Was it only me, or was that not in this demo? I knew that was in 2.0, but I swear I couldn't do it anymore in Platinum.
Final Fantasy XV: Platinum Demo Thread
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Was it only me, or was that not in this demo? I knew that was in 2.0, but I swear I couldn't do it anymore in Platinum.
NoctisVsStar
Member
MultiJhonny
Banned
Yeah the event was awesome!
But yeah people are acting like they paid $60 for this demo.. when it was totally free. I do get that adding on to Duscae 2.0 would have been best but I mean in 6 months we will get the actual game and I am confident it will be the game we have all been waiting for.
Kinda, but not exactly. I'm mainly talking about canceling attack animations with the dodge roll, not the auto defense.
yeah, idk if i was doing something wrong but that wasn't in the demo at all
hope they bring it back for the final release. lemme dodge roll right in the middle of an attack square
NoctisVsStar
Member
I mean at the end where the attack connects and dodges.
Let me fire up the demo and find out
Yeah, something like that. If we could do that, but at anytime in the animation before the attack connects, would make a worlds of difference.
NoctisVsStar
Member
If you don't go in with the right mindset it's better to hold off at this point.
that'd probably be the best option if you don't wanna have a bad taste before the game. The biggest issues imo is performance, which can really hamper your enjoyment depending on how tolerant you are of it
Ghost Slayer
Member
They really need to update the demo to extend adult Noctis combat outside plaza battle and explain combat mechanic clearer. Lots of mechanic hidden in final battle that I still don't know how it works like air dodge. And goddamn SE, fix the delay button, this is action-RPG now.
They are above the main balcony of the palace. The first warp point you see in the building's front? You need to warp above it and drop down into it.
Dope thanks, I'll just go in blind then. Did the same thing with IX and many others so won't be too bad.
Admiral Woofington
Member
They hid two of the weapons in the middle of a boss fight?
Once you warp on to the building you are completely safe, so it's not that bad really
Yes, also I don't think you can get the Shuriken until you beat the boss once (you have the option of respawning him by stepping on a panel)?
Perfect Cha0s
Member
Yes. This demo is fucking weird.
The shurikan needs 250 crystals, the shield requires you to have beat the boss already and start it agian
RedRedSuit
Member
Interesting demo so far; more playful than I was expecting given all the heavy trailers I'd seen before. The Kingdom Hearts feel is obviously there.
I just made it outside after the Toy Story segment.
The visuals are concerning. Very choppy frame rate (PS4), and image quality around people's hair particularly is also rough.
Actual question: any insight on how likely they are to polish away those issues by release time?
(Precedent would indicate that a less-than-beautiful main offline numbered FF is nearly impossible... but it's has been a long time since the last one.)
I just made it outside after the Toy Story segment.
The visuals are concerning. Very choppy frame rate (PS4), and image quality around people's hair particularly is also rough.
Actual question: any insight on how likely they are to polish away those issues by release time?
(Precedent would indicate that a less-than-beautiful main offline numbered FF is nearly impossible... but it's has been a long time since the last one.)
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Didn't play Duscae. I thought this demo was okay up to the boss. Not terribly interesting.
Boss was hard since it doesn't make an effort to explain the mechanics beyond "attack with O, dodge with square" and all the prior enemies were extremely simple to fight. Still fun though once you start getting the hang of it. I struggled a ton against the level 15 boss the first time, but did a lot better a second time around.
Apparently I missed some stuff though, since I just fought with the weapons you start with. And I still don't really get how health works. At first it seemed like Resonance of Fate's scratch damage, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Also hope the inevitable PC port is good so I don't have to worry about IQ or performance.
Boss was hard since it doesn't make an effort to explain the mechanics beyond "attack with O, dodge with square" and all the prior enemies were extremely simple to fight. Still fun though once you start getting the hang of it. I struggled a ton against the level 15 boss the first time, but did a lot better a second time around.
Apparently I missed some stuff though, since I just fought with the weapons you start with. And I still don't really get how health works. At first it seemed like Resonance of Fate's scratch damage, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Also hope the inevitable PC port is good so I don't have to worry about IQ or performance.
I got the shield before I killed the boss. I also think I had more than 250 crystals before I started fighting him.
Then I must be remembering wrong.
NoctisVsStar
Member
UmbraeCruxis
Banned
Yeah, you have it flipped. Shuriken for beating boss once, shield is A silver plate unlock.
RedRedSuit
Member
Well, I am definitely puzzled by your statement on the visuals. On the PS4 it looks rather rough to me. Definitely nowhere near best-looking console game, my god.
Good thing is that the visual blahness is all technical, so I am hopeful it'll get fixed before release.
I'm almost positive I know what'll happen, but could you try attacking with the great-sword then immediately press square to roll dodge.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Sure give me a sec
LightofRohan
Member
I'm so confused how you can be positive about this demo. It was pretty awful. And what is with this crap of, "the combat was fun!", you hold circle. Like literally hold circle. I'm so confused.
The hair was nice and I am excited for Kingdom Hearts now, but this has me worried. This is by far the worse thing I've played on my PS4 thus far.
The hair was nice and I am excited for Kingdom Hearts now, but this has me worried. This is by far the worse thing I've played on my PS4 thus far.
Well, people are positive about the demo because it was pretty good.
Thanks for this.
That's what I thought would happen. Yeah, the dodge should have interrupted the swords animation but it seems like they made it so animations in process have priority over newly imputed commands. They really should think about changing that.
DarkLordMalik
Member
If this was your main complaint regarding the combat, then you obviously haven't played Episode Duscae.
Pejo
Gold Member
So I finally got a chance to put some time in with the demo....and I actually kinda liked it!
Combat still isn't great, but the music was fantastic, and the scenery was pretty. Once I respawned the giant a handful of times and experimented, I think I can see how the game can open up a bit. I actually liked single person combat a lot more than the group stuff in Duscae.
Still can't help but wish the battle system was more Tales-ish instead of just holding circle, and it baffles me that you're supposed to move your character around and be able to hit the D-pad to switch weapons mid combo. I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually, it's just an odd choice. The magic system was also pretty bad, specifically the aiming. I'd much rather just have the option to auto lock to a target and it just shoots the magic to where the target was when I press the button. The manual aiming sucks.
Otherwise though, it's serviceable. I'm not sure I'm going to love 50 hours of that combat, but we'll see how it shapes up. I was satisfied enough with the demo to warrant a purchase at least.
Combat still isn't great, but the music was fantastic, and the scenery was pretty. Once I respawned the giant a handful of times and experimented, I think I can see how the game can open up a bit. I actually liked single person combat a lot more than the group stuff in Duscae.
Still can't help but wish the battle system was more Tales-ish instead of just holding circle, and it baffles me that you're supposed to move your character around and be able to hit the D-pad to switch weapons mid combo. I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually, it's just an odd choice. The magic system was also pretty bad, specifically the aiming. I'd much rather just have the option to auto lock to a target and it just shoots the magic to where the target was when I press the button. The manual aiming sucks.
Otherwise though, it's serviceable. I'm not sure I'm going to love 50 hours of that combat, but we'll see how it shapes up. I was satisfied enough with the demo to warrant a purchase at least.
Yeah noticed this yesterday. I also really wish there was an aerial dodge in mid-air. Both pretty big problems really. Could get used to the combat, but the defensive and evasive part of it? I haven't been able to beat the boss without pretty much being killed yet.
LightofRohan
Member
I havent, cause it was on the disc of another game. This was the demo they released, but it was a fake version? Why release this?
I'll play through it again tho, cause I am truly baffled how people enjoyed this. Maybe I missed something.
RedRedSuit
Member
Well, imagine you're going into this cold -- you've never heard of FF or seen anything about this game. You merely heard a promising action JRPG is coming out, and you try this demo to see if you should buy the game.
Does this demo still blow you away?
If so, I don't understand what you value in games. How could it possibly blow you away "immediately"? I find that a strange reaction. Animations are superb? Really?
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In context, the demo was fine. I mean, the FF 12 demo that came with DQ didn't seem like anything special, but it was informative, and the actual game was mechanically and visually superb.
So I'm not down on XV... but blown away? Come on now.
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Normally I'd wonder why release something so iffy, as it could turn away potential buyers. However, this is FF. If it comes out to great reviews, this demo won't make any difference w.r.t. sales.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The boss had more interaction than "hold circle," but yeah, other enemies didn't even feel like they served a purpose since they were so non-threatening. Even to someone who didn't know how to play beyond "hold circle/dpad to change weapon."
It did feel like a more technical demo than anything else. The boss was fun though.
SirPenguin
Member
Just finished the demo - about 15min total
I'm sort of confused as to who this demo was meant for. At the very least it didn't really feel like it was meant for me, the casual observer who only just learned recently that XV was so close to release
I mean, was this suppose to feel like a tech demo? Complete with little in-game dev tools? I'm not so sure if that feeling was intended or not, especially because all things considered the tech they were showing off was actually pretty poor from a performance and texture standpoint
The combat was so odd. Like, for 90% of it you're just holding a button at blue things and I guess that's combat? The iron giant felt great and I thought the game was telling me that the real demo was about to start. Then the whole thing ended
Odd experience overall, and definitely an odd series of choices for a 'demo'. I'm way more confused and conflicted than I was 15min ago, and I barely knew anything about this game
I'm sort of confused as to who this demo was meant for. At the very least it didn't really feel like it was meant for me, the casual observer who only just learned recently that XV was so close to release
I mean, was this suppose to feel like a tech demo? Complete with little in-game dev tools? I'm not so sure if that feeling was intended or not, especially because all things considered the tech they were showing off was actually pretty poor from a performance and texture standpoint
The combat was so odd. Like, for 90% of it you're just holding a button at blue things and I guess that's combat? The iron giant felt great and I thought the game was telling me that the real demo was about to start. Then the whole thing ended
Odd experience overall, and definitely an odd series of choices for a 'demo'. I'm way more confused and conflicted than I was 15min ago, and I barely knew anything about this game
copelandmaster
Member
Guess what?
The Golem's abs jiggle.
Like DOA boobies. They have even less weight than that, actually.
Too lazy to gif/webm.
Shit's unreal. Those don't work like that, Square.
The Golem's abs jiggle.
Like DOA boobies. They have even less weight than that, actually.
Too lazy to gif/webm.
Shit's unreal. Those don't work like that, Square.
Actually yes, this was supposed to be just a little tech demo. Why they decided this was going to be the first exposure of the game to the majority of the public, we'll never know. It was a bad idea though.
LightofRohan
Member
But even as a technical demo it failed, as a game environment artist the environments did nothing for me and they did a lot of old amatuer tricks. The lighting engine they are using is pretty nice at times, but they don't use it well and overly rely on their reflectance. And the framerate was horrible so that kind of makes it all pointless anyways.
Some of the effects were nice and character models were solid. But I dunno, still feel like I took crazy pills.
RedRedSuit
Member
If ever there was a perfect demonstration of what I just posted on the previous page, this post is it.
Out of context, this demo is just a weird anti-sales tool.
However, as a way to communicate some things to those watching FF XV's every development for years, it was OK.
In the end, this will come out to either bad reviews or good reviews or great reviews. So this demo won't matter sales-wise.
LowParry
Member
It's just a bad demo. Especially for new people. They aren't getting the full combat experience that you get to play in 2.0. We should of get like a 3.0 version of Duscae with a more evolved combat, group, and the small additions with magic. Ah well. It is what it is. It's hard to sell someone on the game with this new demo though. It's got pretty effects, weather and all that and a smidge of basic combat.