There's a distinct lack of reading that happens in these threads.
Giant Bomb: PS4.5 / PS4K is codenamed NEO, more info
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There's a distinct lack of reading that happens in these threads.
Jesus, just pretend the Neo is a PS4 slim, case solved.
Neff
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Because they are no longer getting the same experience, despite purchasing the same game. Player experiences will be divided, and there's a risk from already existing PS4 owners that faith in the longevity of Sony products will falter.
No because it sounds childish. I guess he won't be buying any TV's, phones, head phones, video games, etc from Sony ever again because they are gonna release an improved game console that won't have any effect on his current console, boohoo.
Does sound interesting. I'm honestly doubting that it's more powerful than a 970, although somewhere around an overclocked 960 sounds right. I love that they aren't allowing any Neo-exclusive games, good call by Sony there.
If it comes out and again devs only put in some nicer shaders and more high-resolution textures I won't be getting it until my current PS4 hits the bucket. Without a 4K TV those upgrades aren't as big to me. I'd much rather buy a Pascal GPU or an NX instead.
Although with this Nintendo's position with the NX is very much screwed in my eyes. Unless it's something BIG that will grab everyone's attention they will never be able to compete with Sony's marketing machine.
If it comes out and again devs only put in some nicer shaders and more high-resolution textures I won't be getting it until my current PS4 hits the bucket. Without a 4K TV those upgrades aren't as big to me. I'd much rather buy a Pascal GPU or an NX instead.
Although with this Nintendo's position with the NX is very much screwed in my eyes. Unless it's something BIG that will grab everyone's attention they will never be able to compete with Sony's marketing machine.
Now we understand Matt losing his hair over the sheer stupidity in this thread.
thekiddfran
Member
But why though?
The PS4 is outselling nintendo and xbox by millions.
There is no need for this console. 40 million people are happy with their PS4
Nvidia and AMD release new cards on yearly basis, none of their products falter or people losing faith on the brands, on the contrary zealots on each band grew every year.
Well, for someone who likes a full console cycle, they are the only ones actually releasing real new hardware. I already own an Xbox One and PS4 and want games, not upgraded versions of the same systems I just bought not too long ago. Nintendo is the only one I am looking at on the hardware front.
Presumably because 1) VR and 2) they realise the console market needs to change and this is them getting their "feet wet".
Neff
Member
This is true, but the PC market is a very, very different thing for many reasons.
It isn't a new console...
It isn't any different than a PS2 slim. The PS2 was selling great before the slim and they made a new model anyway.
Every game will be on both. Why are people so pissed. There's literally no negative here.
But if Sony did absolutely nothing your opinion would be the same. So the only other alternative is...PS5? In 2016...?
wild wild rice
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I don't think anyone is saying that in a broad sense, just personal opinion and anecdotes.
so they can make more money more often
1. Yes, I didn't want it, because it did not exist. But I knew that I would buy a slim PS4. This is the same, but with upgraded specs. It's coming and I want it. More options? OPTIONS ARE AWESOME. I can buy one and you don't have to. See how cool that is?
2. Not two years. It's ~3 years in October/November 2016. Mid-gen upgrade.
3. I am an early adopter and I'm not pissed.
4. Not confusing at all. Cheaper model = standard performance. Expensive model = better performance.
5. You spent $399. So you had a new console for ~3 years. Nice. Three years later, I pay $399 and get a console with better specs. Good. Should I pay $399, three years later than you and get the same console with the same specs? No. I can get a console with better specs, or your console version, but cheaper. Options! It's nice.
In every gen, people know that a slim model will follow mid-gen. People are still buying the OG console.
Only difference now: The mid-gen model has better specs.
Games will run on both. Everything is fine.
AndrewDean84xX
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All Nintendo needs to say at E3 is that the NX will be more powerful than a PS4 and wont have a console revision in three years, and I'm there. Fuck this Neo bullshit. Consoles aren't phones and don't need incremental hardware upgrades, unless moving to the next generation.
Ghost Slayer
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Companies don't sleep on their success. They need to risk to see if they can expand their market, sometimes it fails, sometimes it works.
Plague Doctor
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I said this when the rumors were first surfacing. If you want to move the generation farther along and have a more powerful version of the base console, I am cool with this if there is a trade in program of sorts.
They have a trade in program for early adopters, keep the same user base between the two versions, and offer the original (the current one) model at a far lower price moving on forward after the upgraded one comes out, it's not a bad idea.
No trade in program or price incentive to switch to this upgraded version, and this is all crap for people who bought into this generation early.
They have a trade in program for early adopters, keep the same user base between the two versions, and offer the original (the current one) model at a far lower price moving on forward after the upgraded one comes out, it's not a bad idea.
No trade in program or price incentive to switch to this upgraded version, and this is all crap for people who bought into this generation early.
Because it's more powerful. Now OG PS4 owner won't be at the top of the console food chain.
Ignorant question that will get me ripped apart by the developers and experts in console making here.
Say, if I'm playing BF5 on my PS4 at less than 60fps, while the PS4K version will be faster and better performing (60FPS and stuff), wouldn't the players on the new console get a big advantage on the OG PS4 ones?
Say, if I'm playing BF5 on my PS4 at less than 60fps, while the PS4K version will be faster and better performing (60FPS and stuff), wouldn't the players on the new console get a big advantage on the OG PS4 ones?
That's how I feel. My PS4 is a noisy beast and I want to replace it and I will with this new model.
Because it's more powerful. Now OG PS4 owner won't be at the top of the console food chain.
But they wouldn't be anyway if the NX comes out more powerful or MS follows suit.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
LOL! So true. I don't mind it as it's one of my favorite trilogies of all time.
Mister Megative
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You literally know less than nothing about the console market, or the wider consumer market for that matter. But 10/10 shitposting.
Lionel Richie
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Agreed, plus the upgrade in the specs is underwhelming at best. This one is a dud IMO.
Not a massive advantage. A skilled Battlefield player could still beat a newer player playing at 30fps with the newer player playing at 144. However, there will be a definite advantage for sure, especially if the games are as framerate-drop filled as Battlefield 4 was.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You do realize Jaguar is the CPU, the GPU is Polaris (we are not getting the Zen CPU) on this APU.
http://www.techpowerup.com/221811/playstation-4k-to-feature-a-2-304-sp-amd-polaris-gpu
Bolded is very interesting.
Complicated
Banned
They're tired of resetting everything to zero every time they launch a new console. This will bring stability to the market for them, publishers, developers, and consumers.
Install bases will essentially never shrink again as long as they don't lose out to another console manufacturer. Developers and publishers will have all those people to sell to, so they can make more long term bets and find new audiences. Consumers will benefit from healthy mature markets that every developer will want to bring their games into.
Freeman
Banned
If you skiped the Wiiu sure, else Nintendo console cycles are usually the shortest.
Depends if devs force multiplayer parity or not. Also this is no different to playing MP on a PC.
Yep! You see, more options for you. It's nice!
You can buy:
A) A new OG PS4 for less money (less than the launch price day 1)
B) The mid-gen slim model (with a bit more power this time)
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This thread is this:
but full of people who want to do this:
Perfect, hahaha.
Same.
3 years is way too early. But 4 years? What a nice long and full console cycle.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
One thing is for sure. The PS5 won't have as successful of a launch as the PS4. Not if people know they can wait three years for a more powerful version.
thekiddfran
Member
Your comment literally added nothing to the thread,
We have a genius in here, please enlighten me. You must be an expert in consumer behaviour?
Teach me sire
Because it's more powerful. Now OG PS4 owner won't be at the top of the console food chain.
I would not be surprised if there was some backwards-ass fear in some people of both Sony and MS doing hardware upgrades and MS ending up with better specs.
Consoles are the dinosaurs of the electronics, every other device upgrade every year, even cars realease yearly revisions of their models.
Sectorseven
Member
I mean, think about the value proposition for a minute. Presumably $400 dollars for a slightly better experience.
$400 buys a lot of games.
$400 buys a lot of games.
It's a lame excuse, but it was pretty much why I never played competitive stuff on PC. Always thought that not having a 60fps/1080p (or the PC equivalent) computer would put me in a bad position against people with better specs.
Yeah, this was kinda my point. Again, it's more of a personal worry/opinion rather than condemning the existence of the PS4K; hell, I played Dragon Age Inquisition in the PS3. Think I can handle the shit version and just stick to non-mp games if the advantage is way too big.
John Wick
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Lol! This shit needs to stop. Based on what makes you think the Neo PS4 can't do 1080p @ 60fps? Star Wars battlefront manges it fine on PS4. With 33% CPU power increase and double GPU performance and devs with much better experience coding to the consoles why can't 1080p @ 60fps be possible on Neo???
Its getting ridiculous
Exactly if they are treating PlayStation's OS as a platform and the hardware isnt as married to it anymore this would drastically reduce development costs etc for the company. As a small shareholder I amd very happy with this if this is their ultimate goal.