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Primethius said:
What's a good range that people are expecting Civil War to open to?

It being a Captain America movie at heart but also featuring what is essentially the Avengers makes me thing around the 180 area personally (aka, almost doubling WS opening).
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I really have no clue what to think with that one. Definitely over $100m since Winter Soldier was so well received, but getting up past $150m just seems so out there for a Cap movie, even if it is like Avengers 2.5.

Of course, if early reviews are glowing, that will help. I just really don't know what to predict with that one.
 
duckroll said:
Okay I read that whole thing and I still don't understand how that is a real movie. Are the books it's based on real? How is this entire thing not a parody on real life?
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I've never read the book series it's based on, and considering what he's done with Batman & Superman, I'm not sure I trust him to have faithfully adapted them. I imagine it plays better as a book, where fantastical elements like that can be properly explained and eased into, and then followed through on appropriately, and you don't have to see them presented in a Liefeldian manner, through as lifelike a presentation as possible.
 
FTF said:
Have director cuts every been shorter than the theatrical releases? I would like a 30 minute shorter directors cut of BvS.
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JaggedSac said:
Yes. That would be a taut, badass movie.
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Yes a BvS: Lean & Mean Cut (2hr run time)

GhaleonEB said:
It needs both large additions and subtractions to get good, I think. Entire plotlines either distract from the core story, or dead end outright. My worry with the extended cut is they'll literally just extend, which might bring closure to some scenes that need closure, but as much as that, the film needs focus.
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That was my fear, that Snyder would just add more scenes that got cut entirely, extend the ones that made the theatrical cut, and nothing would be fixed as far pacing and coherency of story and motivations.

There's a lot of stuff that needs to be cut and/or shuffled around in that movie. hopefully the DC fixes everything.
 
Primethius said:
What's a good range that people are expecting Civil War to open to?

It being a Captain America movie at heart but also featuring what is essentially the Avengers makes me thing around the 180 area personally (aka, almost doubling WS opening).
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I could see it being anything between 140-200M to be honest. It's a wide range because I don't trust people to understand it. To some, it will just be a Captain America sequel and Winter Soldier only opened at 95M. You have to make people understand it's Avengers 2.5 instead of Cap 3.
 
Civil War is a Spidey movie now.

It's a Spidey movie that promises a better version of what we just got w/ Batman v Superman, on top of that.

I bet we see it open somewhere around 180-190.

But yeah, it could go over 200.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
I really have no clue what to think with that one. Definitely over $100m since Winter Soldier was so well received, but getting up past $150m just seems so out there for a Cap movie, even if it is like Avengers 2.5.

Of course, if early reviews are glowing, that will help. I just really don't know what to predict with that one.
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I don't think being a Cap movie matters that much at this point. Every trailer is full of Iron Man. It will be the same case as BvS technically being a Man of Steel sequel.

I am not convinced it will do Avengers money opening weekend, but $150M doesn't seem like that high a bar. Especially since the budget on Civil War is going to be absurd (which will lead to Disney/Marvel marketing the hell out of it).
 
Civil War trailer got the biggest pop in the theater when we saw BvS


Purely when Spidey showed up.


The film is opening big
 
DirtyLarry said:
Perhaps the most interesting thing I noticed when I saw BvS on Friday was the diversity of the crowd. And I am not just talking race, although that was also diverse. I am talking the age of the crowd. It ranged from about 10 to 70. I saw more than a few older couples (and when I say older, I mean 60+, me and my wife are 40 so are old to plenty of you I imagine).

And that really comes down to one character and one character only. Superman. He is pretty much the oldest comic book character there is, so you literally have generations that have grown up with him.

Include Superman, and it does not matter if your movie is awful, people will go to see it. His staying power is pretty damn remarkable.
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That's why I told my dad to not see it. He's always loved Superman and the supporting cast and I know he'd just get really sad after seeing this BvS spoilers
(tackling the Death of Superman in such a tacky morose way, Batman torturing Superman, Superman as a murderer, and worst of all, Superman's mom being kidnapped and tortured with those disturbing Polaroids)
instead of the joy Superman (both the movies and the old George Reeves show) has given him over the years.

Mario007 said:
Man Nolan must be an awful director, both GotG and Deadpool made more money than BB and that has freaking batman in it.

Or

Russos must be awful directors when their Captain America sequel will finish around the same or with less money earned than Deadpool or GotG. And thats with the Avengers bump for cap.
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Are you talking about Civil War? Because I don't see how Civil War finishes beneath those two :P
 
kswiston said:
I don't think being a Cap movie matters that much at this point. Every trailer is full of Iron Man. It will be the same case as BvS technically being a Man of Steel sequel.

I am not convinced it will do Avengers money opening weekend, but $150M doesn't seem like that high a bar. Especially since the budget on Civil War is going to be absurd (which will lead to Disney/Marvel marketing the hell out of it).
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It would have been easier to market the movie in foreign markets if they called it Avengers: Civil War, but I'd imagine they couldn't on account of the movie being very Cap focused and potentially because of actor contracts.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Civil War is a Spidey movie now.

It's a Spidey movie that promises a better version of what we just got w/ Batman v Superman, on top of that.

I bet we see it open somewhere around 180-190.

But yeah, it could go over 200.
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spidey movie featuring frisbee man and metal curly joe.


I'm guessing it does 200+ and beats boring old Star Wars.
 
jackdoe said:
It would have been easier to market the movie in foreign markets if they called it Avengers: Civil War, but I'd imagine they couldn't on account of the movie being very Cap focused and potentially because of actor contracts.
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I don't think they even call it Captain America overseas. Still think they use the First Avenger tag line.
 
Civl War, like the last few summer start blockbusters, will be opening a week earlier than the US in the majority of the world. So we'll get a sense of just what kind of blockbuster it'll be from that, whether it'll be an Avengers sized hit on OW or not.
 
I wonder how much longer Avengers will keep the top Superhero opening.

Batman Forever and Spider-man each held it for 5 years. I think those were the two longest stretches since Batman 89.
 
Primethius said:
What's a good range that people are expecting Civil War to open to?

It being a Captain America movie at heart but also featuring what is essentially the Avengers makes me thing around the 180 area personally (aka, almost doubling WS opening).
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I might be in the minorty but being a defecto Avengers movie plus Spiderman, I think Civil War is gonna end up the highest grossing marvel movie and should be a lock for a 200 million opening weekend.
 
Hmm, I've just noticed Midnight Special declined nearly 50% in the same 5 theaters, and it's only planned to expand to 55 theaters this upcoming weekend. WB has apparently decided to let it die while they toss all their promotional weight behind BvS. A shame considering the excellent reviews and intriguing concept; I think it would have done well if they went for a straight wide release in Late September or October.
 
I can see $200M happen for Civil War.


But Spidey needs to be all over those 30 second TV spots. Cap, Iron Man and Spider-Man all together in one film will get it to $200M.
 
Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
Hmm, I've just noticed Midnight Special declined nearly 50% in the same 5 theaters, and it's only planned to expand to 55 theaters this upcoming weekend. WB has apparently decided to let it die while they toss all their promotional weight behind BvS. A shame considering the excellent reviews and intriguing concept; I think it would have done well if they went for a straight wide release in Late September or October.
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That's a goddamned shame. They should be pushing this. Especially considering what Cloverfield's done.
 
kswiston said:
Maybe. I suppose that will depend on the reception of the Phase 3 stuff leading up to that.

I would have said Justice League next Fall, but who knows now.
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Justice League is going to flounder unless there are some significant change ups. I don't think they can expect to break any records if they keep true to Snyder's ongoing vision.
 
kswiston said:
Maybe. I suppose that will depend on the reception of the Phase 3 stuff leading up to that.

I would have said Justice League next Fall, but who knows now.
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I seriously doubt JL gets the record. Only 18 months of marketing compared to BvS's three years, not too many big name stars, and coming off of the most scorned superhero flick since F4NT4STIC.
 
Gordon Shumway said:
GOAT thread thanks to title changes and Betty. Oh, and the "fuck da haters/Marvel" crowd..

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We'll always have Paris.
 
Bronx-Man said:
I seriously doubt JL gets the record. Only 18 months of marketing compared to BvS's three years, not too many big name stars, and coming off of the most scorned superhero flick since F4NT4STIC.
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What do you mean by BvS having three years of marketing? The first trailer only dropped less than a year ago. Before that there were pics and comic-con panels but that doesn't really matter much in the grand scheme of things. 18 months is more than enough time to market a film.

The reviews/general opinion will most likely hurt Justice League though. I doubt it beats 170 million. I think people also want to see Batman mainly, not Batman sharing screen time with a bunch of people they don't know of.
 
kswiston said:
Maybe. I suppose that will depend on the reception of the Phase 3 stuff leading up to that.

I would have said Justice League next Fall, but who knows now.
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My expectation for JL was always lower than BvS, before the critical reception. But reports from last week indicated WW was a big draw, Flash is a popular TV show, people know of Aquaman, Cyborg...exists. Might be underestimating it.

Avengers 3 presumably brings GotG and Avengers together. That can be a big draw.
 
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