stay home or even switch to Trump in a Hillary v Trump GE when such a vocal portion of Hillary supporters are such huge, condescending pricks.

What was your take on Bernie's campaign stealing Clinton's proprietary polling data? I am honestly curious.

 

[BrutishMrFish]

Then you have the whole email thing, for which she is actually under federal investigation, and again, Hillary fanboys hand-wave it away.

Don't get me wrong; I prefer Hillary a 1000x over Trump, but it is honestly not hard to see why so many Bernie supporters are threatening to stay home or even switch to Trump in a Hillary v Trump GE when such a vocal portion of Hillary supporters are such huge, condescending pricks.

As a Bernie supporter, I say this: you're kidding yourself if you think that the term "BernieBro" came to be for some other reason than the fact that a vocal group of his supporters were being assholes themselves.

 

[MartyStu]

Then you have the whole email thing, for which she is actually under federal investigation, and again, Hillary fanboys hand-wave it away.

Don't get me wrong; I prefer Hillary a 1000x over Trump, but it is honestly not hard to see why so many Bernie supporters are threatening to stay home or even switch to Trump in a Hillary v Trump GE when such a vocal portion of Hillary supporters are such huge, condescending pricks.

None of this is helpful Like, at all.

And Bernie supporters voting for Trump were hipsters that never cared about policy at all and just wanted to be part of whatever movement suited their fancy.

It takes a very special sort of myopia to renounce all your political positions out of spite.

 

[SolarPowered]

I know what you're saying, but it's ironic when Bernie getting arrested for protesting during the civil rights movement is not counted as "history with minorities".

Yeah, I really don't know what to say to that either.

 

[royalan]

I know what you're saying, but it's ironic when Bernie getting arrested for protesting during the civil rights movement is not counted as "history with minorities".

I can't remember the specific article, but there was an article in the lead-up to the NC primary that had a quote from a Hillary voter on why he didn't care about Bernie Sanders history with the civil rights movement, and I think his response sums up the general lack of fucks given by the black community. It was something like this:

"Why should I care that Bernie Sanders marched with King. If I want to see a civil rights hero, all I have to do is walk down the street."

And it's a good point. Marching with King is nothing special to us because our community is flooded with people who've done their part with the struggle. It was OUR struggle, after all. And it's not in any way indicative that you understand the black community today and our issues. In short, you don't get a cookie.

Marching with King is only a big deal if you're white.

 

[border]

If this goes until June it's probably bad for the democrats.

The general argument is that a long primary season is bad because it leaves the winner beaten, bruised, and depleted of funds. But Clinton has already shifted her focus to the general election -- she doesn't have to spend money fighting off Sanders because she is pretty much guaranteed the nomination. Sanders can keep pushing until May/June, but he is consistently losing ground with every round of primaries. The only danger in an extended primary season is that Clinton will have less time to convince Sanders fans to come to her side, but so many of those Bernie lovers are unreliable voters anyway....

 

[User 463088]

Is there any big states (100+ votes) where Bernie is projected to win?

The only one I can come up with is Washington on March 26th, although there is no polling. I can't imagine he won't do well there and it's worth 101 delegates.

However, we have the following coming up:

Michigan (130)= polling has Hillary by 20
Florida (214)=polling has Hillary by 28
Illinois (156)=polling has Hillary by 20
North Carolina (107)=polling has Hillary by 20
Ohio (143)=polling has Hillary by anywhere from 7-15 on average.

So, it's going to get a hell of a lot worse before he has a chance to try and come back.

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

There is no path forward that involves losing places like Ohio, Florida, Illinois, North Carolina, Michigan. Places she's polling ahead.

I mean if you want to compare to Clinton staying in, in 08, sure she stayed in even though it was mathematically improbable to win. But she won Ohio and Texas and Pennsylvania following Barack Obama's delegate lead accumulation; she managed to cut down his pledged delegate lead from 100 to 60, winning these big states.

And I don't particularly mind him staying in to promote his message or whatever, but a 200 delegate lead isn't going to be eaten away by a win in Kansas.

At this point, that's why I'm happy about getting Colorado and Minnesota. He has more of a chance to get his message out, Hillary has continuously been coming closer to Hillary, and hes also going into more states that he can try to eat away at her lead. This race is a different race, on both sides. One thing that I have thought would happen is, Trump would turn his sites after winning huge tonight, to focusing on Hillary. That might break some of her votes off to Sanders if he can pitch that he is a better candidate against him. We will see. I'm definitely not saying he is getting the nomination, though, but there are a lot of weird factors at play right now.

 

[MThanded]

Then you have the whole email thing, for which she is actually under federal investigation, and again, Hillary fanboys hand-wave it away.

Don't get me wrong; I prefer Hillary a 1000x over Trump, but it is honestly not hard to see why so many Bernie supporters are threatening to stay home or even switch to Trump in a Hillary v Trump GE when such a vocal portion of Hillary supporters are such huge, condescending pricks.

You can't welcome the fact that Bernie's campaign has attracted a crowd of young new voters to politics, and simultaneously alienate that very crowd with your smug condescension.

If they are threatening to switch to trump then they clearly don't care about the issues.

 

[SolarPowered]

I'm against a $15 federal minimum wage, as are most economists on both sides of the political spectrum, but here's my concern with this tactic: if Sanders starts on the extreme end of things on every issue, he is painted as an extremist, and the Republican party looks reasonable, realistic and responsible, and he looks the opposite. Look how the reasonable ACA damaged Obama and the Democratic party; now imagine what a universal coverage single payer proposal would do.

Blue dogs did more damage to Obama and the party than the ACA did.

 

[metalslimer]

Any Bernie supporter threatening to vote trump deserves to be ridiculed because they obviously never had a coherent thought process on why they were voting for him in the first place. And to be quite honest. Fuck them and their privilege that they can protest vote a candidate that will damage minority communities for decades and they won't feel a thing.

 

[aspiegamer]

Ben Carson has officially won an Alaskan district! The 6,080 fine people of Bethel (and surrounding) have made the power of the voice of the 9th-largest city in the state heard!

 

[MartyStu]

The GOP waited too long to try and stop Trump and now they're about to pay. Both the Tea Party and Trump are monster of their own creation, the rhetoric they've employed, the devision and fear they've fostered over the decades is coming back to haunt them.

They paid dearly in the 2010 midterms.

They have paid dearly during every election since it was passed.

 

[And_Gignac]

Debatable and even if true Clinton did even better than better than expected.

Sanders decision to note try to narrow the South votes is looking costly.

This is why is difficult to take him seriously as something more than a message candidate. He is really not trying as hard as he should to court other demos with messages that resonate with them. He is really stuck in poor talking points about race, for instance.

I dont know, expanding his message wont compromise his core one, but he seems to not be willing to do so.

 

[Afrocious]

Any Bernie supporter threatening to vote trump deserves to be ridiculed because they obviously never had a coherent thought process on why they were voting for him in the first place.

+1

People spite-voting for Trump are oblivious to what the dude represents.