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[Dark Cloud]

I wouldn't count on Metroid being dead as it's such an interesting IP but I don't think Nintendo cares to make a new F-Zero.

Metroid definitely isn't dead. No matter what anybody think Federation Force is coming and it's a Metroid game, just not a main title.

Plus Emily has said multiple Wii U games are being moved to NX. Retro could be working on one for Wii U, but it got moved to NX.

 

[SweetDonuts]

I'd love to know what Wii U games were transferred to the NX, besides Zelda.

 

[Zebei]

I'd love to know what Wii U games were transferred to the NX, besides Zelda.

Probably whatever the hell Retro was working on at minimum

 

[Mediking]

I'd love to know what Wii U games were transferred to the NX, besides Zelda.

Most likely Retro Studios' supposed Wii U game has been moved to NX.

 

[BluePikmin11]

What I'm hoping for the NX based on Emily Roger's leak:
1. Mother 3
2. Pikmin 4
3. Xenoblade Chronicles X2
4. New Kid Icarus?
5. For the Frog the Bell Tolls revival.

 

[MK_768]

I'd love to know what Wii U games were transferred to the NX, besides Zelda.

Zelda wasn't quite moved to NX. Probably just getting a port to it.

Pikmin 4 is moving to NX most likely.

 

[Zebei]

What I'm hoping for the NX based on Emily Roger's leak:
1. Mother 3
2. Pikmin 4
3. Xenoblade Chronicles X2
4. New Kid Icarus?
5. For the Frog the Bell Tolls revival.

I think this is the first time i've seen you since you left SB. How you been man?

What I'm hoping for the NX based on Emily Roger's leak:
1. Mother 3
2. Pikmin 4
3. Xenoblade Chronicles X2
4. New Kid Icarus?

Pikmin 4 is a given, but i'm hoping for the other 3 as well. Getting a sequel to my favorite game of all time that I have pretty much given up on on console would blow my mind

 

[Trevelyan]

I'd love to know what Wii U games were transferred to the NX, besides Zelda.

I'd wager Luigis Mansion 2 and DKR2.

 

[diaspora]

I wouldn't count on Metroid being dead as it's such an interesting IP but I don't think Nintendo cares to make a new F-Zero.

Metroid adventure games*

 

[Neiteio]

From WiiU to NX:

- Zelda
- Pikmin 4
- Retro's title
- Diddy Kong Racing 2 (it's real!)
- Luigi's Mansion 3 (it's real!)
- Animal Crossing WiiU (it's real!)

Yep

 

[Dark Cloud]

I think we can all agree Pikmin 4 and Retros games were to be Wii U titles, but moved to NX.

 

[Trevelyan]

From WiiU to NX:

- Zelda
- Pikmin 4
- Retro's title
- Diddy Kong Racing 2 (it's real!)
- Luigi's Mansion 3 (it's real!)
- Animal Crossing WiiU (it's real!)

Yep

The thing is, all of those are very plausible, and I'd say it's pretty accurate. So yeah, agreed 100% on this, and I say we see all those within the NXs first year, with the exception of AC, I can see that being 2018.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

Animal Crossing Wii U definitely seems like it was in development at some point. The plaza app was the most damning thing about it.

Amiibo Festival felt like an attempt to salvage and do something with those assets. So Neiteio's list looks pretty reasonable to me, Diddy Kong aside.

 

[Angry Chair]

From WiiU to NX:

- Zelda
- Pikmin 4
- Retro's title
- Diddy Kong Racing 2 (it's real!)
- Luigi's Mansion 3 (it's real!)
- Animal Crossing WiiU (it's real!)

Yep

These are good guesses but you forgot the gritty StarTropics reboot.

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

From WiiU to NX:

- Zelda
- Pikmin 4
- Retro's title
- Diddy Kong Racing 2 (it's real!)
- Luigi's Mansion 3 (it's real!)
- Animal Crossing WiiU (it's real!)

Yep

Maybe, but I don't think it's fair to say it that way. Obviously most first-year titles on a system probably started development on previous or other hardware. DKR2 ain't real son. I'm not sure LM 3 is either.

 

[MoonFrog]

If a 'true,' glorious Metroid is announced I will be ecstatic. I'm mostly okay with slow Nintendo; wouldn't mind more Nintendo at current quality but mostly I just want what's missing currently.

If Zelda/Metroid had a main game every 3-4 years each....that'd be awesome.

 

[Trevelyan]

Maybe, but I don't think it's fair to say it that way. Obviously most first-year titles on a system probably started development on previous or other hardware. DKR2 ain't real son. I'm not sure LM 3 is either.

You don't think Monster has been working on DKR2? I'd find it hard to believe that in the last 5 years, they've only worked on 2 ports to the 3DS.

 

[KingBroly]

Maybe, but I don't think it's fair to say it that way. Obviously most first-year titles on a system probably started development on previous or other hardware. DKR2 ain't real son. I'm not sure LM 3 is either.

Considering LM2 sold...4 million copies, I have to imagine another one's coming.

Let's review
- Smash port
- Zelda port
- Splatoon port
- Mario Maker port
- LM3
- Actual Animal Crossing
- Pikmin 4
- Retro's game

That's 8 games from them in the first year. 4 or 5, technically, but whatever.

I'd also wager on Monster working on an eShop racing game and yet another Mario vs. Donkey Kong game :| (seriously, tell them to stop making them already).

 

[Kremzeek]

I'll totally buy an NX just to play a new Metroid & Animal Crossing.

 

[Plinko]

Maybe, but I don't think it's fair to say it that way. Obviously most first-year titles on a system probably started development on previous or other hardware. DKR2 ain't real son. I'm not sure LM 3 is either.

But you didn't deny Animal Crossing, eh? Eh?

I hear you. *wink*

Considering LM2 sold...4 million copies, I have to imagine another one's coming.

Let's review
- Smash port
- Zelda port
- Splatoon port
- Mario Maker port
- LM3
- Actual Animal Crossing
- Pikmin 4
- Retro's game

I want the title to be "Actual Animal Crossing."

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

You don't think Monster has been working on DKR2? I'd find it hard to believe that in the last 5 years, they've only worked on 2 ports to the 3DS.

I believe the idea that Diddy Kong Racing 2 could have been prototyped to Tanabe and Nintendo execs, but instead ExciteBots was decided on. Then that was it, end of project. But theoretically, if Diddy Kong Racing 2 was being proposed for the NX, how on Earth would Monster Games develop it? They are such a small studio that porting games is the only thing that really makes sense for them at this juncture. Those 2 ports were perfect for the 18-20 people working there.

 

[Oddduck]

You don't think Monster has been working on DKR2? I'd find it hard to believe that in the last 5 years, they've only worked on 2 ports to the 3DS.

I mean Rogers said Monster Games wasn't working on DKR2 in 2013.

https://mynintendonews.com/2013/02/05/monster-games-apparently-arent-making-diddy-kong-racing-wii-u/

And now we're in 2016...

 

[James Scott]

But you didn't deny Animal Crossing, eh? Eh?

I hear you. *wink*



I want the title to be "Actual Animal Crossing."

Why would they make that HD miiverse thing if not them repurposing assets of an HD game?
Seems fairly likely that one was being worked on and was scrapped with its remains going to Amiibo festival or something

 

[maxcriden]

I'd love to know what Wii U games were transferred to the NX, besides Zelda.

Surely Pikmin, unless it was never Wii U-bound to begin with.

 

[?oe?oe]

and yet another Mario vs. Donkey Kong game :| (seriously, tell them to stop making them already).

You tell them! I want a new 1080 or Waverace or something similar from them!

Spoiler

Or bring back Project HAMMER :O

I believe Nintendo is wasting their own western studio...

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Metroid definitely isn't dead. No matter what anybody think Federation Force is coming and it's a Metroid game, just not a main title.

Seriously. It's not as if Triforce Heroes killed Zelda.

 

[Trevelyan]

I believe the idea that Diddy Kong Racing 2 could have been prototyped to Tanabe and Nintendo execs, but instead ExciteBots was decided on. Then that was it, end of project. But theoretically, if Diddy Kong Racing 2 was being proposed for the NX, how on Earth would Monster Games develop it? They are such a small studio that porting games is the only thing that really makes sense for them at this juncture. Those 2 ports were perfect for the 18-20 people working there.

Is it possible that when Miyamoto said Retro was big enough to multiple games, he meant this? They could be helping out at least with art and some basic design while Monster does the programming?

 

[maxcriden]

What I'm hoping for the NX based on Emily Roger's leak:
1. Mother 3
2. Pikmin 4
3. Xenoblade Chronicles X2
4. New Kid Icarus?
5. For the Frog the Bell Tolls revival.

How is that Frog Bell game?

 

[CharminUltra]

Back when I first heard the rumor about the NX being both a console and a handheld (thus merging Nintendo's home and mobile markets), I remember thinking "Man, imagine all of Nintendo's studios focusing their efforts on a single platform, it'd be GODLY.)

I haven't kept up with the rumors so I have no idea where we're at now, but I loved the feeling I got from that one.

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

Is it possible that when Miyamoto said Retro was big enough to multiple games, he meant this? They could be helping out at least with art and some basic design while Monster does the programming?

That is a possibility. But I'm secretly hoping Retro Studios is working on F-Zero. Whatever it is, a Nintendo IP racer makes great sense and tradition for launch.

 

[Plinko]

Why would they make that HD miiverse thing if not them repurposing assets of an HD game?
Seems fairly likely that one was being worked on and was scrapped with its remains going to Amiibo festival or something

I know, I was just joking. My guess is it was planned but when Wii U tanked they just transferred it to an NX launch title.

That is a possibility. But I'm secretly hoping Retro Studios is working on F-Zero. Whatever it is, a Nintendo IP racer makes great sense and tradition for launch.my hope anyway.

I think that would be an excellent idea.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Back when I first heard the rumor about the NX being both a console and a handheld (thus merging Nintendo's home and mobile markets), I remember thinking "Man, imagine all of Nintendo's studios focusing their efforts on a single platform, it'd be GODLY.)

I haven't kept up with the rumors so I have no idea where we're at now, but I loved the feeling I got from that one.

Me too.

My best current guess is all the portable games will end up playable on the NX console, but not vice versa. Fine by me if that pans out as I'm done with portables after this generation as I just don't really have a use for them anymore.

 

[KingBroly]

That is a possibility. But I'm secretly hoping Retro Studios is working on F-Zero. Whatever it is, a Nintendo IP racer makes great sense and tradition for launch.

I'd rather Monster Games do it because they're a small team and they could make a service-type game, like Killer Instinct, but for racing games.

 

[ika]

I got some questions/thoughts reading this thread:

-Why are so many people misspelling Emily's surname? Rodgers? Is something cultural? Inside joke?

-Why are some people asking for a Diddy Kong Racing 2? We already have a pretty good cartoony kart racer (with non-Mario characters even, looking like it might become some kind of Smash Bros Racing in the future). Wouldn't people rather want more variety like, I don't know, F-Zero, Wave Race, Excite xxx, 1080º, Stunt Race FX, Cruisn' xxx, even a new IP... that another clone of Mario Kart? It seems like a waste of development time and resources to me for the sake of nostalgia.

-People acting like first/second party Wii U games are bad now just because the console failed. Don't understand. Opinions and all, but really?

-Why are people that believes this new strategy is something new Nintendo created a few months ago after Iwata died and they need two years or a whole generation to see the results, when in reality this reorganization was set up by Iwata himself since 2009 at least? Don't forget when they announced the construction of the new HQ at Kyoto. That was the first step. And as some posters said, all internal teams are in NX mode since at least two years ago, and plans for software-hardware and portable-console development unification were set since 2011-12.

I'll edit if I got more...

 

[Neiteio]

I believe the idea that Diddy Kong Racing 2 could have been prototyped to Tanabe and Nintendo execs, but instead ExciteBots was decided on. Then that was it, end of project. But theoretically, if Diddy Kong Racing 2 was being proposed for the NX, how on Earth would Monster Games develop it? They are such a small studio that porting games is the only thing that really makes sense for them at this juncture. Those 2 ports were perfect for the 18-20 people working there.

The original rumor for DKR2 (detailed at length on a website I don't remember) was that Retro Studios is assisting Monster. It also said the game would star a variety of lesser-known Nintendo characters in hopes of elevating their profile, i.e. Mallow, Dillon, etc.

It's a fun idea. Sounds within the realm of possibility. Based on the premise, I suggested the name "Diddy Kong Racing: Second Banana."

 

[ArtHands]

Some indies can be salty. I wouldn't take the words of indies to mean that much if I'm being honest. When 3rd party developers say that...different story ya know.

Also, Nintendo is being silent because what is there to say right now? They have a plan on what to do and when they do...I"m sure they'll have plenty to communicate haha.

I am not expecting anything from 3rd party developers at all. Nintendo most likely isnt going to approach them, and even if Nintendo did, they will most probably tell Nintendo to fuck off without giving Nintendo any chance.

 

[Neiteio]

Here's the link to the original Diddy Kong Racing 2 rumor

 

[Angry Chair]

Is it possible that when Miyamoto said Retro was big enough to multiple games, he meant this? They could be helping out at least with art and some basic design while Monster does the programming?

According to this guy something like that is what's happening:

Diddy Kong Racing 2 is a collaboration between Monster Games and Retro Studios with Kensuke Tanabe as the producer. Monster Games is also working on another side (small) project that isn’t related to Diddy Kong Racing 2. Retro Studios is working on a separate main project of their own as well.

I doubt we can take him seriously because of his second post though...

edit-- dammit, I got ninja'd

 

[SweetDonuts]

From WiiU to NX:

- Zelda
- Pikmin 4
- Retro's title
- Diddy Kong Racing 2 (it's real!)
- Luigi's Mansion 3 (it's real!)
- Animal Crossing WiiU (it's real!)

Yep

Oh right, Animal Crossing games on a console are totally a thing. It's been so long I gave up any thought of a new one existing.

 

[MK_768]

I am not expecting anything from 3rd party developers at all. Nintendo most likely isnt going to approach them, and even if Nintendo did, they will most probably tell Nintendo to fuck off without giving Nintendo any chance.

And here I was taking you seriously...

Oh right, Animal Crossing games on a console are totally a thing. It's been so long I gave up any thought of a new one existing.

Yeah. Doesn't help that City Folk wasn't that good.

 

[Zebei]

Here's the link to the original Diddy Kong Racing 2 rumor

I remember this one. I remember falling in love beacause I wanted another Diddy Kong racing AND I really wanted to play as Dillon in a kart racer

Spoiler

Because I couldn't in smash

 

[MikeyB]

If they made a console the size of the PS TV with games from the Gamecube back (as many third party as possible) and made it look like a mini SNES for about $200, I would be on board. Otherwise... meh. Cranking out new Zeldas quickly doesn't interest me.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I sure hope they have their release schedule for games figured out. You can't have droughts when going against 299 with a game bundled competitors.

Also of they have the power for it they need EVERY 3rd party multiplat on their system, no excuses. When Wii U was missing pretty much every 360+ps3 title it was just brutal.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Metroid adventure games*

That's what I meant.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

That is a possibility. But I'm secretly hoping Retro Studios is working on F-Zero. Whatever it is, a Nintendo IP racer makes great sense and tradition for launch.

That's a waste of their talents, how about Wave Race???

 

[Josh5890]

The thing is, all of those are very plausible, and I'd say it's pretty accurate. So yeah, agreed 100% on this, and I say we see all those within the NXs first year, with the exception of AC, I can see that being 2018.

I hope not with Animal Crossing. AC is that perfect game for an eary console title when the amount of games in on the smaller end. This gives me more time to sink into Animal Crossing and not feel like I should be playing other games. I think you might be right though.

 

[Neoxon]

I sure hope they have their release schedule for games figured out. You can't have droughts when going against 299 with a game bundled competitors.

Also of they have the power for it they need EVERY 3rd party multiplat on their system, no excuses. When Wii U was missing pretty much every 360+ps3 title it was just brutal.

You're pretty much setting yourself up for disappointment there. Don't expect the likes of Bethesda to sign on unless Nintendo proves that they can cultivate a core gaming audience.

 

[Naked Prime]

NCL needs to cover a broader spectrum of genres with their 1st party offerings imo. You can't expect 3rd parties to invest in your platform if you do nothing to cultivate an audience.

 

[Snakeyes]

I agree, which is why Nintendo is trying to reach new fans through Amiibo, theme parks, mobile, etc.

In other words, I don't think their plan for growing the home console audience is to do anything different from their normal MO of being reluctant to cater to third parties and relying on doing unique first-party games instead.

I think that their strategy for growing the home console market is going to be almost totally separate from their home console strategy itself, excepting elements of connectivity between, say, playing a mobile Nintendo game and using that data on the NX somehow or tie-ins between a theme park attraction and a game based on that attraction, etc.

And I think that, for them, catering to the dedicated Nintendo fans is profitable and, as far as competing for other "hardcore" gamers out there, is enough for them. I expect them to try to expand their audience with non-traditional gamers ala the WiiU by chasing more blue ocean tech advances and doing mobile, theme park, etc., stuff outside of their typical home console strategy.

The problem is that these licensing initiatives work best when the franchises they are based on are already making waves in their market by themselves. TV series, movies and toys can act as a catalyst for turning a highly successful series into a phenomenon, but they'll be much less effective at boosting a declining property.

I'm too young to have experienced the NES era, but it seems like Mario was already huge years before the Mario Bros. cartoon and merchandise became a thing. Pokemon had already sold over 10 million before the anime started airing in Japan. Minecraft had a massive community by the time toys based on the game started to hit the shelves.

I could be wrong, but just throwing more non-gaming Nintendo stuff out there won't do them much good if their core gaming business is losing relevance among the wider market. They need to rebuild mainstream consumer interest in their gaming products first, then build upon that foundation with licensing initiatives, not the other way around.

 

[Neoxon]

NCL needs to cover a broader spectrum of genres with their 1st party offerings imo. You can't expect 3rd parties to invest in your platform if you do nothing to cultivate an audience.

This. The ball is in Nintendo's court to prove to third parties that an audience for AAA western third party games exists on their platform.