Yea she took care of business in Mississippi so this is pretty much a wash at this point.
Super Tuesday 2016 |OT| The Final Incursion is a double Incursion (Mar 5-15 contests)
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Yea she took care of business in Mississippi so this is pretty much a wash at this point.
I mean, if Sanders really turned out that many youth voters, that's a big deal.
Man, I wish there were statistics on how many people cast provisional ballots (due to registration errors) and their ages for the previous primaries.
You know the media is being ridiculous when they claim she has huge problems when she's gonna claim the majority of delegates tonight overall.
THIS IS ALL THAT MATTERS.
Michael F. Assbender
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Jennifer Granholm (former Michigan governor) said this morning that Michigan is notoriously difficult to poll. I don't remember why though. It was early.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Rubio is back in third in Idaho.
Yeah. I hit post early. So I don't understand why people still think that he's going to win. It's just not feasible.
Battersea Power Station
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His biggest problems with minority votes, as most frequently cited, are his tone-deafness (which is largely perpetuated via social media) and his lack of addressing racial injustice head on (like #BLM does). Those are both issues that seem like they would resonate much more with younger voters.
SolarPowered
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I hope so because I like what I've read about the guy and Castro seems way too young (I know Obama was young... and still is all things considered).
Joe Shlabotnik
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The tie is also below Sanders' 538 benchmark for Michigan.
Rubio is a mess.
Orbis Tabula
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Uhhh...why would you sit on this info?
I've never understood this interest so many have with Castro. He just fails to excite me in any way.
It's really an impressive movement. And...yeah...the more zealous supporters can put out a bad image. That's unfortunately true for any group.Some of them don't just hate other candidates but hate the supporters of those candidates, and that's wrong. I have some friends who love Hillary, and when they saw how engaged I was in supporting Bernie, they started participating more in their own campaign of choice, and that made me feel good that they were inspired to take part in effecting change they wanted to see.
Yeah, it's pretty incredible to see it all happen. Hopefully the reputation of Bernie Sanders supporters changed to be more like you and less like the assholes.
Michael F. Assbender
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Well you can't deny this looks bad for her. It gives Sanders momentum, and the optics are terrible. She was up by ~20 points. She was supposed to win.
can someone explain this vbulliten meme?1.5 hours ago...
Absolutely.
StopMakingSense
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Lead just dropped to 17k
BigJonsson
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The gap is closing
maabus1999
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Sub 2% lead here. This is another Iowa. Great for Bernie to go past Mar 15th honestly, but aggregate wise is falling farther behind in delegates.
Prodigal Son
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Hill catching up.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Idealism generally plays better with young people. Older people just want someone who won't fuck things up too badly while they're around.
Michael F. Assbender
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Detroit is coming in.
Still likely won't be enough to put Clinton on top.
Still likely won't be enough to put Clinton on top.
I can tell you in Illinois it is a similar story in my friend group. One person chimed in that they supported Sanders while their mother was a Clinton supporter and then many others were stating similar stories. I'm the only one who is relatively undecided (In that I'm not sure whether to vote for Sanders for idealism even though he is poised to lose the state and nomination or vote for the winning candidate Clinton who is much more pragmatic I feel). I disagree with more than one of their policies and historical backgrounds so it is quite the challenge. Leaning towards Clinton though.
It's all in the messaging. Bernie campaign and the GOP will spin this as "the tides are turning. Doubt the Clinton campaign want to deal with that message. Despite the delegate numbers.
Does not matter either way they wont gain much here.
She is. He'll pull a couple extra delegates out of Michigan, but her other win was worth far more, so she still ends up ahead.
I think the huge mistake in polling comes down to independent turnout in open primaries. They break so heavily to Bernie that given enough of them, he pulls ahead. Closed primaries will hurt this effect since independent voters can't vote unless they changed their affiliation, and those deadlines are far past.
Congrats to Bernie. I still can't believe he pulled it off, but he did.
Epsilon-delta
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He was never expected to win anyways. The Dem nominee was Hillary's the moment she entered the race.
NihonTiger90
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That's absolutely true, too.
As for VP pick, and as an Ohioan, Brown is a great pick, but the problem would be who to replace him with. The GOP is absolutely gunning for his seat in 2018 and they have a ton of strong candidates to try and take it that Brown could fend off. But the Dem bench in Ohio is exceptionally weak outside of Brown and P.G. Sittenfeld down in Cincinnati, whose time isn't quite yet.
Joe Shlabotnik
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LOL this is like Bizarro Iowa
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Grand Rapids still has some Bernie votes
Voysa Reezun
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On this topic, he did actually hedge things earlier, including on the latest podcast.
I mean, he's a shitty pundit, but when it comes to assessing the polls, he's still a smart dude.
agreed. think it's too late
Thanks.To start I just contributed through donations and figured others would handle the data entry work and so on. As time went on I realized that this campaign is essentially run by people like me, and if I wanted to make a difference, I'd have to put my skin in the game.
It's really an impressive movement. And...yeah...the more zealous supporters can put out a bad image. That's unfortunately true for any group.
Well, you have my respect. In many ways I almost view this as grass roots vs establishment, and I'm rooting for you guys. I know Hillary also has her grass roots campaigners, as you yourself mentioned your friends are a part of, but it can't be denied that most of the mainstream establishment is very heavily alligned with Hillary over Bernie, and that puts him at a monumental disadvantage. I just want to know that somewhere, somehow, big money doesn't and can't always just dictate the end result. I know you guys have a gargantuan task ahead of you, but credit to your hard work and efforts.
Epsilon-delta
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That's what MSNBC just said right now. The lead is too big to overcome.
greycolumbus
The success of others absolutely infuriates me.
My God, this is juicy.
1.5 hours ago...
I mean, did you read that post and the post I was responding to? I totally stand by it. Decision Desk wasn't "grasping for attention" by calling the state for Hillary. They presumably genuinely thought she'd win it, kind of like every other analyst looking at the state did. This does make them look pretty bad.
Everything I posted is still 100% accurate even if Bernie wins the state!
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