Emily Rogers: Why you should be excited about NXs software output
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digoutyoursoul
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Believe it when I see it Emily
Dark Cloud
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It makes it even worse...
Reveal ? Or more something like:
We are planning to connect our nx console with mynintendo.
So you can manage your UI also on smartphones.
We will do a full reveal @e3, we have software available to show you what we can do with the NX We also have a good line-up. Release happens end 2016 in Japan first....
For me it's the same as no info
I mean like a reveal where they show the console itself. Controller yes, software no.
DownGrader
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I wonder what will they say in the second paragraph now - it's not like they can brag about current sales anymore...
Astral Dog
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cant wait for this miraculous new development strategy that will make Nintendo able to get out one impressive HD game monthly.on the first year.
If NX launches this fiscal year, they're going to have to tell investors what to expect.
The first party output surely can´t be worse than what their competition is (not) delivering, despite beeing considered experts in HD development. I´,m looking at the sparse 1st party schedule and still unclear launch period for games like Horizon, Hot Shot Golf, Last Guardian etc..
The other producers have 3rd party publishers on board though.
Meesh
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My calendar = marked.Rösti;201729207 said:Nintendo's FY 2015 Financial Results Briefing is tentatively scheduled for April 28, 2016 (JST), 09.00 or 10.00 AM JST. This corresponds to Pacific time:
The news conference should be on April 27 (JST) however. Usually at 10.00 AM JST. So just subtract a day from the above countdown for that.
I'm Reggie for whatever happens...
Edit: secretly overhyped beyond imagination lol
Don't do this. We might just have to wait until E3 to hear anything substantial about the NX...
Zevenberge
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We will have to wait until E3, you mean. The "best" thing we can hear this week is that NX will or will not be launching this financial year, with the usual gibberish why the NX will not fail like the Wii U and why it will be the leading console again.
Meesh
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I'm trying, believe me... And for the most part steering clear of NX threads... But the hope and hype is real, it's like Nintendos second wind and I'm hanging on every bit of info. I'm a sad panda
Possumowner
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Well I guess we may know our first official thing on Wednesday, or wait until E3...sheesh this is painful
It takes a few days for English slides then a few days more for Japanese q&a then a week or so for English Q&A, so don't be too hyped about Wednesday.
Possumowner
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Kissenkopf
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But some details will be available for us through some people who can speak japanese. For sure not everything but important things which are NX related.
Yup. All we have to know, we will know instantly.
LeeRoyBrown
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All that shit that never came out on that failed platform Wii U.
Oh it's gonna be so good on NX. So many games. Just like last time!
Oh it's gonna be so good on NX. So many games. Just like last time!
Time for the Cheeseman to shine again!
Boy Wander
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What?
Doesn´t change anything regarding the actual 1st party output comparison.
But who cares when there are plenty of other games? That guy you quoted was not comparing 1st party outputs at all, that's what you started.
shaowebb
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Dont worry. From all the reports I've heard from pleased developers about how ridiculously easy the NX is to develop for I don't think third parties are gonna ignore THEM.
A lot of people care especially gamers that have a PC as an option, especially since more and more publishers, including Japanese publishers also bet on PC. 1st party output in many cases still means exclusive games and therefore it is indeed a very interesting topic and comparison to make.
And you have heard this from people within the industry that you know. Not just by reading rumor tweets or gaf?
I think people buy platforms for the games they want to play, regardless of whether they are exclusive or not. The choice of platforms also depends on friendship circles as the choice of platform defines on whom you can play with.
If someone wants to play GTA5 and has to decide on a platform, he will not care about whether Nintendo has more 1st party exclusives than Sony or Microsoft.
People also have the choice to play multiplats on PC with its well known benefits and without having to face a deliberate paywall for any basic online-gaming feature, and if there´s also interest for a console for its exclusive games or a system that has the benefit of portability paired with decent controll inputs, so be it. So please don´t be surprised if people make comparisons to make a personal decision.
The popularity of consoles compared to PCs does not only stem from exclusives, but also from the ease of use (simple plug and play, no installation required, no minimum hardware requirements), and the direct connection to TVs. I very much doubt that most console gamers are really considering buying a gaming PC instead, even if PC games were better optimized.
The online gaming paywall has, for some reason, not been preventing users to play on consoles.
Nonetheless, I agree with you that it's correct that people will consider exclusives when making a decision on which console to buy. But even more they will consider which games in general are available. If I want the new Mario game, I would buy a Nintendo console. But when I want the new GTA, I would not go for it as it's not available. If this generation has shown anything, the pure volume of first party output does not matter much. Otherwise the Wii U would be the market leader.
Or, at least, it used to be that way.
There's still the chance of a reveal in May which, to be blunt, Nintendo would be extremely stupid not to do. We'll know for sure before Thursday.
The fact that Vulkan is almost definitely the basis for NX's graphics API makes the odds of it being difficult to develop for extremely slim imo, though there's a bit more to it. If it really is using that, we could see a really awesome situation where Vulkan support on PC is accelerated by NX, which in turn will cause more Vulkan PC games to be ported to NX. I'd also imagine that DICE would be in love with Nintendo for using it.
brainchild
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Might be the last of its kind in that regard. Don't know how Nintendo would get around required installs for games of PS4/XBO levels of size and complexity, minus the cartridges possibility that brings it's own share of issues. :/
It´s not a popularity contest to me, I really couldn´t care less about this aspect, a non shallow comparison is just a tool to make an informed decision, knowing what´s more popular without context really is pretty useless and shallow to me. It doesn´t help that software-wise, for games like GTA, CoD etc. among most other 3rd party games, there already is the option to get a non gimped version of the same games on PC. That the mainstream chooses the "cheaper" alternative instead is really besides the point.
Think I'm getting what you are talking about now, I believe we were both talking about different things. For YOU the 1st party lineup is most important as you can also play 3rd party games on PC, is that what you mean? I was merely pointing out that the importance of the 1st party lineup appears to be negligible to the general gamer with other factors having higher importance.
Guess we both didn't quite realise this, sorry.
There is no doubt that 3rd party software have advantages in getting mindshare, just to make a specific example. A multiplatform game with decent marketing budget, can get coverage in magazines that cover news for PC-only, PS-only, Xbox-only and gaming in general magazines, which can lead to widespread word of mouth. Games with huge marketing campaigns have the backing of big 3rd party publishers and on top of that extra marketing deals with 1st party publishers. The marketing campaigns for the top grossing games is incredibly huge compared to almost all 1st party games, they basically brute force their way into success.
But success alone can´t be the only aspect of a topic, especially in a thread that´s rather direct and game related imo, I really doubt that she only thought about the financial aspect.
"Emily Rogers: Why you should be excited about NXs software output"
This is all very nice and speculative. But he said he heard from pleased developers. That's what i'm interested in.
Yup, so we basically talking about different things
If it's only up to me, I'm only really interested in Nintendo systems as I rarely buy 3rd party games. The last big 3rd party title that I thoroughly enjoyed was Sleeping Dogs (not counting indie developers).
Plinko
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I think it is pretty obvious he was referring to reading on the Internet.
Dark Cloud
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IIRC Serkan Toto tweeted there would be no NX talk at the last investors meeting. I forgot if he tweeted that the same day or prior. If anything maybe he'll let us know if Kimishima says NX will have some type of substantial talk at the investors meeting or not.
Yeah, I know. Don't believe it until an anonymous dev says it, though. We heard the exact same line about Wii U over and over, but then the truth came out... And I say anonymous because we heard BS from devs about it being easy when talking about the games they were making for it.
If you mean like a AAA style game, Nintendo rarely makes those. They do put out many more than 12 usually very good or better games per year though, across HH and console, and if you look at the DS upscale thread, I'd say those HH games look good in HD to begin with. Regardless, I don't think Emily's rumor said anything about impressive HD games, at least not in the way it seems you're indicating, but if I'm misreading what you're saying, my apologies.
DownGrader
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She actually stated several times that Nintendo makes games of all scales and not everything has to be Xenoblade or Zelda.
There you go. ☺ that's exactly what I was getting it. I forgot she'd addressed it, thank you.
Kissenkopf
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No we didn't hear that very often back in the day when the Wii U was short before launching world wide. We heared that the CPU was a huge problem and weaker than the one of the 360 or PS3 so ports were hard to handle.
Only very few developers said tht the Wii U is easy to develop for so the IGN articke qasn't a big surprise back then.
But this time we don't know anything from anyone.
That's a good question. I know Nintendo has been lauded for their tiny file sizes for most games this gen, but I understand the power of their consoles is far lower than PS/X. But, were The last gen PS/X systems already at much higher file sizes for games than Wii U is? If so, that might indicate Nintendo will at least have smaller file sizes or required installs vs. the competition. And a second question, with carts isn't it possible there would be no required install at all?
I agree with you, but FWIW I do think the info from LCGeek as a proven insider with a great similar track record means we can at least ballmark the CPU. Thanks doesn't necessarily say anything about developing, though, I suppose
I dunno, I think Xenoblade Chronicles X is a good indication of Nintendo's thought process in optional installs instead to keep game performance quality high whilst cutting down on required hard drive memory space in the console. As someone who despises loading times I'd love cartridges to make a home format comeback and they would certainly cut down on installation requirements, but unless Nintendo can get them for as cheap as discs or swallow the extra cost I can't see it happening. :/
I'm not expecting huge NX info, just confirmation that is is coming out this year (or this fiscal year at least) and maybe an announcement of when they will talk more.
Anyone know if that type of info would be in the prepared presentation, or the investor briefing?
Well, this is what they said for Wii U in their Financial briefing 2012. Keep in mind that they already had shown Wii U at E3 the year before:
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/120427/02.html
In other words, don't expect much info on the 27th. At best I expect they will announce the name of the console and maybe a date for a presentation of some kind, that they will have before E3.