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Uh... How? Why?
Did I miss something?
To quote what I said, earlier....Heard it all before, no 3rd party means the console is basically doomed to fail. Every Nintendo has great 1st party support so it just goes without saying. Get your shit together Nintendo, you need to compete on all fronts especially with the competition being so stiff and please give your consumers an account system where their games are tied to an account for goodness sake!
Regaining lost third party support is basically a "chicken or the egg" situation. Third parties may not come back because Nintendo lacks the necessary audience needed for their games to succeed. Likewise, Nintendo's losing marketshare because they can't get those third parties on board. One of the two parties has to make a power-play to break the cycle & start the road to recovery, and Nintendo may have to be the one to man up & do so.
More first-party software doesn't mean less third-party support. That's ridiculous. If anything, it's the opposite.
The Wii U suffered from an 8-month long drought after release. There was almost nothing from Nintendo themselves between launch and Pikmin 3. This stalled the growth of the install base. Nintendo's job is to make the system attractive to consumers and move hardware from day one. If they can do that, third-parties will have more incentive to support them.
They should go all guns blazing when it comes to their own games. If they combine their two hardware lines, they might even be able to stay profitable without external support. However, if they do manage to get it, they have a real winner in their hands. I mostly expect to see Japanese support in the beginning, but if it really takes off then others will come too.
Reads like Nintendo will just launch games without as much content. And it sucks. Big games ask for long development cycles, you won't have a good Metroid Prime in one year.
Unless Nintendo has reorganized their entire company...
Two things :
1. It would be incredibly advantageous to Nintendo to openly come out and state they support cross-play with other systems and launch the NX with a game like rocket league. Why? Because a big reason a ton of people do not buy 3rd party games on Nintendo platforms is because they cannot play with the rest of the fan-base (COD on wii etc). Having everyone know you can now buy and play lets say SFV or GTA6 and play with everyone else would greatly increase the chance of 3rd party consumers and developers supporting Nintendo again.
2. About the increased software output. I dont think they will scale down games and make them smaller, rather they are streamlining their development process via:
- Combining handheld and console dev studios
- Developing a single, connected platform/os for the NX and future systems for easy porting
- Partnering with many other developers to co-dev games (like they have been starting to with the Wii U)
- Possibly releasing NX and future games digital only (This is just me guessing based on My Nintendo only having rewards for digital e-shop purchases)
Reads like Nintendo will just launch games without as much content. And it sucks. Big games ask for long development cycles, you won't have a good Metroid Prime in one year.
That's also part of the issue I've mentioned about the audience Nintendo attracts now. They mainly care for Nintendo games only &, for the most part, don't give a flying fuck about third party efforts. And those who do care about third party games already have systems that satisfy those needs.But when there is no dorught of Nintendo games, 3rd parties complain they cannot compete with Nintendo's games and the attention they get, so they won't support it either.
We been there before, it even was a reason for Nintendo to leave gaps in the 3ds launch period, to give space for them, but they did nothing and Nintendo got burned.
She took a break for a while, & got a new Twitter account & a new avatar.Is this the same Emily Rogers as the one that leaked Paper Mario? Her avatar seems to have changed...
Not buying it. Before I sold my WiiU last month, I played less than a dozen games in my entire time owning it. Unless Nintendo has reorganized their entire company and discovered a secret to game production, it won't be enough to make the NX worthwhile for me.
Yeah, that worked out real well for the gamecube.
Don't forget a bunch of Rare games moving from Xbox to Xbox 360. Some of them, like Perfect Dark Zero, even started their life on GameCube.
And speaking of Rare and GameCube, Star Fox Adventures was supposed to be Dinosaur Planet for N64. Kirby Air Ride was being made for N64 and was even one of the first titles announced for that system.
Third parties aren't coming back to Nintendo hardware, so here's hoping they've got a hell of a software lineup for the first few years of the console.
Heard it all before, no 3rd party means the console is basically doomed to fail. Every Nintendo has great 1st party support so it just goes without saying. Get your shit together Nintendo, you need to compete on all fronts especially with the competition being so stiff and please give your consumers an account system where their games are tied to an account for goodness sake!
Heard it all before, no 3rd party means the console is basically doomed to fail. Every Nintendo has great 1st party support so it just goes without saying. Get your shit together Nintendo, you need to compete on all fronts especially with the competition being so stiff and please give your consumers an account system where their games are tied to an account for goodness sake!
Same here. I believe his ban is over in June, so he should be back.
It does sound like they stop Wii U development earlier than we thoughReads like Nintendo will just launch games without as much content. And it sucks. Big games ask for long development cycles, you won't have a good Metroid Prime in one year.
What the hell am I reading. I'm super excited for the NX, but this statement right here invalidates everything this source is claiming. Saying the 3rd party selection left a lot to be desired I understand, but Nitnendo's 1st party output on the WiiU is undeniable quality.
Also, putting out a large number of titles quickly isn't something to be pumped up for, especially when this person talks about how they supposedly changed their whole approach and process. I hope focus on quality and polish hasn't been thrown to the back-burner.
Not buying it. Before I sold my WiiU last month, I played less than a dozen games in my entire time owning it. Unless Nintendo has reorganized their entire company and discovered a secret to game production, it won't be enough to make the NX worthwhile for me.
Actually, most of the rumors are still left unchallenged. He was just banned for using ZhugeEX's info without permission. That's really it. Ban is only temporary too.
You might want to use a better example, because Sony funding SFV pretty much made sure that it won't leave PS4 or PC.Two things :
1. It would be incredibly advantageous to Nintendo to openly come out and state they support cross-play with other systems and launch the NX with a game like rocket league. Why? Because a big reason a ton of people do not buy 3rd party games on Nintendo platforms is because they cannot play with the rest of the fan-base (COD on wii etc). Having everyone know you can now buy and play lets say SFV or GTA6 and play with everyone else would greatly increase the chance of 3rd party consumers and developers supporting Nintendo again.
2. About the increased software output. I dont think they will scale down games and make them smaller, rather they are streamlining their development process via:
- Combining handheld and console dev studios
- Developing a single, connected platform/os for the NX and future systems for easy porting
- Partnering with many other developers to co-dev games (like they have been starting to with the Wii U)
- Possibly releasing NX and future games digital only (This is just me guessing based on My Nintendo only having rewards for digital e-shop purchases)
What the hell am I reading. I'm super excited for the NX, but this statement right here invalidates everything this source is claiming. Saying the 3rd party selection left a lot to be desired I understand, but Nitnendo's 1st party output on the WiiU is undeniable quality.
They've already combined their divisions in the recent restructuring. EAD now no longer exists and it's now called EPD.
You might want to use a better example, because Sony funding SFV pretty much made sure that it won't leave PS4 or PC.
We don't know how much time they have put through to their possible launch titles. For all we know, a lot of these games have been worked on a year before Iwata mentioned the first time about NX. We just got to see when they reveal them possibly at this year's E3.
Well, they were extensively reorganizing it since Iwata's death, from internal studios to top management.
And Kirby GCN, I forgot about it! Plus Mother 3 bizarrely going from N64 to GBA.
Always wondered; how do people find out how long someone's banned for? Particularly in this case since he deleted his twitter?
I wonder if DQXI will make Y1.
They DO need third party games for library diversity there are genres that Nintendo alone can't fill.
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Square Enix pretty much blurted that the new Dragon Quest game was coming to NX then they had to backtrack because they shouldn't have said it....
Wii U has arguably the best library right now and it's deader than dead.
Always wondered; how do people find out how long someone's banned for? Particularly in this case since he deleted his twitter?
I thought that he took down his Twitter account?His Twitter is still up.
Yes i know but i do not think Nintendo has really taken advantage of that yet since they do not have a connected/singular platform for their handheld and console yet. I imagine once the NX and NX Handheld are out it will be a different story.
Wii U has arguably the best library right now and it's deader than dead.
I thought that he took down his Twitter account?
It has a great library if we distance ourselves from massive software droughts, and it seems that Nintendo wants to fix the latter.
Wii u paper Mario will be released on NX day one
Boom
I'd like it to see, but... eh. Wii U deserves its swan song that isn't a cross-platform Zelda.
I disagree. It had no real 3D Mario, just a sequel to 3D Land, and everything else just felt safe and boring. I was never compelled to buy it even though I'm a big Nintendo fan.Wii U has arguably the best library right now and it's deader than dead.
I'd like it to see, but... eh. Wii U deserves its swan song that isn't a cross-platform Zelda.