Wkd BO 0325-2716 - Batman vs Superman (or Grindr hookup gone sideways) bests Bunny
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Title for next thread should simply be "Batman v. Superman continues to break records..."
Can Crusher
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I don't get thins "I hope they don't ape MCU, I love a darker tone". Nolan's Batman has a dark tone. The fucking tone isn't the problem.
Bobby Roberts
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I think it's possible. I don't know about probable. But I also know that large swaths of the viewing audience really do not give a fuck about this movie.
I said 350/800 was about as low as this thing could go before people at WB start getting fucking upset behind closed doors. That might be around where we are right now.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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$17M today would be such a disaster I can't even imagine it. I think at worst case it'll do $19M.
'This will be the end of BvS's frontloading", says increasingly nervous man for the 7th time this week.
When execs panic bad things happen.
Bobby Roberts
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This really is the inverse of those Force Awakens threads, isn't it.
Weird question that isn't even at all pertinent but pops up in my head: When WB does eventually try starting over (again) with Superman... do they just say "fuck it" and bring back the Williams score?
It's a damn shame that Zimmer's full-blast hero theme is going to be consigned to its one in-film appearance as the end credits to Man of Steel.
For Batman, I agree. For Superman, I disagree completely. The tone is absolutely a problem.
NealMcCauley
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My gut says even $48.5 may be on the high end. Anecdotal but the reserved seating screenings near me aren't showing much of a bump from yesterday.
My biggest issue is when people use that line for films that review well - Avatar, Titanic, the MCU, etc.
There also plenty of films that reviewed well, made BO bank, and aren't very good at all but making that argument requires thought and, ya know, actual arguments rather than repeating some inane and empty rule like box office doesn't equal quality.
Primethius
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Sorry, I was joking and making fun of posts earlier in the release week.
Already Torn
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Chocolate, especially dark chocolate, isn't particularly bad for your teeth or for your body. It rots your teeth about as much as normal milk does.
Tone is and isn't a problem for Batman. For instance, I'm surprised there's been less controversy this time around about how much the film is merchandised to kids versus how not kid-friendly the film is, especially given I remember that being a Big Deal with Nolan's films.
Bear in mind - Warner NEEDS kids to go and see Justice League.
Bear in mind - Warner NEEDS kids to go and see Justice League.
Bobby Roberts
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It's not all that inane and empty, though. Especially not for opening weekend. Especially not when you take into account the large preponderance of films that aren't big-budget summer tentpoles.
Can Crusher
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You're absolutely right. I am a monkey.
We really need to put the definition for "bombing" in the OP for these threads
Already Torn
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And a movie like BvS would be even more interesting if there was a difference in attitude between the two heroes I think.
"Nose diving" doesn't really roll off the tongue. Sinking?
Bobby Roberts
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Superman smiles like three times in this movie.
He smiled around what, four? five times in Man of steel?
I shouldn't be able to count that kind of thing on one hand.
He smiled around what, four? five times in Man of steel?
I shouldn't be able to count that kind of thing on one hand.
Kenzodielocke
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Can I get an honest answer where this movie will stand at the end ? 800, 900m, lower?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Ooof. Forget $1B, $900M may not happen.
Edit: Actually, I think it's a lock to miss $900M unless a miracle happens today.
I find it empty in the context I'm describing though, which is people trying to tear down successful movies they happen to not like. That point is never brought up for successful movies that people DO happen to like. It also ignores the fact that some times, a strong BO performance is at least in part due to the high quality of a film.
ViewtifulJC
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Pessimistic: $800m
Optimistic: $900m
Realistic: $850m
Fantastic(as in, the realm of pure fantasy): $1B
Sibersk Esto
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Most of the time when Superman smiles, he's about to beat the fuck out of somebody.
Kind of creepy.
Kind of creepy.
Yeah. Let's be honest here, even Batman & Robin didn't fit the definition of "bomb". It was a marginal success. Same for Amazing Spider-man 2. They made a profit. What they mostly were was a DISAPPOINTMENT. They didn't meet expectations, critically or commercially.
This was NEVER going to be a "bomb", but it will most certainly wind up underperforming compared to WB's predictions and expectations.
MutonCommander
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Maybe we should be thanking Snyder after all.
Bobby Roberts
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True indeed.
I mean the movie likely will make some money back but for what this is, it absolutely is bombing. Uwe Boll could have directed the movie and it would have opened to 500m its first weekend. The first live action movie featuring Batman and Superman was bulletproof its first weekend. And even then it came in drastically lower than expectations because bad word of mouth was already hitting it by Sunday.
Kenzodielocke
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The greatest fuck up in the history of the world.
Bobby Roberts
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MistaBowaa
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A least he smiled more than Cloud did in Advent Children.
Again, that's not a bomb. I'm sorry if you're not getting this.
But is it a bomba
Bobby Roberts
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I dont' listen to hip-hop
900 mil is unlikely after it has fallen apart completely domestically and in China.
800 is probably the safest bet right now. 850 is still possible.
Yeah. I think what threw the early estimates yesterday was the fact that it was still spring break in a lot of the country, so matinee showings came in higher than they would otherwise. You have to take that into account when projecting the rest of the day/weekend. We're seeing what BvS does when it isn't propped up with spring break.
Which means the comps from next week to this week are going to be at least as brutal.
Ooof. Forget $1B, $900M may not happen.
Edit: Actually, I think it's a lock to miss $900M unless a miracle happens today.
Okay, that's just a horror show. Friday's international was barely above Thursday - it dropped even harder outside the US as it did inside. And yeah, there's not a path to $900m now, not with that kind of figure leading into the weekend.
captainnapalm
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And let's be clear that's not the disaster Hollywood accounting would have you believe it is. No one would be in the movie business if making more than three times a movie's budget didn't mean a profit.
BronsonLee
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*uppercut*
I would like for them to give it to people that don't hate superman.
Ooof. Forget $1B, $900M may not happen.
Edit: Actually, I think it's a lock to miss $900M unless a miracle happens today.
If Deadpool had China, I wonder if it could have beaten BvS worldwide.
You put Wonder Woman, Batman, AND Superman all in one film and use it as a springboard to launch your Justice League series of movies and it does this poorly in its second week, that's a bit of a bomb by the metric of "some of the most iconic superheroes of all time in a huge budget film striving for Marvel bucks".
By WB expectation standards, this is a bomb.
Bobby Roberts
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Huh, haven't checked on that in awhile:
Batman v Superman Comic-Con Trailer: 65mil views
Batman v Superman Teaser: 27mil views
Batman v Superman Trailer 2: 26mil views
Sad Affleck: 20mil views
Batman v Superman Final Trailer: 18mil views
Give it to Abrams again
Can Crusher
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Zack Snyder going "What are we going to do with this guy? He's a tough cookie" says it all about his views on Superman.
BronsonLee
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Betty killed BvS
It's a disaster for the DCCU going forward though.
George Oscar Bluth II
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"He has the power to wipe out the entire DC slate and if we believe there is even a one percent chance that he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty."
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