JadedWriter
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But what happens if Justice League makes less money than BvS?
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Wkd BO 0325-2716 - Batman vs Superman (or Grindr hookup gone sideways) bests Bunny
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Thats at least a 67% drop right?
LegendofDragoonLives
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How is that a pathetic post? Please explain. You have a Thanos picture while making that cringe post.
Manga > comic books anyways.
MisterHero
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Ehhhhhh. I'm still waiting for a multimedia project that balances a good story with Superman's comic-level brokenness. And not being crapped on, in-universe or IRL for being exactly that. IMHO Snyder's approach is clumsy but it is close.
Ya. Obviously, that's just a prediction, but given the fact that BvS' Tuesday wasn't much better than Deadpool's first Tuesday, I don't think it is that outlandish.
PhoncipleBone
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Cmon, 70+% drop. Take the crown from Hulk.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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I was thinking 68% drop for $53M. :lol It feels like the perfect storm for frontloadedness, so I wouldn't necessarily be surprised by it falling 70%. My only hesitation for thinking otherwise is there really is fuck all opening this weekend.
Well they can worry about that at the end of 2017.
Yeah. I'm predicting that too with the drops we've seen. It would be a riot if deadpool's second week is more than bat v supes' second week.
Oh man if that happens, I can only imagine the riots
JadedWriter
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PhoncipleBone
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We still have the bloodbath to look forward to when Civil War opens. Whether it bests BvS opening weekend or not, that will be the worst and bloodiest box office thread in years.
broncobuster
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Is Civil War's opening higher even up in the air? Top 3 in May all feature Iron Man and are all over the BvS number. It'll be interesting to see if Spider-Man helps push it over Avengers 1.
I know it's not actually the case, but in my mind, Batman vs Superman should've been a bigger event than Justice League. You have the room to explore a conflict between the 2 most prominent heroes of the last 80 years, no fluff, no side characters no one cares about 
This should be doing 1.5 billion+ and probably would have if there was a good build up to it or it was a better movie.
Fast & Furious is a bigger franchise than these 2 guys. How does that makes any sense?
This should be doing 1.5 billion+ and probably would have if there was a good build up to it or it was a better movie.Fast & Furious is a bigger franchise than these 2 guys. How does that makes any sense?
Top 5 May openings are 4 films featuring Iron Man and Spider-Man 3.
Yikes.
Can you fucking imagine? There's no way we live in a world where an R Rated Deadpool movie makes more domestic than a Batman/Superman crossover movie... right?
WhiteRabbitEXE
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To be fair, that's on the back of enormous international money, from markets who are much less attached to Batman or Superman, and import Hollywood films purely for big budget spectacle (in China it was briefly the highest grossing film of all time until Monster Hunt barely edged it out). A very different BvS could have done much better in those markets, but not because of the characters involved. As is it kind of fell-flat, particularly in China.
DC is still most popular in America and will definitely out-gross Fast 7 here. That said, it really shouldn't be anywhere close as it is. As has been said, BvS should be fucking enormous in the United States.
Primethius
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George Oscar Bluth II
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Damn.
Mix Master
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Even if Civil War "Bombs" Disney can hide behind the fact that it's a Captain america movie and say "It did better than Winter Soldier!!!"
Will there be a...civil war on neogaf? See what i did there?
Bobby Roberts
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Notable 2nd Weekend drops in the 70% range:
Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows Pt II: 72%
Nightmare on Elm Street (2010): 72.3%
Fifty Shades of Gray: 73.9%
Predators: 71.7%
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film For Theaters: 71.6%
Hellboy II: 70.7%
Mallrats: 70.1%
Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Pt. 1: 69.8%
Hulk: 69.7%
The Fault in Our Stars: 69.2%
Elektra: 69%
Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows Pt II: 72%
Nightmare on Elm Street (2010): 72.3%
Fifty Shades of Gray: 73.9%
Predators: 71.7%
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film For Theaters: 71.6%
Hellboy II: 70.7%
Mallrats: 70.1%
Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Pt. 1: 69.8%
Hulk: 69.7%
The Fault in Our Stars: 69.2%
Elektra: 69%
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Edit: ^ damn, didn't realize Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 was that front loaded.
So is there a possibility that the disappointment with BvS actually works directly in Civil War's favor? i.e. disappointed fans using it as a palette cleanser? Or do the opposite and be hurt by people feeling burned by super hero versus films?
So is there a possibility that the disappointment with BvS actually works directly in Civil War's favor? i.e. disappointed fans using it as a palette cleanser? Or do the opposite and be hurt by people feeling burned by super hero versus films?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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And in 2D no less.
Imagine if Deadpool was in 3D and released in China, good chance it would have beaten BvS worldwide.Mix Master
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b-b-b-but BvS is better than all of marvel films!!!!
WhiteRabbitEXE
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And in 2D no less.
Eh, I don't think China would have moved the needle on Deadpool's total gross all that much. Doesn't strike me as something that would be all that huge there. Like Guardians of the Galaxy it's kind of limited by the heavily western humor as well as the numerous western pop-culture references, and yet it also lacks the CGI spectacle of Guardians. And even with 3D I think it still would have landed a bit shy of the $900m or more BvS will make. It's really not a movie that benefits all that much from 3D, and I don't think audiences would flock to a 3D version in numbers big enough to make that huge of a difference.
Released one week before TDK ;_;
Bobby Roberts
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I had so much fun with that movie. Never understood why they did that.
On the other hand, that was a HELL of a back to back, wasn't it?
Hellboy II didn't deserve that.
It sure was.
Bobby Roberts
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The "risk of takeover" shit is getting kinda overblown in discussions on this here board.
Father_Brain
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Well, aside from the fact that the Flash and Aquaman films will already have wrapped or almost wrapped production by then, and that their performance will be heavily contingent on how those characters are received in Justice League.
If JL gets a similar reception to BvS, I really think WB could be looking at multiple outright bombs on their DCCU slate.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see a *lot* of schedule rejiggering over the next few months, so we might get a 2018 slate that doesn't reflect such unwarranted confidence in Justice League - Batman and Suicide Squad 2, perhaps.
So, Zootopia is heading for another full week drop of ~24%.
Just for fun, I extrapolated the film's gross with continued 25% weekly drops for the next 5 weeks (starting this Friday). The total ends up being and additional $98M. That would put Zootopia just shy of $350M coming off a $9.5M 9th week.
In that scenario, Zootopia would beat BvS. Not that I expect the film to have consistently great drops (though Frozen's post holiday legs were more impressive than what I outlined).
Every Superhero film released in China since the start of 2014 has made at least $80M.
Just for fun, I extrapolated the film's gross with continued 25% weekly drops for the next 5 weeks (starting this Friday). The total ends up being and additional $98M. That would put Zootopia just shy of $350M coming off a $9.5M 9th week.
In that scenario, Zootopia would beat BvS. Not that I expect the film to have consistently great drops (though Frozen's post holiday legs were more impressive than what I outlined).
Every Superhero film released in China since the start of 2014 has made at least $80M.
He says that, but I can't imagine he'd actually turn the offer down if they gave it to him.
Along with this:
broncobuster
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Inexplicably Hellboy II released a week ahead of The Dark Knight.
Some analysts are predicting a 58M to 66M 2nd weekend (for a 60 to 65% slide).
http://deadline.com/2016/03/batman-v-superman-second-weekend-box-office-gods-not-dead-2-richard-linklater-1201728455/
If that holds, will haters now shift their anger toward the 3rd weekend?
What? No way. That would be hilariously (for us) and depressingly (for WB) low.
What the hell were they thinking putting Justice League in 2017.
$66M isn't happening. Weekday drops are too large.
With Zack Snyder at the reigns. Getting out before Infinity War was never going to matter. It's not like The Avengers didn't already happen first.They're thinking about;
Maybe they want to get their film about a blue and grey space god/tyrant attacking Earth out before Marvel released their films about a gold and purple space god/tyrant attacking Earth.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Deadpool is not like every superhero film though. Much less spectacle, more character driven, and a heavy reliance on western humor and pop culture understanding. While in several markets that obviously worked in its favor, I think it would work in its detriment in China. Plus China doesn't have decades of superhero films dominating pop culture allowing for Deadpool to act as a strong and timely parody of/foil to the standardized superhero template.
Except Marvel has shown Thanos three times already and has been building up to him being the big bad since 2012 that people are still going to think Darkseid is a ripoff, even if Justice League releases first.
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