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[so1337]

Meanwhile at Sony headquarters...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9B7BQWnZJs

This whole thing strikes me as a very "old Sony" type of idea.

 

[Netherscourge]

So, go buy a $900 4K TV and a $400 NEO and enjoy your $1300 resolution bump?


-nope

 

[Daft Punk]

I've known this for months

Surprise no one picked up this in last thread

I'm gonna need you to talk some more sir....

 

[badb0y]

I don't think you know how any of this works.

I think I know more than you.

 

[Plinko]

You people downplaying the upgrades being serious here?

The jump in GPU is about 100%~ and CPU looks like it was clocked straight up by about 30%~.

For reference Intel has been squeezing us with 5% improvements for like the last 5 years and I don't think the GTX 980 Ti is even 100% faster than the GTX 780 Ti.

The numbers aren't impressive in the least.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

What about all those cross gen titles from a couple of years ago? Did Monolith target the PS3/360 as a base when they released Shadow of Mordor? Titanfall?

Because the new user base were going to be more active .

 

[LordofPwn]

So trinity must be their code name for the new vita or its their codename for the external PSVR box.

This rumor sounds good. E3 gonna be good.

 

[High Fry Frow]

I highly doubt we're going to be seeing any substantial number of games rendered at 1440p. That's nearly twice the pixel count of 1080p.

 

[Krakatoa]

Will the scaler be able to upscale games to 4k? Hope so.

 

[zsynqx]

Some of this info same as I heard.

But dont know everything

Okay

Any idea when they are planning to launch the new console?

In fact, any other info would be much appreciated

 

[Apoleptica]

Hopefully the spec bump doesn't mean that the revision won't be much slimmer and quieter than the OG ps4.

 

[-Horizon-]

still amazes me that info on the ps4k keeps coming yet the NX is pretty much tumbleweeds

 

[MMaRsu]

Gross Sony. id rather go PC only rather than buy an updates console every three years. Think of the dev cuycles lol, where to aim for? A consol3 with two, three different specs?

Ridiculous. Hope people dont buy this crap.

 

[Pooya]

I'm not tech savvy, but how substantial is the jump here?

It's like exactly 2x PS4. Two duct taped together


it's big.

 

[wapplew]

You people downplaying the upgrades being serious here?

The jump in GPU is about 100%~ and CPU looks like it was clocked straight up by about 30%~.

For reference Intel has been squeezing us with 5% improvements for like the last 5 years and I don't think the GTX 980 Ti is even 100% faster than the GTX 780 Ti.

100% and 30% doesn't sound impressive for a .5 upgrade.
If a normal gen bump 800%-1000%, half gen should get 300%-400%.

 

[TimeEffect]

If games run at 60 fps, Im in.

60 fps bloodborne 2 please

Would ND be able to patch UC4 SP to 60 fps if they wanted to?

 

[0ptimusPayne]

Im actually pretty excited for this, If they can get the cost to stick at $399 like the rumors suggested. I see a permanent OG ps4 price drop coming E3, and a "surprise" reveal of the ps4k as an upgrade option. I just really want more stable frame rates/60fps option and 4k bluray support.

 

[SerTapTap]

So, go buy a $900 4K TV and a $400 NEO and enjoy your $1300 resolution bump?


-nope

The games won't be 4K lol. This is a box for people with/who want to buy a 4K TV and want to get a $400-500 PS4k over literally just a 4K blu ray player that also costs $400. A PS2 situation

 

[RoboPlato]

Sounds good. Decent upgrade to CPU and bandwidth but that GPU bump is big. What is it, almost 4Tf?

I do like how Sony has guidelines for the upgrades for both sets of users. Smart move.

 

[bananafactory]

PS4 NEO IS A BEAST

 

[AcademicSaucer]

It's already running! Take your ps4 to any gamestop or bestbuy and they'll offer you credit today.

I already sold my PS4 when the news about this thing started alongside the few games I had for the thing. Overall I got my money back and over $60 in profit.

I expect the OG PS4 to lose value fast once the NEO/PS4K is formally announced.

Now I hope for Ni no Kuni to not be exclusive and KH3 to be on PC or NX

 

[Plinko]

I'm still stunned the original leak came from a Gamestop convention.

 

[Menitta]

If this is a good enough upgrade and there's more benefit than just improved performance, than I can see myself getting one eventually. E3 is going to be a trip this year.

 

[Ray Down]

Entertainment box made by entertainment company Sony will receive an upgrade box for high end entertainment like 4K media playback, VR, and buzzword.

More news at 11.

And it won't "backfire" or be a "disaster".

Yep, I think people here who think this will bomb will be surprised.

FFXV peeps:



Awesome shit.

Yep, SE just do it.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

Highly doubt it.

I believe in Evilore and Evilore's Top Men. Bring on June.

I just hope I'm right.

 

[Soapbox Killer]

The NX had better best these specs as well. Seems solid but not upgrade worthy if you've already taken the plunge on the OG4

 

[Proelite]

4.3 teraflops. Improved teraflops.

 

[Fess]

I'm not tech savvy, but how substantial is the jump here?

Enough to start an internal console war just inside the PS4 user base. This is huge. (in the worst kind of way, imo)

 

[chaosblade]

100% and 30% doesn't sound impressive for a .5 upgrade.
If a normal gen bump 800%-1000%, half gen should get 300%-400%.

This only makes sense if you expect people to pay 300-400% more, the performance improvements on components aren't there yet.

 

[mugurumakensei]

Sounds good. Decent upgrade to CPU and bandwidth but that GPU bump is big. What is it, almost 4Tf?

I do like how Sony has guidelines for the upgrades for both sets of users. Smart move.

Over 4TF. 4.2TF.

 

[boredandlazy]

This should alleviate a lot of people's fears and worries.

It should. But it won't.

 

[-Horizon-]

Someone explain to me how big/little of a jump this is in terms of DBZ

 

[AlanzTalon]

So, go buy a $900 4K TV and a $400 NEO and enjoy your $1300 resolution bump?


-nope

Or...already have a 4k Sony TV, and was thinking about getting a PS4...so now I'm gonna get me a PS4 once the NEO version comes out.

 

[Instro]

This is a great chance of MS to regain the specs advantage if they decided to go with Zen and Polaris with the Xbox1.5, assuming they're willing the spend the money and can ensure BC with the OG Xbox One.

That's a pipe dream.

 

[ffdgh]

Glad to see there won't be any exclusive "neo" games.

still amazes me that info on the ps4k keeps coming yet the NX is pretty much tumbleweeds

Horizon please. Remember who/what their mascot is.

 

[DarkConfidant]

Neo, Morpheus lol who the hell is obsessed with the Matrix at Sony

The Matrix sold a lot of PS2s, so maybe they're just grateful.

 

[Golgo 13]

60fps of bust. IDC about 4k

Until someone else confirms otherwise, I don't think the new specs will even be enough to push most 30FPS games out now on the PS4 to 60FPS.

Slightly higher clock speed, a better GPU yes. Did the PS4 really need more memory bandwidth though? And is a %10 upjerk gonna do anything worthwhile?

 

[On Demand]

What a waste of time. The specs aren't even that different. It's basically still a PS4.

Why not just wait a few years and release PS5? Ugh.

 

[JStein0222]

Someone explain to me how big/little of a jump this is in terms of DBZ

Ooh yeah this would be helpful

 

[Plinko]

Yep, I think people here who think this will bomb will be surprised.

With 4K being in a tiny amount of homes in the US and predicted to be in only 10% of homes in three years, I guess I don't get why people would rush out to buy this thing. I think the amount of people who care about. 60 fps is vastly overestimated on this board.

 

[DavidDesu]

This is a great chance of MS to regain the specs advantage if they decided to go with Zen and Polaris with the Xbox1.5, assuming they're willing the spend the money and can ensure BC with the OG Xbox One.

Meanwhile Sony is keeping players on their system with better exclusives, a wider slate of games including more indies, and fundamentally a whole new way to play with VR which Microsoft seem unwilling to commit to at the moment. If they truly leapfrog PS4 NEO many players will stay on board and simply upgrade to PS5 three or so years down the road, which will leapfrog the Xbox 1.5 again upon release. PS2 was underpowered next to the real Xbox 1 and it continued on very successfully.

 

[StereoVsn]

Surely the CPU being a moderate improvement helps them to reel in developer's ambitions for the console. GPU improvements directly increase framerate and resolution possibilities, huge CPU increases fundamentally alters the possible types of games we could see on the device which would be impossible to achieve well on the base PS4. I think it's a clever push toward better performance but without altering the "deal" too much and keep the games able to run well on both but with effectively higher settings a la PC games.

Huh, that's actually a very good point. Keeps the price cheaper and ensures devs couldn't go balls to the wall ambitious and left 50 million (by the time this thing is out) regular PS4 users in the dust.

At same time this improves a lot of capability for VR due to significant GPU bump.

 

[MrCunningham]

The Matrix sold a lot of PS2s, so maybe they're just grateful.

Jacking into the Matrix with a PS2 was a pretty common thing back in the day.

 

[MMaRsu]

Enough to start an internal console war just inside the PS4 user base. This is huge. (in the worst kind of way, imo)

Yeah this is some ridiculous bullshit if you ask me. Not just for me as a launch product buyer, but for my friend who just bought one a month or two ago.

 

[badb0y]

100% and 30% doesn't sound impressive for a .5 upgrade.
If a normal gen bump 800%-1000%, half gen should get 300%-400%.

Those type of increases are no longer possible. Half a decade of intel CPUs has brought us what? 30-40% IPC increase? GPUs increase used to be 80-100% every generation, now it's a fucking miracle if we get 50% increase in performance.

 

[GRaider81]

I only use my ps4 for MLB the show so I'll wait and see how much better 2017 looks but I really do think this is a unnecessary and very risky move for Sony.

 

[OnionPowder]

to which Nvidia card does the NEO compare?

I would think in between a 960 and a 970 if that was legit

Spoiler

I'm probably super wrong

 

[Auto_aim1]

A controller upgrade would be really nice. Nothing too substantial just build it with good materials along with a great battery life. I'm on my 6th DS4 now and I'd really like a robust controller that lasts for 3 - 4 years at least.

 

[RickyRozay]

Bloodbourne is probably a yes. Witcher 3 is almost certainly a no unless they further reduce the NPC count.

Hopefully Bloodbourne gets the treatment. I'll get rid of the blow dryer asap.

 

[mitchlol]

I think we are all missing the biggest point. This thing will probably launch around the same time as the Nintendo NX. Between PSVR and PS-NEO I don't think Nintendo are going to make any meaningful splash, maybe this was a ploy on Sonys part all along to put the final nail into Nintendo for dogging them all those years ago.

/conspiracy