Nah, it's the opposite. The Division is much lonelier everywhere that isn't the Dark Zone or a Safe House.
The Division - Review Thread
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Nah, it's the opposite. The Division is much lonelier everywhere that isn't the Dark Zone or a Safe House.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Story and Matchmaking are the big ones.
Except you can match make everything and there is proximity chat.
You can't yet, that's in their April update with Incursions I think.
Netherscourge
Banned
It might be something they patch in?
I'm hearing in a stream the game will allow player trading. Not sure when though or if it's already in but gated somehow.
I'm a total noob with this game.
SneakersSO
Member
So a buddy hooked me up with a discounted copy & I played a bit this week. I'm someone who has put in a few hundred hours into Destiny at this point, so this kind of game is pretty much in-tune with what I like.
After putting about 5 hours or so in, and I know I need way more play time, I can already tell that whatever is going to keep me coming back, it certainly won't be the gameplay. Simply put, it feels super clunky to me. Aiming feels slow, shooting seems really odd, theres a lack of fluidity in my movements & actions - to me, its just not nearly as immediately playable as Destiny is. Destiny's amazing gunplay & controls is what kept the experience so inviting. Its still among my favorite.
The RPG hooks in Division are nice though. Really enjoying the crafting, and how I have gotten pulled into random adventures by just tuning into the large environment and letting it take me places. The RPG side of it is fun, no doubt about that. In the long run, this may not end up being my cup of tea, based solely on the fact that the controls & gameplay just don't feel right. Mind you, i'm playing on PS4 - I know if I were to play on PC I could get better gameplay, but I have way more friends on PSN so thats where i'll be.
After putting about 5 hours or so in, and I know I need way more play time, I can already tell that whatever is going to keep me coming back, it certainly won't be the gameplay. Simply put, it feels super clunky to me. Aiming feels slow, shooting seems really odd, theres a lack of fluidity in my movements & actions - to me, its just not nearly as immediately playable as Destiny is. Destiny's amazing gunplay & controls is what kept the experience so inviting. Its still among my favorite.
The RPG hooks in Division are nice though. Really enjoying the crafting, and how I have gotten pulled into random adventures by just tuning into the large environment and letting it take me places. The RPG side of it is fun, no doubt about that. In the long run, this may not end up being my cup of tea, based solely on the fact that the controls & gameplay just don't feel right. Mind you, i'm playing on PS4 - I know if I were to play on PC I could get better gameplay, but I have way more friends on PSN so thats where i'll be.
Coin Return
Loose Slot
Or, perhaps, the game is good.
It's in next month's update.
Sure, but I mean just running around the environment by yourself. In Destiny, even if you're not in a party, you're still coming across other people engaging in their own firefights or you have those group activities that show up on the map. There's nothing like that in The Division, if you're not in a party, in the Dark Zone, or inside of a Safe House, you're pretty much playing an offline game.
Ame
Member
In terms of content, is it varied? Will I be actually do things besides grinding for loot while shooting waves of enemies?
Which one do you trust?
Aztechnology
Member
You're smart to wait and see, and the reviews are being massively inflated right now. (No pun intended).
I have put about 20 hours into the game and while I've enjoyed it I'm already starting to see some blaring issues shine through the cracks. I imagine we'll see most reviews in the 7 to low 8 regions from the more respected outlets that took their time on the review instead of rushing it out for views.
Netherscourge
Banned
So do you always drop your loot when you die? Or is it only if you do something wrong and flagged? Like some sort of honor system in PvP?
Shouldn't be too hard to link the xhox warrior bungie haters to the division praisers then?
No, didn't think so.
That is encouraging. Nothing is more damaging to immersion in a shooter than enemies like this. One way or another, it does feel like The Division's difficulty is pretty much measured in the enemy's health, which is disappointing for a shooter.
They don't? I suppose generally people do overlook that, though you do at least tend to be fighting a monster or someone wearing loads of armor.
Even so, there is something about shooting twenty, thirty, forty bullets into the same enemy that feels especially ridiculous, especially with The Division's armor bar despite the enemies clearly not wearing armor. It suggests a real lack of nuance to the gameplay. Thankfully, most contemporary FPSs and TPSs don't use the bullet sponge enemy that often, and when they do they do at least have the grace to put a riot suit on them and have them hulk around. I suppose that I'm asking too much, but I was hoping for The Division to achieve gameplay that was at least comparable to the better TPSs of the last generation (say, Uncharted, Gears, TLoU), and maybe when paired with an RPG and an open world that's just too hard. The Division's setting simply feels like stealth mechanics should be there, and the lack of them is enormously disappointing.
If you die in the Dark Zone, what is inside your contaminated loot pouch is available as an open loot container. Obviously you may be able to run back and loot it back yourself if nobody else decides to. You also lose a certain amount of DZ XP and DZ credits for dying.
You don't drop anything you brought into the Dark Zone with you, though (except maybe potentially DZ keys, I think).
Anime lover 69
Banned
My favorite online game in years, have had so many laughs with my buds. Definitely deserved scores
Netherscourge
Banned
Yea, I'm watching a Twitch stream and some of the AI enemies are taking like 20 rounds to the face before they die.
WAY too spongy. But they looked like "Rare" AI dudes because they had a different color nametag.
WAY too spongy. But they looked like "Rare" AI dudes because they had a different color nametag.
I would say the AI is better than average, they flank you and attack you and try and flush you out but they retreat and take cover when you use your skills/powers.
Most shooters they just run at you and you mow them down.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Fuck if I know. People irrationally hate games all the time, but to theorise that those praising The Division are simply Xbox fanboys is ridiculous. Not everything has to turn into a console war.
Ah yes, the old "only negative reviews are the truth" perspective.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
I'm surprised the reviews are so high. I think its pretty great from what I've played, but I was expecting The derision(tm) from critics. I agree the game is easily ubisoft's best since rayman.
The AI is much better than I was expecting.
Yeah, people seem to be thinking it's bad because they have a lot of health but they're surprisingly aggressive and dynamic. It's neat seeing how the different factions behave too.
Getting flanked by a cleaner scares the shit out of me.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
If you aren't watching they will most definitely flank you, even the non melee ones. They also suppress you so they can move on you.
Drop a status curing med station. They aren't shit then.
I'd say the biggest issue here is you are labelling it as a TPS first and foremost, it isn't. It's an RPG which uses TPS/shooter gameplay, it always has been, even the devs themselves call it an RPG. What I mean by that is that it's ALL about the loot. You shoot enemies/go as high in difficulty as you can to get through levels to get better loot so as you can kill them quicker. They are intrinsically tied together. It's basically Diablo with modern day loot and I find that incredibly refreshing personally. That and the amazing world as well. If you are wanting a traditional TPS you won't get it get here as that's not it's goal. I mean it even has an area where you can reroll stats on gear to get better/random stats!
It's funny though you mentioning Uncharted as one of the better TPS of last gen as I thought Uncharted was quite poor as a shooter, I'm certainly enjoying The Division as much as Uncharteds combat anyway.
The enemy AI isn't bad at all and I'd honestly question if people who said so had even spent much time with the game. Plenty of flanking, hiding until they absolutely have to come out, rushing you, shooting whilst running back to cover etc. I'd like to see some more AI behaviours in their as well but what's there is great.
therealminime
Member
Also the factions fight. Any game where enemy factions fight is improved in my books.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Does the snowy one city location make everything look the same and redundant. Or do they find ways to mix it up and look fresh
Great post.
texhnolyze
Banned
Yup, people seem always forget what kind of game it is.
They never describe it as a shooters or FPS game. It's an RPG to the root.
The snow comes and goes, and New York itself has lots of different looks.
There is over ground and underground, time of the day makes a big difference too.
Bags of garbage here, body bags every where.
Fires here and there look ace.
Famous places look ace.
Why not mention a SINGLE review you trust though?You said there wasn't a SINGLE review you trust yet.
Which ones will you trust?
Say it before their reviews come out.Go on.
Opencritic doesn't add weight btw.
http://opencritic.com/game/1530/tom-clancys-the-division
90 so far.
yukianderson
Member
Am looking forward to the reviews, I found the beta to be very boring but might give it another change if it reviews well. Read a lot of positive comets here so that's good. Am just worried about the repetitive gameplay.
Aka "waiting for that single bad review to piggyback on and ignore all the good ones to call the game shit"
falconxcrunner09
Member
I'm pretty sure the main reason they don't do that in this game is because it would make it impossible to win since they all have a billion HP on hard and up.
Great game, I am having fun.
It seems like some people have made up their minds on this already because of the practises they believe is wrong by the publisher, so it won't matter how many positive reviews or impressions by people here that the game gets, they will complain here.
It seems like some people have made up their minds on this already because of the practises they believe is wrong by the publisher, so it won't matter how many positive reviews or impressions by people here that the game gets, they will complain here.
I haven't touched the DZ yet and in my limited play time
Choose mission
Choose multiplayer
Accept group
fun ensues
I've added like 6 people to my friends list in the last 2 days, just of of random groupings
This is the polar opposite of my initial Destiny experience which was like pulling your teeth out to make a group that was not composed of your online friends
Karak
Member
I rated it a Wait for Sale in my working review. Still hammering out time on all 3 systems and doing tech checks for the final. Which is probably a 7 or 7.5 in the rating scale but who knows as I created it because numbers didn't work for me. But it was the closest title in my history where I couldn't decide between Buy and Wait for Sale. Lots of good shit in this title.
I meant when you're not in a party. Destiny feels like a "shared-world shooter", even when you're running around as an Army of One. I don't think the same is true of The Division.
I will say the lack of some matchmaking options ruined Destiny for me and its thorough inclusion is part of the reason why I love The Division so much. I think it's an interesting dynamic, The Division has the ability to be both much more solitary and more social than Destiny at the same time.
Karak
Member
Man its Steam. Seriously its so bad there for any title. Just uhg.
KiefbladeMaster
Member
People are saying it's because the servers were down for an hour at launch.
MiamiWesker
Member
So now that a bunch of you got to play through this I need to know how long the main missions will take. Is this a Destiny situation where it's like 6-8 hours and it's done?
I played the beta, it's ok, destiny's gameplay is so much better that I am able to excuse the structure but I don't know if I would in Division. People say there is so much to explore, in the beta I found the exploration to be lackluster, random groups of enemies. The occasional fake batman investigation scene. Is there anything outside just shooting, a puzzle?
There is a lot of positive buzz, I don't know why, are the bosses amazing? Are there interesting gameplay scenarios or setpieces? Or is it just the beta extended out further?
I played the beta, it's ok, destiny's gameplay is so much better that I am able to excuse the structure but I don't know if I would in Division. People say there is so much to explore, in the beta I found the exploration to be lackluster, random groups of enemies. The occasional fake batman investigation scene. Is there anything outside just shooting, a puzzle?
There is a lot of positive buzz, I don't know why, are the bosses amazing? Are there interesting gameplay scenarios or setpieces? Or is it just the beta extended out further?
Kadin
Member
People were writing reviews very quickly and completely bashing the game because of connectivity issues... on launch day. No one there has patience and waits to actually play the game and write a review accordingly. Connection issues certainly are part of the review but it's pretty sad when an entire game is rated on that one aspect.
texhnolyze
Banned
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