Inglorious_ Man
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I also have a 4k tv and 4k audio receiver. I was looking into getting a new 4k blu ray player but will just upgrade to the new PS4k. Gamestop will definitely be having some sort of trade in program even if Sony does not not.
PS4K information (~2x GPU power w/ clock+, new CPU, price, tent. Q1 2017)
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I also have a 4k tv and 4k audio receiver. I was looking into getting a new 4k blu ray player but will just upgrade to the new PS4k. Gamestop will definitely be having some sort of trade in program even if Sony does not not.
Kralamoonard
Member
I laugh if it was all April Fools when it's the 1st here.
gaming and work.
Netherscourge
Banned
Ok, let's talk about game licenses then...
If the PS4K is REAL, can you transfer a PS4 DIGITAL game you bought for your PS4 over to the PS4K?
If so, would it benefit from the higher-end hardware in any way? No so much resolution, but what about framerate and overall responsiveness?
If the PS4K is REAL, can you transfer a PS4 DIGITAL game you bought for your PS4 over to the PS4K?
If so, would it benefit from the higher-end hardware in any way? No so much resolution, but what about framerate and overall responsiveness?
It will after the early adopters of PS4 will get post bargain phase.
ShadowKingpin
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Count me in! As a current PS4 owner, I am REALLY hoping Sony announces a Trade-In Program where you can cut a decent amount ($200 or so) off of the main price so that you can switch over to the better system. It would only make sense, but time will tell.
Daffy Duck
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Even worse, sales will plummet.
MikeE21286
Member
:lol
LordOfChaos
Member
2x as fast = non native 4K games confirmed. The console that *usually* but not always has 1080p games needs more than that to target four times the pixels.
Still confused what to make of all this then. Just a VR optimized PS4 to get the current level of games in VR?
Still confused what to make of all this then. Just a VR optimized PS4 to get the current level of games in VR?
No, why would you think this?
Seems like a really dumb move with PSVR on the horizon. Do they want to move VR or new PS4s? Most existing users would be forced to make a choice between the two, hurting adoption rate of both.
This would also effectively be a price increase on the console, and a big one at that. They can market new bells and whistles, but we're talking double the price here. Short of being marketed as a PS5, I don't think its gonna be flying off shelves.
Sony needs to rethink this. I don't know who this product is for. If this product is for Sony, to help push 4K TVs and Blu-Rays and buoy their other divisions, then they need to abort the idea quickly, cuz its a bad one.
But If it's true, I hope the product is rejected by the market. I don't want mid cycle console upgrades becoming a thing. Every 2-3 years is too frequent, and leads to buyer uncertainty. Should I really buy one of these new playstations or sit and wait for the upgrade? What if the upgrade never comes, what if it's too expensive? And what if that initial sale never occurs either? What if all the hype and buzz of a new console launch just evaporates? Truthfully, I believe this is the kinda shit that could lead to another crash.
This would also effectively be a price increase on the console, and a big one at that. They can market new bells and whistles, but we're talking double the price here. Short of being marketed as a PS5, I don't think its gonna be flying off shelves.
Sony needs to rethink this. I don't know who this product is for. If this product is for Sony, to help push 4K TVs and Blu-Rays and buoy their other divisions, then they need to abort the idea quickly, cuz its a bad one.
But If it's true, I hope the product is rejected by the market. I don't want mid cycle console upgrades becoming a thing. Every 2-3 years is too frequent, and leads to buyer uncertainty. Should I really buy one of these new playstations or sit and wait for the upgrade? What if the upgrade never comes, what if it's too expensive? And what if that initial sale never occurs either? What if all the hype and buzz of a new console launch just evaporates? Truthfully, I believe this is the kinda shit that could lead to another crash.
Do you think developers will ignore 40million potential customers?
Where are we at?
I swear I read 7 stages of Gaf
diffusionx
Gold Member
More I think about it... this is a terrible idea.
Hip Hop
Member
I'm pretty sure they'll be pushing deals hard on this. I would wait on it if you're not in a rush. $200 isn't bad at all though.
They are still giving out $150 credit for a 360/PS4 to upgrade to a new console at Gamestop when deals happen.
mckmas8808
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Yes, because 90% of the games will runn 100% fine on the OG PS4. At least through 2017 lol.
SuperInuit
Member
"sacrifices"
I for one welcome a return to the N64 heyday of about 10fps.
I for one welcome a return to the N64 heyday of about 10fps.
KojiKnight
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un1que
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Well holy shit! Exciting stuff! E3 is going to be interesting.
You're acting like there aren't games now that dip below 15 on the PS4. Fallout was an absolute mess
Sure, PCs are more complex, but they're also more open and powerful, and some people are okay sinking time into that.
So with money and time weighed into a PC, is it unthinkable that those same people might also appreciate having a simple option that they only have to pay for once, that doesn't break, that is guaranteed to be consistent? Just boot it up, it works, play a cool game while shit re-installs, whatever...
They fill different needs.
RIGS is going to be a thing of beauty. Best looking VR game bar none.
I imagine getting your digital PS4 games on PS4K would be no different than getting it on another normal PS4.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Are we living in a universe where this doesn't already happen? Look at Fallout 4 on console vs. PC.
Lilalaunebaer
Member
I don´t really get the concern about "cross-gen" between the PS4 & PS4K.
It´s GPU is about twice as powerful. That´s gonna get you higher settings, better shadows, a bit more draw distance etc or a mixture of those things.
This isn´t like the PS3/PS4 situation at all. That was a powergap by the factor of 10 or something like that were if you wanted the game to run on both, it was either an upgraded version of the PS3 game (which would be the higher settings example in the beginning of the post) or a PS4 game and an almost different PS3 game, because of the huge power gap simply not being able to run the "same" game. Which even if devs focused on the 4K version, it would be quite simple to run the game on the regular PS4. PCs, been doing it for decades. And this are exactly 2 different skus. Not a million.
You´re gonna get PS4 games with better settings here. They´re not gonna abandon the PS4 for the 4K. There are what, 40 million? of those out there. It will be just fine.
It´s GPU is about twice as powerful. That´s gonna get you higher settings, better shadows, a bit more draw distance etc or a mixture of those things.
This isn´t like the PS3/PS4 situation at all. That was a powergap by the factor of 10 or something like that were if you wanted the game to run on both, it was either an upgraded version of the PS3 game (which would be the higher settings example in the beginning of the post) or a PS4 game and an almost different PS3 game, because of the huge power gap simply not being able to run the "same" game. Which even if devs focused on the 4K version, it would be quite simple to run the game on the regular PS4. PCs, been doing it for decades. And this are exactly 2 different skus. Not a million.
You´re gonna get PS4 games with better settings here. They´re not gonna abandon the PS4 for the 4K. There are what, 40 million? of those out there. It will be just fine.
Petrae
Member
False equivalencies are a GAF staple.
Exactly. I'll probably buy an NX and wait for a PS5 in good time (because I'm not a fan of Sony's handling of the PS4 right now), but having the OPTION to upgrade to better visuals without the fucking mind-melting wait of last generation that damn near killed me...
It can only be a good thing, imo.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
If we explore the flip side to this, after all these are businesses they're not looking out for your interest just your money. This is a highly exploitable new direction that the console market is heading towards. People said the same thing about DLC and now here we where most people groan at the name.
It won't just stop with the PS4K, you know for a fact that if this move proves successful then you're gonna see some something like exclusive features for the PS4K version of games on just enough games that you'll feel extremely compelled to upgrade to get the functionality you want out of your games.
Multiplayer modes that handle more players on PS4K vs regular PS4s would be the most obvious way to do this. Perhaps different AI behavior for another thing, just lots of stuff beyond visual fidelity upgrades.
It could get to the point where they'll be pushing for a yearly upgrade model and you'll start seeing just enough features on just enough exclusives being locked to the upgraded model that you'll end up buying a new box every year.
That isn't logic.
It's conjecture.
Whatever side of the fence you are on, it's all conjecture.
draughn101
Member
OR we leave the systems as they are for 10 years and mobile technology starts surpassing their performance. People are being a bit ridiculous about this. I bought my consoles at launch and think I got more than my money's worth out of them. And before E3 and the public at large knows about this I'll unload them on Craigslist and still get a significant portion of my money back. The whining is more than ridiculous. It's like being in a room full of Trump supporters.
They will sell out of both at launch.
matrixman92
Member
"also there is currently no plan for any type of trade in program for current PS4 users but that could change. "
DOA if there isnt
DOA if there isnt
The problems started way before iOS 9 anyway, it ran like crap with 7 already.
Poohblaster
Member
Sony just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about console culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Redmond where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over at Best Buy, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the console public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the PS4K or the PS4, nor will they purchase any of Sony's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sony has alienated an entire market with this move.
Sony, publicly apologize and cancel the PS4K or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about console culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Redmond where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over at Best Buy, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the console public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the PS4K or the PS4, nor will they purchase any of Sony's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sony has alienated an entire market with this move.
Sony, publicly apologize and cancel the PS4K or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I was just trying to joke about the clusterfuck that was the start of the HD generation of displays with the HD Ready, Full HD, True HD, etc monikers. The PS4K won't render 4K AAA games it will be a PS4K Ready console. The true PS 4K will be PS5. Confusing? Yes. The beginning of the HD generation was also. hehe
zswordsman
Member
Yep. This is me, I have loved the ps4 for the last two years. I have gotten plenty from that machine. Im ready for more juice.If anything, the early adopters should be the happiest about this. They've had their PS4s for over 2 years, and by the time the PS4K releases it will be 3 years old, or more. I'd be much more pissed if I waited to buy one now only to find out that another, more powerful, iteration is releasing soon...
Unless you meant you haven't bought one yet and this news means you're gonna wait even longer for the PS4k?