reelbigtink
Member
I appreciate the positive responses you bring to these threads. It makes the doom and gloom crowd easier to tolerate.
Emily Rogers: Why you should be excited about NXs software output
- Thread starter Tom Nook Sawyer
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I appreciate the positive responses you bring to these threads. It makes the doom and gloom crowd easier to tolerate.
I really hope Verendus tease of FFVI pans out , how hype would it be for this to be at E3?
I would be hype for that!
Third-parties can't port games if they have to support a handheld, so only the one that support handhelds already would do it. There's no benefit to having a console whatsoever other than being able to ply the game on your TV if this route is taken. Either simply consolidate resources to make it easy to port engines and games between systems without a requirement to support both, or just make a handheld that can maybe connect to your TV. It's just a waste to make two devices that use 100% of the same software. Nintendo's main source of income is software revenue, so why waste money on redundant hardware?
With something like this people will read into however they want and roll with it until they are proven right or wrong. I'm curious to see what comes from this move.
There are a lot of people who haven't upgraded and there are potentially people who could potentially start buying their third party games on the NX if they prefer it so we probably just have to wait until we start hearing impressions from devs and potential customers.
Dark Cloud
Member
True
Those are equally Playstation/Xbox consumers, so the same goes for them. Why would 3rd parties want to lose money having them buy extra ports on a Ninteno systems, when they can have them migrate to the XBox/Playstation successors.
So weird to realize that there hasn't been an F-Zero game on the last FOUR platforms Nintendo's released.
people can't seriously believe this
a console with no GTA, no COD, no FIFA is dead in the water unless it becomes some crazy phenomenon that no one saw coming like the Wii.
If they can pull that off again, good on em. But I highly doubt it. having big third party games on your console is essential.
Dark Cloud
Member
The time is now. F-Zero, real Metroid, Mother 4, Star Tropics to make a comeback.
I wonder if Nintendo can get a 3D FFVI remake too @_@.
Actually, it's probably technically "easier" to release 40 pieces of garbage lol, than to get out games that are of better quality than pretty much all of the Wii U heavy hitters. In one year.
AcademicSaucer
Member
My hope is that if they don't have to make 2 Mario karts , 2 2d Marios, etc.
They will have time for their neglected IP and for new IP
They will have time for their neglected IP and for new IP
Who gives a shit about the first party for fuck sake. Nintendo always makes amazing games. It's the third party games that's important for the machine to do really really well. That or I've been right all along and Nintendo has decided to go "fuck you" to everyone and double down on themselves and key Japanese partners.
This news does NOT excite me one bit and in fact it does the opposite.
This news does NOT excite me one bit and in fact it does the opposite.
Josh Thomas kinda implied that he was told about Splatoon getting a TV show/movie/anime/whatever adaptation, which would push back Splatoon 2 to around 2019 to coincide with the adaptation (thus justifying a port of the first game). Not sure if he's on the money, but it's something to note.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Because Nintendo has going almost three whole generations without significant third-party support...can't imagine what would make them come rushing back now.
A "vast" increase in software output can only mean 3 things:
1. Nintendo is expanding like crazy
2. Nintendo is going to fund more "2nd party" games
3. A quantity over quality approach with lots of quickly-made, low-budget, stuff
The third option doesn't sound exciting at all, IMO.
1. Nintendo is expanding like crazy
2. Nintendo is going to fund more "2nd party" games
3. A quantity over quality approach with lots of quickly-made, low-budget, stuff
The third option doesn't sound exciting at all, IMO.
it depends on nintendo's release schedule. maybe in 2017 they can get a handheld that replaces 3ds, and is similar to a 2013 xb1, while the 2016 nx console has been on the market for a while.
the market for consoles is also strong in the us, stronger than the market for handhelds at least. it's true in europe too. why not go for different audiences if you have a large library. if the only thing holding you back is form factor, why not make that form factor available? nintendo already did this in some fashion with 2ds - it's like the 3ds, but with less features and a very low price of entry compared to almost every other dedicated handheld out there. it didn't light the market on fire, but it's been a consistent seller and introduced millions more to the 3ds userbase, which contributes to more software sold.
reelbigtink
Member
They can maintain a healthy base with mobile/phone sales and Japanese developers. They were in the black very recently even with tepid Wii U and 3DS sales.
There are plenty of folks who, like me, would rather play DQ 11 than Fallout. They just need to be mildly successful.
Dark Cloud
Member
Calm down dude. If she doesn't know the third party situation then she doesn't know. Hasn't it been speculated they're doing things to make it easier for third party?
That's what I'm confused about with the whole consolidated development thing.
Despite the drops in sales, having two mario karts and 2 marios have sold an effload this gen. Mario karts are well over 16m I think. 2d Mario the same.
Ok, so if there is only 1 Mario Kart next gen. Is it for the handheld and then ported to the console? Or is it made for the console? If so, can the handheld even run that version? Does the console one get bottlenecked so that a handheld port can easily be made?
Or would they continue to have 2 versions? If so, what does the unified development even mean?
OrbitalBeard
Member
Pretty much everyone but yourself.
What is Josh Thomas' track record on rumors?
By that logic 3rd parties should drop the Xbox One and get everyone on Playstation.
There's potential to introduce more people to their games depending on the userbase the NX attracts. You're assuming that people who are interested in the NX won't want to play third party games on the device just because it happened with the Wii U.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
As someone who will own all new consoles, this is good. Even if 3rd parties abandon them again, there'll still be great content. I'll have my Xbox and PlayStation for third party stuff anyway.
Soon THE TIME IS COMING
AcademicSaucer
Member
I'm actually curious as well. I only know him from his discussions with RogersBase & GameXplain as well as his salty tweets over Nintendo's recent actions with Smash 4 & the company as a whole.
GhostTrick
Banned
Considering how Wii U has been lacking on that department... It's kinda easy. Especially with a shared library. How much exclusives Wii U got whuch reviewed well ? 19 as of today in more than 3 years. And some of them were smaller scale titles.
It'd be easy to build a bigger and more exciting library in one year than Wii U's whole life span.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
GameCube was before the time of HD development when game development costs pretty much necessitated multiplatform releases to cast a wide enough profitability net (Just look at how many JP devs formerly loyal to the PS2 took their series to PS3 and 360). Also the small discs didn't help, nor did the userbase. Even then it got decent stuff, just not nearly as much as PS2.
Wii was so much weaker than 360 and PS3 that straight ports were pretty much impossible.
Wii U was a sales disaster, and presumably the Gamepad made it harder to just do straight ports -- since they'd have to tailor the game specifically for the console.
It comes down to having a successful system AND ease of porting. Ideally if NX has both of those then there's no real reason not to, is there?
Bit Block guy? Eh.
So you're upset that she didn't say anything about 3rd parties either way? I'm confused.
But ease of porting means shit if there's no audience to buy those games, which may be the main concern of western third parties right now.
Well, Japanese 3rd parties already don't bother with Xbox and just make games for Sony and Nintendo. Wii U, not so much, 3DS? A hell of a lot more Japanese games.
4yrs from the original title's release isn't out of the question, but it is a long time to wait. They would need a port in that case. I don't see them waiting that long to get another Splatoon out.
Oh wow. He sounds really unconfidently confident about that. Is he an insider?
Guess as of now I'm expecting a port, and sequel+movie/something in 2019.
I'd prefer Waluigi at the DMV tbh
Given the success of the first game, one would think that getting a Splatoon sequel ready for the NX Platform would be Nintendo's top priority. But if Josh actually has good intel & Nintendo wants to time Splatoon 2 with whatever TV/movie/anime adaptation for Splatoon that's supposedly on the way, then yeah, a port would be a bit more justified.
GhostTrick
Banned
Third parties doesnt matter. The userbase for most 3rd parties games are already established elsewhere. People wont quit their friend lists, live subscriptions, game library just to play 3rd parties on Nintendo's platform.
So yes, 1st parties will matter the most and this is why Wii U failed so hard. It's first party output has been the worst, if you except Virtual Boy. The laziest and blandest.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
I said ease of porting and if it's a success.
Also third-parties should know full well that having their games on as many platforms as possible is ideal, so they should at least try for the launch and judge from there. And if they don't work out at launch, what's the loss on their part when things like Fifa should be easy to crank out and encouraging to new buyers? If it's easy to port basically, then it's no real loss if they don't light up the charts.
First party was among the least of Wii U's problems. The fact that it did not have so many of the biggest third-party games throughout 2013 is a big part in what helped many write it off.
Releasing a console these days that doesn't have the most popular games (e.g. GTA V) just will not work if you want your console to be appealing. Like it or not, those are the games people are buying.
literally everybody did just this jumping from 360 to ps4
none of that shit means shit. people go to where the better experience is. if nintendo can provide that and market it effectively, people will make the jump.
big if.
Waluigi dating sim is much preferred.