Captain America: Civil War - Final Trailer

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Please don't do this here.
 
Nice! I am anticipating this almost as much as Batman V Superman!!

Most excited to see Black Panther mainly because no matter how much I love Spidey I highly doubt a film version of him will ver be as good as the Spectacular Spiderman rendition
 
I really love that Spidey's costume is a throwback/homage to the Romita Sr. era style of the suit. I have no doubt that when his solo movie releases in 2017, he'll have another updated suit. That's just how these things go.

I just want us to get to Mile Morales one day. I'm down for having two Spider-Men in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Make it three and get Ben Reilly in there as well.
 
We finally managed to get spiderman on the avengers and people are bitching about the costume, did i miss something?

I get the feeling that Spider-man is not going to be part of the avengers. Just like Hawkeye and IronMan aren't really Avengers any more. Marvel phase 3 is going to have a lots of characters that don't necessarily link back to Avengers, which is fine with me, as they need to expand beyond that to grow past Infinity War.
 
I thought that was one of the strengths of Winter Soldier. The action was taking place in "normal" locations, which added a sense of immediacy and danger to them. Shit was going down on normal city streets and highways, with regular people around. It made it feel like it was happening in the real world. Clearly inspired by stuff like the shootout in Heat.
Exactly, Winter Soldier is my favorite Anvengers movie to date, I just wish the story arc didn't have to escalate to the ridiculous carriers of death that can kill millions of people a minute.
 
Interesting, looks like he'll have an earlier suit before the one in the trailer. Cool stuff!
As soon as his eyes made the camera shutter noise, I suspected that this could be an upgraded suit courtesy of Tony and his old suit may actually not have animated eyes. So looks like my suspicions may be true.
 
MCU Stark causes more damage than the fucking Hulk. Meanwhile, Cap saved a couple hundred thousand lives in Winter Soldier and from the very moment he was told about the drone project he was all like "this is a really bad idea". Nobody else in The Avengers causes even remotely the same amount of collateral damage that Stark causes.

This is the thing - Tony knows this. Everyone knows this. When they talk about accountability and protecting lives, I don't think any of them are pointing their fingers directly at Steve and calling him a fuckup. But The Avengers are a team and they should be responsible for their actions as a whole, even in the Ultron debacle. But even in that, Tony wasn't acting completely alone. Don't forget it was Wanda that put the idea in his head that what they were doing was not enough to stop the next Chitauri invasion.

But basically my point is, they all pretty much expect Steve to be the leader in this and step in line, which would get the rest of the superhero community to follow. Because they think that is who Steve is.

It's a decent idea that gets completely out of hand because of passion and mistrust. Steve absolutely will prioritize Bucky over his legacy and image as Captain America and an Avenger. Compared to his best friend that shit barely matters. Tony did not seem to account for this, like he said in AOU he hasn't seen Steve's "dark side". I'm pretty sure he's talking to Steve in this trailer when he says "I was wrong about you, we were wrong about you."
 
Really though, Stark's the only real problem child on the team.

Avengers 1 - What does Loki use to power the portal? Oh, just Stark's off-the-grid building in the middle of New York that runs off a power source Stark pretty much keeps to himself.

Iron Man 3 - The entire Mandarin plot is caused by Stark being a dick.

Avengers 2 - He builds goddamn Ultron and his solution to the problem is to build another near unstoppable murder robot that he had no way of knowing would be good or evil.

MCU Stark causes more damage than the fucking Hulk. Meanwhile, Cap saved a couple hundred thousand lives in Winter Soldier and from the very moment he was told about the drone project he was all like "this is a really bad idea". Nobody else in The Avengers causes even remotely the same amount of collateral damage that Stark causes.

I'm with you on A2, and technically I guess you might be right on IM3 (insert Steve Buschemi in Billy Madison.gif here), but I don't follow on the Stark Building Power source being the cause in A1. He built a prototype building to prove the ability of his power tech. Which was only a secondary issue in service of the Tesseract (an Item that Cap did what he could in getting rid of it in the Ice, but dug up and tested on by SHIELD/Hydra).

Reminds me that Hawkeye could also take blame for NYC, on the same level as Bucky for all the things he's done, if Mind Control/Mind Wipe means nothing in terms of guilt.
 
Exactly, Winter Soldier is my favorite Anvengers movie to date, I just wish the story arc didn't have to escalate to the ridiculous carriers of death that can kill millions of people a minute.

Agreed, I get why most things like this have big world-ending annihilation devices, but Winter Soldier's story was a lot more raw and intimate and then it went full-on in the third act. Was still good, but I could feel a shift in tone.
 
Exactly, Winter Soldier is my favorite Anvengers movie to date, I just wish the story arc didn't have to escalate to the ridiculous carriers of death that can kill millions of people a minute.

Same - that final act is some weak sauce.

Like I get what they were going for thematically, but Cap/Widow/Falcon vs Bucky was a fucking awesome action setpiece. Then the finale just muddles things with a load of noise. They really needed to go simpler in the ending.
 
I'm with you on A2, and technically I guess you might be right on IM3 (insert Steve Buschemi in Billy Madison.gif here), but I don't follow on the Stark Building Power source being the cause in A1. He built a prototype building to prove the ability of his power tech. Which was only a secondary issue in service of the Tesseract (an Item that Cap did what he could in getting rid of it in the Ice, but dug up and tested on by SHIELD/Hydra).

Reminds me that Hawkeye could also take blame for NYC, on the same level as Bucky for all the things he's done, if Mind Control/Mind Wipe means nothing in terms of guilt.

I really hope someone calls Nat on your shit, given she was brainwashed too but apparently thinks Bucky is irredeemable because he was brainwashed. Or something.
 
I really hope someone calls Nat on your shit, given she was brainwashed too but apparently thinks Bucky is irredeemable because he was brainwashed. Or something.

I don't believe for a second that Natasha is genuinely siding with Tony, at least when it comes to the Bucky situation. She did plenty of horrible shit herself back in the day, and she definitely did not need to be brainwashed to do it.

While we won't be getting a romantic pairing with her and Bucky, I at least expect her to be logical and compassionate in not trying to murder a dude because he got brainwashed by Nazis.
 
We finally managed to get spiderman on the avengers and people are bitching about the costume, did i miss something?

People are mainly complaining about things so hilariously minute that even if their wishes were granted it would hardly change a damn thing. Like if most of the complaints I've seen (not just here but everywhere) were addressed, I guarantee nobody would be able to tell a difference.
 
So Cap and Bucky are fighting Iron Man here clearly. Who is in the "tank"?

Also is there an HD source that's not YouTube?

Looks like Natasha tbh, but can't tell. Everyone seems pretty desperate here. Maybe she fucked Tony's team and betrayed them, and Tony put her on ice to get her out of the picture.
 
I get the feeling it'll turn out Zemo has been trying to clone Bucky to create some army of Winter Super Soldiers and that's Bucky-2 in the tube or some bullshit. It never ends well.
 
I get the feeling it'll turn out Zemo has been trying to clone Bucky to create some army of Winter Super Soldiers and that's Bucky-2 in the tube or some bullshit. It never ends well.

Could be a possibility. Maybe it's how Bucky gets framed for the shit Panther is on his ass for. Or maybe it's our first real Life Model Decoy in the MCU
 
That looked pretty awesome. Live the look of Spiderman with the animated eyes.

After how dissapointing Age of Ultron was I sure hope this lives up to the hype.
 
I still want a scene where like tony and Cap are at a diner or something and there's Deadpool in the back making pancakes or something and no one ever acknowledges it.
 
I really hope someone calls Nat on your shit, given she was brainwashed too but apparently thinks Bucky is irredeemable because he was brainwashed. Or something.

Bucky has been brainwashed and put on ice in between since WWII. Dude's head is a fucking mess.
 
I get the feeling it'll turn out Zemo has been trying to clone Bucky to create some army of Winter Super Soldiers and that's Bucky-2 in the tube or some bullshit. It never ends well.

I'd forgotten we were getting Niki Lauda as Zemo in this movie. What does Dani Bruhl have to do to catch a break?
 
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