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[danm999]

Purple is barack. Yellow is hillary.

Wow, bottom right corner, Barack got elected President of the world!

 

[Battersea Power Station]

And has been already pointed out on this page the law excerpt quoted only applies during an election, not a primary. You could make a good case for it being in very poor taste, but no laws are being broken.

Thanks; didn't know.

Conspiracy theory might be a bit strong, but it's definitely making a mountain out of a molehill. Go ahead and throw the Hillary votes out of those precincts - she'd still win. Maybe he shouldn't have been there, but arguing that it made any difference to the overall race sounds like sour grapes to me.

I don't think anyone serious was arguing that it made a difference; fervent supporters were probably trying to get a disqualification in the state, or something silly like that -- which is still making a mountain of a molehill.

 

[Buba Big Guns]

Nothing would make me happier than seeing both the lobbiest lap dogs Bush and Rubio out. I dont know exactly what chance Rubio thinks he has at this point.

 

[TyrantII]

Remember when people thought Clinton won Ohio because of coin flips?

This is more of that.

Our Secretary of State called him and said cut it out. He cut it out.

It's a nonstory. Bernie Bros Plz.

 

[Little Nemo]

Haven't read the whole thread, but has everyone seen this?

https://vine.co/v/i60YubamjY5

Maybe that's why Christie had that look. He's realized he's become Trump's bitch and he doesn't know how to get out without looking like a tool.

 

[gutter_trash]

Listen to Gutter_trash, he called the Liberal majority in Canada before anyone lol

 

[Mr Swine]

Just woke up here in Sweden, so did Trump and Bernie lose the election to become the front runner for Republican and Democrats presidential race?

 

[danm999]

Our Secretary of State called him and said cut it out. He cut it out.

It's a nonstory. Bernie Bros Plz.

!!!

So that does work!

 

[KHlover]

Nothing would make me happier than seeing both the lobbiest lap dogs Bush and Rubio out. I dont know exactly what chance Rubio thinks he has at this point.

The chance to sell som more books obv.

 

[plagiarize]

Just woke up here in Sweden, so did Trump and Bernie lose the election to become the front runner for Republican and Democrats presidential race?

Trump is still the clear front runner. As is Clinton.

 

[Wallach]

Just woke up here in Sweden, so did Trump and Bernie lose the election to become the front runner for Republican and Democrats presidential race?

Trump and Clinton have pretty well cemented their positions as the front runners for the upcoming elections.

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

Primaries still have rules, and I'd bet it is based on the party's rules. The polling location that I work near has signs up showing the 150 feet mark. Its probably up to the party to do something about it, but of course, they won't

 

[And_Gignac]

The people on NeoGAF who follow politics on a regular basis tend to get wrapped up in election victories, seat counts, appointments, district gerrymandering, etc. Bernie's campaign has been less about winning the Presidency than it is about starting a political movement. So especially for the people who aren't Bernie supporters, there isn't a lot of appreciation for things that don't contribute to a victory. Specifically, a lot of people don't think that Bernie's movement means anything because he is unlikely to win the nomination. More than a few are resentful that people are energized around the issues he brings up because it makes Clinton's road to the Presidency a bit more bumpy.

I also think that a lot of people are just not on board with the issues that Sanders is bringing up. It's one thing to say you support all these socialist economic policies when they're far off ideas. It's another to actually support a politician who has/had a chance of bringing them forward.

I do think it's a bit annoying that after years of reading GAFers lament about the fact that socialism etc isn't taken seriously, that there's such a large group that feels very threatened by Sanders's campaign and are eager for him to drop out. I mean, if I remember correctly, Bernie Sanders was very popular here before his campaign for President. I first learned about him on GAF. It was kind of disappointing to realize that a lot of the policially engaged GAFers are so strongly against his candidacy.

Beatiful post. This weird antagonism has blinded some people´s minds.

 

[MartyStu]

Haven't read the whole thread, but has everyone seen this?

https://vine.co/v/i60YubamjY5

Maybe that's why Christie had that look. He's realized he's become Trump's bitch and he doesn't know to get out without looking like a tool.

Holy shit.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Just woke up here in Sweden, so did Drumpf and Bernie lose the election to become the front runner for Republican and Democrats presidential race?

Trump's still in the driver's seat but Cruz is trying to rip out the steering wheel.

Bernie's chances just went from nil to quadra-nil, and we're coming up on two weeks where that might hit octa-nil.

 

[metalslimer]

Just woke up here in Sweden, so did Trump and Bernie lose the election to become the front runner for Republican and Democrats presidential race?

Trump did great. Bernie didn't get annihilated but it's getting to the point where he's not going to catch up

 

[Valhelm]

I guess my concern is enthusiasm and turnout come November.

In the firmly Democratic states, we're seeing Sanders win, despite the fact that Hillary is going to be the nominee.

Hillary's running up the score in states that Democrats won't win in a general election.



Yes, that's what I'm worried about.

My hope is that a Trump or Cruz nominee would inflame Sanders supporters to vote just to prevent a wacko from occupying the White House.

 

[Akiraptor]

Sure? I doubt it. I truly predict a record turnout election and Trump/Republicans be absolutely destroyed.

Things will have to change between now and Election Day for that to happen. So far the turnout on the GOP side of things is well above average, and the same can't be said for the Dems.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Slick Willy's charm wouldn't be stopped by a 150 ft distance anyway.

His mere presence in the state probably caused the 20,000 vote lead she has.

 

[Suikoguy]

Trump's still in the driver's seat but Cruz is trying to rip out the steering wheel.

Bernie's chances just went from nil to quadra-nil, and we're coming up on two weeks where that might hit octa-nil.

Ironically, Cruz's chances went up, assuming the remaining states were not about to shit on him. Who knows what might happen if Rubio drops out though.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Things will have to change between now and Election Day for that to happen. So far the turnout on the GOP side of things is well above average, and the same can't be said for the Dems.

One side's effectively a coronation, and the other side is full of reliable general-election voters participating in primaries for the first time (or for the first time since at least 2000).

(Or in other words, the GOP ain't really turning out anyone new. IIRC, the Dems are outpacing them in new registrations so far in Iowa and Nevada.)

 

[Poodlestrike]

This is a really great post.

And like another poster mentioned, the weird sports-like mentality that some seem to have towards politics is mildly disconcerting, to say the least.

The thing is...

Sanders campaign definitely started as a political maneuver, trying to get the Democratic Party (and the rest of the country) further to the left, but I can only conclude from his campaigns' behavior that somewhere along the line Sanders and those close to him convinced themselves that he could really win this thing.

Now, that, in and of itself, isn't a problem at all. Hillary doesn't have any kind of god-given right to the nomination or the presidency. But some of the tactics and rhetoric the Sanders camp has been employing is... worrying. She's the dominant favorite, and they're pounding the "Hillary is fundamentally untrustworthy" drum pretty damn hard. Attacking her positions from the left is one thing; the Republicans can't do shit with that. But character attacks? That's just teeing up the damn ball for them.

Things will have to change between now and Election Day for that to happen. So far the turnout on the GOP side of things is well above average, and the same can't be said for the Dems.

Well, for one thing, the parties will have nominees by then.

So there's that.

 

[TyrantII]

!!!

So that does work!

Yeah, I don't think all states have the rules that we do about strict non-politicking within poll places so it's understandable. Even meet and greets are not really cool, since you're still seen as a dignitary.

They are less strict on signs, but they should be 500 feet from a polling place too.

 

[boiled goose]

Trump's still in the driver's seat but Cruz is trying to rip out the steering wheel.

Bernie's chances just went from nil to quadra-nil, and we're coming up on two weeks where that might hit octa-nil.

Nah. Bernie did better than expected. Still a long shot, but no need to misrepresent what actually went down.

 

[Razorskin]

Haven't read the whole thread, but has everyone seen this?

https://vine.co/v/i60YubamjY5

Maybe that's why Christie had that look. He's realized he's become Trump's bitch and he doesn't know how to get out without looking like a tool.

+420
#Stumped

 

[Emarv]

Is there a chance Bill was voting and the guy just took a selfie with him? I hadn't kept track of when and where Bill voted so I'm just floating the theory.

 

[Rubenov]

Had a wild bet down and someone sold me 400 shares of Ben Carson NO for 99 cents each. I get 4 free bucks I guess.

Edit: for ALASKA

 

[danm999]

Just woke up here in Sweden, so did Trump and Bernie lose the election to become the front runner for Republican and Democrats presidential race?

Trump killed it.

Bernie did better than he might have otherwise, but not as well as he needed to.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Bernie did better than expected

He needed somewhere on the order of 410 delegates to so much as stay on a path to tie it. He's not touching that.

I mean, assuming "better than expected" means "still on a conceivable path to 2,383".

 

[Maintenance]

Wow, bottom right corner, Barack got elected President of the world!

 

[giga]

Nah. Bernie did better than expected. Still a long shot, but no need to misrepresent what actually went down.

He really didn't if you follow 538s delegate targets.

 

[CrazyDude]

Nah. Bernie did better than expected. Still a long shot, but no need to misrepresent what actually went down.

I don't really see anyway for Bernie to win. His wins tonight were smaller(percentage wise between the two) compared to the amount Hillary won with.

 

[magnifico]

That's such a huge fear of mine. I think Clinton probably is more electable than Sanders against Herr Drumpf, but I'm not certain.



Bernie spent much of his life working outside the Democratic Party, from a state with a pretty unusual political history and an ideology that no other national politician supports. To many voters, this makes him "anti-establishment". To others, a candidate only deserves that label if they're not a politician.

Excactly, he's not of the current laissez-faire economic establishment, or a puppet of it. That's what he means by anti-establishment. Doesn't means hes anti-government or anti-political.

 

[Movement]

Things will have to change between now and Election Day for that to happen. So far the turnout on the GOP side of things is well above average, and the same can't be said for the Dems.

This is not the primary. It will be a totally different scenario.

 

[Prodigal Son]

Haven't read the whole thread, but has everyone seen this?

https://vine.co/v/i60YubamjY5

Maybe that's why Christie had that look. He's realized he's become Trump's bitch and he doesn't know how to get out without looking like a tool.

wowowow

lol Christie is his slave

Spoiler

hawt

 

[JVIDICAN]

Is there a chance Bill was voting and the guy just took a selfie with him? I hadn't kept track of when and where Bill voted so I'm just floating the theory.

Bill can't vote in the MA election.

 

[Dicer]

That's really bad. Nothing will come from it of course.

Of course not, let it slide, didn't make a difference, etc etc etc

 

[Mr Swine]

Trump did great. Bernie didn't get annihilated but it's getting to the point where he's not going to catch up

Trump's still in the driver's seat but Cruz is trying to rip out the steering wheel.

Bernie's chances just went from nil to quadra-nil, and we're coming up on two weeks where that might hit octa-nil.

Trump and Clinton have pretty well cemented their positions as the front runners for the upcoming elections.

Trump is still the clear front runner. As is Clinton.

Ok! So I guess the Republicans are in denial mode hoping Ted/Rubio will win in the end?

 

[DirtyManos]

Here's what concerns me - the states that Hillary is running away with are states that are indisputably red in a general election.

In firmly blue states - Vermont, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Colorado - Bernie is winning big. Massachusetts is the exception, and even then it was very close.

That's not a good assumption to go with at all imo. Bernie's supporters are likely more left than Hillary's, and just because they voted for Bernie in the primary doesn't mean they won't vote for Hillary in the general. They definitely won't go more right, except for some small fringe group.

 

[Miles X]

The thing is...

Sanders campaign definitely started as a political maneuver, trying to get the Democratic Party (and the rest of the country) further to the left, but I can only conclude from his campaigns' behavior that somewhere along the line Sanders and those close to him convinced themselves that he could really win this thing.

Now, that, in and of itself, isn't a problem at all. Hillary doesn't have any kind of god-given right to the nomination or the presidency. But some of the tactics and rhetoric the Sanders camp has been employing is... worrying. She's the dominant favorite, and they're pounding the "Hillary is fundamentally untrustworthy" drum pretty damn hard. Attacking her positions from the left is one thing; the Republicans can't do shit with that. But character attacks? That's just teeing up the damn ball for them.

This is why I can't get on board with Bernie even being in the race anymore. He isn't winning, if he thinks he can he is deluded. He is doing damage at this point.

 

[SolarPowered]

I still like my shirt. Hillary will have my support. Secretly hoping for a VP nominee at least

Neat shirt

Would a Clinton/Bernie ticket work?

It would destroy for the GE, but his age and their ability to cooperate with each other would certainly be recurring issues. Honestly, if so many liberals think he could be president the age issue doesn't seem like that big of a deal for the VP slot. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to groom younger democratic hopefuls outside of the Vice Presidency.

I think he is; I think he's a compromising person at heart, especially when you hear about him talk about Obama. Plus Hillary is flopping her policies to cover Sanders' goals anyways.

You can't be in congress and the senate for over twenty years without learning to compromise.

Hillary - 8
Bernie - 4

Trump - 7
Cruz - 2
Rubio - 1

Alaska is yet to be counted.

It was a good night for everyone except Rubio. Too bad Bernie couldn't get an endorsement from Warren a month ago. I think it probably would have sealed MA for him.

What's depressing about this election season for me is that despite police brutality against African Americans specifically being perhaps the biggest domestic issue this past year, I feel like it's going to be forgotten in the mix no matter who becomes president. I don't blame them, but I think Black Lives Matter has ultimately had little impact on the actual direction of the election.

The Republicans unanimously don't give a fuck, so it's a no-go there. But even on the Democrat's end, for such a massive and massively publicized issue in the media, it has been severely underrepresented or absent altogether from the debates, and I think that bodes extremely poorly for action after assuming office. My gut tells me Hillary doesn't have it on her radar, and for someone who will so quickly shift her tone to pander to whatever is trending at the moment, she hasn't done so in the face of Black Lives Matter protests. And while I think Bernie has acknowledged the issue a bit more (and gone even further with his prison system reform), I still do feel like it's going to hit the back burner for him since every time he opens his mouth he can't help but to bring it back to wall street speculation blah blah. I don't think he's a single issue candidate, but man, he does seem to have an affinity for some over others.

Kind of irrelevant to Super Tuesday I guess, but my 2c.

A valuable two cents. I don't know who'd be better on the police brutality issue between Bernie and Hillary, but I do think that Bernie would use his presidency to aggressively push important issues on the national stage at the very least. I remember that Obama kind of backed off the income inequality issue, banks and our obesity issues (well, I think that was more Michelle's issue, but her is issue is his to an extent, right?). Bernie definitely wouldn't back off just because banks, food industries and police unions get pissy.

The people who are demanding that Bernie drop out today are the same people who said Bernie should drop out after Iowa.

Hillary didn't drop out in the 2008 primaries until June.

Stop it guys. You know what you're doing is wrong.

+1

I think Sanders should keep going for a whole host of reasons. But he's going to lose ultimately. Just as became clear after he didn't win Iowa.

He's proven to be a much more legitimate candidate than he was given credit for until voting started, and that he got as much support as he did gives me hope for the direction the country is going in.

Maybe in eight years, a younger version of Sanders will be able to win the nomination and the Whitehouse... but we have a bit more progress to make first.

Understatement of the year. It is amazing what an old socialist Jewish guy with suspiciously agnostic views has managed to accomplish. If I recall NH was the first instance of a non Christian winning a state in the entire country's history, right? Bernie 2.0 in a fifty year old package with more political flexibility is something democrat voters should look forward to. What I worry about is what the DNC will do with this realization. If the DNC is full of DWS types in 2024 and beyond it won't help the democratic party at all. :/

We watched Obama vs. the obstructionists, and many Republicans that didn't obstruct lost their jobs to candidates who promised to obstruct. This will only get worse with Sanders. It's not that I'm scared by the right, its that I want government to function, and I don't sense Sanders has the nuance to make sure it does. I love him as a senator, not as a president.

To be fair Bernie has been a part of the legislative branch of government longer than your average gaffer has been alive. It's strange that people argue he has no experience. He's pretty stacked if you ask me. Unfortunately experience, networking and history with minorities is something he definitely lacks compared to Clinton. No doubt about that.

In all seriousness I think Bernie has an image problem. He just comes off very preachy. Even more so than Clinton at this point. Clinton has managed to come off much more approachable within the last few weeks. She knocked that town hall out of the park.

I think Bernie's progressive ideas are great. Even if I believe these ideas are sometimes not feasible in our country's current climate.

I'm really hoping that democrats actually show up to vote. Too much at stake here to sit at home and pout.


My parents had me read gifted hands a few times when i was younger. I'll never be able to see the Carson in the same light. He has truly tarnished his legacy.

That depends on what Hillary does. We'll see how the next few months develop.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/super-tuesday-primaries-presidential-election-2016/

RIP Rubio

Thank God for Trump keeping the machines at bay.

Well, hrmmmm

This is the new COIIIIIINS, isn't it? lol

 

[MartyStu]

This is not the primary. It will be a totally different scenario.

Yup. For one, my state will actually let me vote then.

I am officially non-partisan in Florida so I cannot vote in primaries.

 

[Emarv]

Bill can't vote in the MA election.

Ah. I see.

 

[danm999]

Yeah the real loser tonight is Christie. Completely tethered to a loose canon and looks thoroughly miserable.

 

[giga]

https://twitter.com/colincornaby/status/704875956628955137

💀💀💀

 

[Josh5890]

Ok! So I guess the Republicans are in denial mode hoping Ted/Rubio will win in the end?

Karl Rove will probably write another editorial for the Wall-Street Journal in a couple days saying that Trump isn't close to clinching the nomination.

 

[Movement]

Yup. For one, my state will actually let me vote then.

I am officially non-partisan in Florida so I cannot vote in primaries.

That brings up another great point. The number of independents is now larger than either major party. Most Americans aren't voting in these primaries/caucuses.

 

[eyeball_kid]

Slick Willy's charm wouldn't be stopped by a 150 ft distance anyway.

His mere presence in the state probably caused the 20,000 vote lead she has.

Yeah I mean playing his sax outside the polling place probably would've been enough to sway the votes.

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

Sander's path has to rely on not losing in Ohio, Illinois, Missouri, Florida by huge margins and go on a streak from 3/22-4/19. He wants to try to gain delegates as time goes on, and he has the money to last a while and apparently the base that will fund him. There are 35 more states left and if he can win 10-20 delegates in many of them, he can eventually catch up, and at the very least last until the convention. At that point, he has already won on the message front, but not the nomination.

 

[GYODX]

This is the new coin flip isn't it?

Clinton really can do no wrong according to HillaryGaf, huh? Everything is hand-waved away.