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[MoonFrog]

I'm, generally speaking, not too big on remasters, because I tend to have the original version of the games I'm interested in that are getting remastered. That said, I did just get TP HD as a gift last month and enjoyed playing that game with it not looking so crappy (really has not aged well compared to other GCN and Wii greats imo). And I definitely loved that Zelda collector's disc on GCN, having missed all four games on it to not having had a NES or a N64 (just a SNES). The point is, I get the "I don't want a system that is supported with a horde of Wii U remasters" sentiment and, moreover, I share it. The thing is, there are people who are on the other side like I was with those Zelda games on GCN and there are also just things that could really use the graphics bump like TP (even with the bump being relatively lazy in that case). Personally, I think Wii U games look great, but I'm the sort of person who doesn't notice graphics issues until I've gone back after having seen the new thing so maybe I'm crazy. But there are a lot of people who missed Wii U so a slew of remasters makes great sense towards building a quality catalog fast. I just hope they are supplemental to a strong, new lineup instead of crutch because Nintendo really needs to impress to make NX a success and I also want new games .

The only explanation is Sakurai's just biased. I bet Ridley killed his parents or something.

Is he Samus? Hmmm...would seem he has some self hate going on if that's the case with the paltry Metroid music selection and until-recently broken Samus in Smash 4.

 

[Nanashrew]

Ya'll are thinking too big, let's go something more ideal and cut through the messy expectations.

The character we really need is Takamaru.

 

[-Horizon-]

Ya'll are thinking too big, let's go something more ideal and cut through the messy expectations.

The character we really need is Takamaru.

You misspelled Miku

 

[Nanashrew]

You misspelled Miku

She'd likely get revealed in a leak.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

I know several people banking on them re-releasing those games on NX, because they didn't get a Wii U. They waited and waited and then the NX is announced.

THing is, those games did sell well, and extremely well for that install base. Of course they want to offer their hot tickets to new customers.

It's not what's going to get people to buy the NX though. Everyone assumed Wii U ports were coming, nothing's new. We know nothing at all about original NX games, why even make that assumption just because it's confirmed it's getting some Wii U hits ported?

What assumption am I making?

 

[-Horizon-]

She'd likely get revealed in a leak.

What you did there, I see it.

 

[IntelliHeath]

But that's just it. Barring any potential characters that were near completed & cut due to the 3DS, why waste potential newcomers on a port of an older game that you could save for Smash 5? They've already gone above & beyond the call of duty for the DLC characters, which is likely why the port is likely happening in the first place. But on top of the possibility that Sakurai may not come back for the port, they'd also be painting themselves into an even smaller corner in terms of potential newcomers for Smash 5.

Think about your statement carefully. "Why waste potential newcomers on older game that you could save for Marvel Vs. Capcom 4?" when they were working on Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3. I understand that we aren't even sure if we are going to get brand new characters or not but I always thought Smash for 3DS and Smash for Wii U > Smash NX in term as MVC3 > UMVC3 and SF4 > SSF4.

It's like asking for Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 without brand new 12 characters, just hell for it.

Sakurai already clarified how long his vacation would be, and he even said that he's working on a new project right now. I felt that it's not coincidence with Smash NX rumor and Sakurai confirmed a new project at almost same time.

“Breather”

I’ve been developing the DLC characters for Smash for 3DS/ Wii U. I’ve been very thorough when making these characters, so I needed a lot of time. I haven’t been able to take a vacation since starting this project, but it’s almost over! I want to enjoy every day like it’s a Sunday. However, that doesn’t mean my next job hasn’t been decided already. So it’s less like I’m taking a break, and more like I’m taking a breather for a moment.

 

[doop_]

This week (it's a new week where I am anyway) will make or break these rumors of an NX related event by the end of the month being announced mid-April.

We're also getting close to Nintendo's FY 2015 Fiscal Year Earnings Relase on April 27. Little more than two weeks left.

Oh god this week is going to be living hell !

 

[IntelliHeath]

While working on his new game he can overlook the development of the DLC.
Maybe he had laid down some basics before moving on as well.
And yeah, Smash would sell on its own, but likely being a port of smash 4 which has sold its fair share already so I'd imagine it has already made its money already.
Having Smash be on every NX would be pretty big, the most feature packed fighting game in the market and a celebration of Nintendo and gaming would add value to the NX and expose people to the brand.
Fire Emblem has its popularity thanks to Smash and I imagine it has helped many others on Nintendo systems as well.
Including and Inkling (a glaring omission from the DLC) would help Splatoon as a brand, Would help Bayonetta cement herself as a Nintendo character helping her sell more in the future if they go forward with a 3rd game, and it would help Final Fantasy on Nintendo if SE decides to bring it back
Lots of benefits to including it.

Exactly, Smash Bros is a great cross-promotions for all franchises. Remember how Bayonetta 1 & 2 copies were sold out pretty fast after Bayonetta got confirmed for the game. I did bought the game because she's in the game.

Imagine how they could do cross-promotion with other franchise for next 8-10 months, like brand new pokemon in Smash Bros from Pokemon Sun and Moon (Grass Pokemon) and Rhythm Heaven representative when they're going to release RH: MegaMix in other regions. There are so many potential advertisements right there.

That comes with the territory, but what I'm saying is that it's in Nintendo's best interest to ensure that such a thing happens. A straight port would be what it is, but I'm fairly certain all of the data they have shows that character reveals are hugely exciting and would influence a lot of potential buyers.

I'm not totally certain obviously of what the port will be, but I feel certain of what it should be. Keep expectations low while hoping for the best.

All things considered I wouldn't be surprised if we never see a "Smash 5", and that the current SSB game is just the basis for the future of the series going forth.

Exactly. Also, hope for the best but expect for the worst is my stance right now.

I think Sakurai made it clear that we won't get a playable Ridley. And to be honest, it makes sense. Ridley's meant to be a giant menacing boss, that's just how he's designed. And Female Link, see Post #4487.


Smash 4's gonna get stale eventually, regardless of how much life Nintendo tries to pump into it. Hell, some of the FGC are already getting sick of it. We will see a Smash 5 at some point in the future. If it'll be heavily based on Smash 4's engine or made from scratch is the question.

Well, FGC isn't in majority when it come down to total sales.

Melee HD is happening, friends.

Easy money.

Melee HD with online mode, patch changes (remove wavedash, L-cancel, etc) and no gamecube controller support.

Please Understand!

 

[Graphics Horse]

This week (it's a new week where I am anyway) will make or break these rumors of an NX related event by the end of the month being announced mid-April.

We're also getting close to Nintendo's FY 2015 Fiscal Year Earnings Relase on April 27. Little more than two weeks left.

Do you think we should expect a Nikkei leak first?

 

[Roo]

Do you think we should expect a Nikkei leak first?

Do not they come after the 20th?
At that point we'd know if the presentation/direct is real or fake.

 

[Rösti]

Do you think we should expect a Nikkei leak first?

Perhaps. I'm expecting Nintendo to announce (not to the public directly, but it will be available) the venue of the FY 2015 Financial Results Briefing this week, so some minor details could perhaps come in conjunction with that.

 

[Neoxon]

Think about your statement carefully. "Why waste potential newcomers on older game that you could save for Marvel Vs. Capcom 4?" when they were working on Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3. I understand that we aren't even sure if we are going to get brand new characters or not but I always thought Smash for 3DS and Smash for Wii U > Smash NX in term as MVC3 > UMVC3 and SF4 > SSF4.

It's like asking for Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 without brand new 12 characters, just hell for it.

Sakurai already clarified how long his vacation would be, and he even said that he's working on a new project right now. I felt that it's not coincidence with Smash NX rumor and Sakurai confirmed a new project at almost same time.

But you have to consider that in this scenario, it would be less of a Super version of Smash 4 & more of a port of the Wii U game.

 

[Griss]

Is he Samus? Hmmm...would seem he has some self hate going on if that's the case with the paltry Metroid music selection and until-recently broken Samus in Smash 4.

You know I wasn't convinced that the workaholic Sakurai would actually take the holiday he had been talking about for so long, but when I saw Samus get a buff I knew he had to be on vacation.

 

[IntelliHeath]

But you have to consider that in this scenario, it would be less of a Super version of Smash 4 & more of a port of the Wii U game.

I'm talking about in term of contents being added.

 

[Terrell]

So... is this basically a Smash thread now, or what?

 

[Dark Cloud]

To me this is a big week also. I know the one rumor where it was said they would announce the NX event this week for late April.

I just want that to be true. If it happens I'll have to relook the rumor again.

 

[Nanashrew]

So... is this basically a Smash thread now, or what?

We bounce around here and there.

Last night the topic was about how the shareable software would work and what might be the best course of action to take

 

[IntelliHeath]

So... is this basically a Smash thread now, or what?

My apologies! It's not my intention to turn it into Smash thread. Personally, I'm only hyped for Nintendo NX because of multiplayer trifecta; Smash NX, Mario Kart 9 and Splatoon NX. Just that Smash NX rumor is pretty much coming from reliable source, and the situation around Smash NX is very unusual so we basically just don't know what to expects which made it more interesting to discuss about. Also Emily Rogers basically hinted that Smash NX is coming as well

I don't know why but it's pretty hard to discuss about Mario Kart 9 because it's pretty hard to predict what they are going to do with next Mario Kart.

 

[Angry Chair]

Eh, I honestly think people here are seriously overestimating the appeal of a Nintendo machine with competitive hardware. Remember the Gamecube and N64?

I don't think for one second that competent hardware is going to suddenly make remasters of games that did little to help Wii U sales help sell Nintendo's next system. Their money is better spent just releasing a new Splatoon, a new Mario Kart.

They're not in the same position the rest of the industry was coming off of PS3 and Xbox 360. They need to be pumping out brand new titles in droves as soon as this system drops. New and exciting stuff, not Wii U's sloppy seconds. The only port that I think makes absolute sense is Smash Bros.

What makes you think Nintendo can pump out new titles when they could barely make anything for the Wii U? I believe Nintendo moved most of its Wii U projects to the NX long ago, but that's not going to be enough for the console's life, especially since third-party support isn't a given and a shared library with the NX handheld doesn't seem as likely as it did a few months ago. Porting games isn't going to hamper Nintendo's new output anyway as other studios are going to be handling the brunt of the porting. Ports of popular online games (Smash, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Mario Maker and maybe even Pokken) should be there near launch to convince Wii U owners to ditch their console and others should be ported throughout the NX's first year or two to keep the console afloat.

As much you may believe it, the Wii U's problem wasn't its software. Yes, it has no variety and some of Nintendo's worst efforts ever, but it has a handful of high quality games that can find success on the NX.

 

[thefro]

Here's what I've got off the top of my head as far as potential weeks where we could see a reveal.

Are there any other big events I'm missing? Video game/tech related events, things that crowd out Nintendo's message? Big events in Japan?

4/10: I presume if we get a reveal event, there will be more than a few days notice.
4/17: PAX East on April 22-24.
4/24: Financial Earnings release on the 27th/Briefing on the 28th, 1st Golden Week Holiday is on the 29th
5/1: Golden Week in Japan
5/8:
5/15:
5/22:
5/29: Memorial Day Weekend in the US. Typically seems like a slow news cycle week.
6/5: Basically running into E3; will be pre-E3 announcements happening. You'll want to have NX revealed before this point or you might as well wait for E3.
6/12: E3 week

Also keep in mind Nintendo likes to reveal things in the middle of the week, especially on Thursdays. I don't think they've ever had a Monday (outside of maybe an E3 mini-direct) or Friday event that I can recall.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

We bounce around here and there.

Last night the topic was about how the shareable software would work and what might be the best course of action to take

Well be prepared for this thread to be locked soon.

 

[sfried]

...I thought this was about WiiU's achitucture? How do ports and releases fit into this?

In fact, given how different x86 is from the Wii U's, wouldn't porting to that instruction set actually be tougher? Why not just build it from the ground up at that point?

 

[Nanashrew]

Well be prepared for this thread to be locked soon.

Yeah. There really hasn't been much to talk about. The Reddit leakers have all been fake, and the one that got verified in the OP got unverified because of red flags they were putting off.

The only one that can be trusted is LCGeek.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Well be prepared for this thread to be locked soon.

I have been expecting this thread to be locked for few days after reddit user got unverified.

 

[maxcriden]

To me this is a big week also. I know the one rumor where it was said they would announce the NX event this week for late April.

I just want that to be true. If it happens I'll have to relook the rumor again.

Which rumor was it? I'm curious if it's one we've already pretty much debunked in here in case you just didn't see when we did. ☺

 

[WiiU0706]

Hey Rosti is you still around, what exactly could Nikkei leak?


Also if anyone is coming to smash from Metroid it should be Dark Samus.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Heath, do we have a percentage of people who bought the Smash DLC characters?

Nope, not yet. I don't think Nintendo is going to release those specific informations. However SourceGaming is going to do the polls to see which dlc characters people actually purchase, I think.

 

[James Scott]

...I thought this was about WiiU's achitucture? How do ports and releases fit into this?

In fact, given how different x86 is from the Wii U's, wouldn't porting to that instruction set actually be tougher? Why not just build it from the ground up at that point?

Iwata mentioned something about "absorbing the Wi U's OS or architecture"...or something like that so despite being actually modern, porting from the Wii U will be easy-ish

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

Well be prepared for this thread to be locked soon.

No joke, I had a dream the other night the thread got locked because it had turned into just remaster-discussion and that sort of thing. Hopefully that doesn't happen! (Maybe a sign I need to get off GAF..)

Which rumor was it? I'm curious if it's one we've already pretty much debunked in here in case you just didn't see when we did. ☺

I think Rosti's the one who's been hypothesizing it, since Nintendo should be announcing details of their FY briefing this month and they might also say "we'll reveal info on NX at the briefing".

 

[Terrell]

Eh, I honestly think people here are seriously overestimating the appeal of a Nintendo machine with competitive hardware. Remember the Gamecube and N64?

I remember that the idea of them being "competitive" was laughable at the time of their release. Hindsight is 20/20, but in the moment when it actually mattered, we had devs not supporting N64 because of the storage medium and Gamecube because of backwards notions of what the Nintendo audience was in a post-PlayStation world where multi-plats were a gift instead of an expectation, with consumers believing that lacking certain games, quite specifically GTA3 in the Gamecube era, meant that it was garbage-tier hardware, whether or not that was factually accurate.

Then Nintendo showed these people what real "garbage-tier" hardware is (said consumers' words, not mine). Which is why you see people harkening back to the GameCube now, despite so many of them who likely worked so hard to make it seem like less than it was when it was for sale, and most assuredly the reason why Nintendo believed graphics don't matter: because even when they gave them to people, their hardware was (and by some is) still called garbage to this very day.

So yeah, I think people are ready for something a bit different than Nintendo's last 10 years of putting people in their place about what it looks like when a hardware maker legitimately makes an effort not to use current hardware components.

I don't think for one second that competent hardware is going to suddenly make remasters of games that did little to help Wii U sales help sell Nintendo's next system. Their money is better spent just releasing a new Splatoon, a new Mario Kart.

That money on a new Splatoon and a new Mario Kart is already being spent. What's a few pennies to maximize the sales of things that already show appeal in spite of the hardware it's on?

They're not in the same position the rest of the industry was coming off of PS3 and Xbox 360. They need to be pumping out brand new titles in droves as soon as this system drops. New and exciting stuff, not Wii U's sloppy seconds. The only port that I think makes absolute sense is Smash Bros.

And ports somehow preclude them from also releasing new and exciting games because...? I mean, no other hardware maker seemed to have any issue with offering both.

 

[Neoxon]

Well, FGC isn't in majority when it come down to total sales.

But the FGC are the ones who keep fighting games alive. And if they grow tired of a game, imagine the casuals. The FGC doesn't make up the majority of sales, but they mean more than you give them credit for.

At this point, a separate thread for the rumored ports may be needed. It won't be long before the ModBots come for this thread since the Redditor apparently lost his verification.

 

[Hero of Legend]

I personally think if they don't unveil the NX this month, basically if May comes without an unveiling, they should just save it all for E3.

I'd rather one gigantic legendary showing than it being split into two events so close ot each other. I felt this way about E3 last year where they had a Direct two weeks prior to E3 and it felt like the Direct was better than the main event if I'm honest. It would've been a lot better if it was all together.

Hopefully regardless everything is outstanding.

Just to clarify my opinion above.

May 31st/June 1st Direct:

- Mario & Sonic Rio
- Bravely Second
- Little Battlers eXperience
- Chibi-Robo: Zip Lash

E3:

- Star Fox Zero's first showing (was announced at E3 2014)
- Mario Tennis Ultra Smash
- Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival
- Hyrule Warriors Legends (leaked prior)
- The Legend of Zelda: Tri-Force Heroes
- Yo-Kai Watch (was already announced via PR prior)

The only highlight of E3 was Mario Tennis Ultra Smash (and look how that turned out), while I was super happy to see Rio and Chibi-Robo back, and also to see LBX FINALLY come over.

I dunno.

 

[JoeM86]

I personally think if they don't unveil the NX this month, basically if May comes without an unveiling, they should just save it all for E3.

I'd rather one gigantic legendary showing than it being split into two events so close ot each other. I felt this way about E3 last year where they had a Direct two weeks prior to E3 and it felt like the Direct was better than the main event if I'm honest. It would've been a lot better if it was all together.

Hopefully regardless everything is outstanding.

Just to clarify my opinion above.

May 31st/June 1st Direct:

- Mario & Sonic Rio
- Bravely Second
- Little Battlers eXperience
- Chibi-Robo: Zip Lash

E3:

- Star Fox Zero's first showing (was announced at E3 2014)
- Mario Tennis Ultra Smash
- Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival
- Hyrule Warriors Legends (leaked prior)
- The Legend of Zelda: Tri-Force Heroes
- Yo-Kai Watch (was already announced via PR prior)

The only highlight of E3 was Mario Tennis Ultra Smash (and look how that turned out), while I was super happy to see Rio and Chibi-Robo back, and also to see LBX FINALLY come over.

I dunno.

The May 31st Direct also had the first actual showing of Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon

 

[Hero of Legend]

The May 31st Direct also had the first actual showing of Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon

Oh, right.

 

[jonno394]

So I take it if a direct isn't announced in the next few days, most of these "leaks" will be debunked? I'm sure I read a couple last week sounding out a "direct to be announced in next few days" style thing

Edit - must have missed a lot of debunking in this thread lol. Time to go back an reread

 

[Roo]

So I take it if a direct isn't announced in the next few days, most of these "leaks" will be debunked? I'm sure I read a couple last week sounding out a "direct to be announced in next few days" style thing

Basically, yeah.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

This week (it's a new week where I am anyway) will make or break these rumors of an NX related event by the end of the month being announced mid-April.

We're also getting close to Nintendo's FY 2015 Fiscal Year Earnings Relase on April 27. Little more than two weeks left.

why?

 

[ReyVGM]

why?

Why indeed...

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[Spyder_Monkey]

why?

Because I got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell NX news.

 

[GamerJM]

https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/719406817927778304

oh shit @.@

 

[ReyVGM]

https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/719406817927778304

oh shit @.@

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That's like... your opinion man.
-Lebowski (The Dude).

 

[wonderful103]

https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/719406817927778304

oh shit @.@

It's protected (post content?).
Hopefully it's about a port of epic dumpster bear to nx

 

[Roo]

https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/719406817927778304

oh shit @.@

Private tweets... what is it?

 

[whipihguh]

https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/719406817927778304

oh shit @.@

E3 can't come soon enough.

Private tweets... what is it?

 

[GamerJM]

Not sure if I want to post what it is....I forgot Emily locked her Twitter, she probably doesn't want randos to see it. Though judging from her profile it seems more like she just doesn't want randos in her mentions.

 

[EloquentM]

The Twitter is private. Someone post it in email tags

Edit: tweet is hot air at this point.

 

[Silent_Ocarina]

Can someone maybe put it in email tags or something?

Edit: Eh, it's just empty words to me at this point. I'm just going to wait for the receipts.

 

[The Maverick]

Jesus, locked twitter accounts? What does the tweet say? Otherwise this thread may as well be locked.

 

[wonderful103]

Jesus, locked twitter accounts? What does the tweet say? Otherwise this thread may as well be locked.

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