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Uncharted 4 - A Thief's |Reviews Thread| Nateness Awaits

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Besides being a ND game... Uncharted is a very different game , so it makes no sense to compare different games. I can say TLOU is better for me, without even playing U4, because that game suits my tastes more.

I expect better criteria from 'professional' reviewers really.

Jason didn't review UC4 for Kotaku. But he played it. It's fair to compare UC to TLOU IMO. And people are interested in his impressions.
 
UGN UC4 has an "uninspired third act" that feels "repetitive" and "after a while turns into a slog"

And the beginning hs been ssaid to be long and slow. I'm hoping this isn't an Uncharted 3 situation where the middle third is the only great part.

Though I guess it all depends on what that reviewer considers a repetitive slog. That can be code for "it's mostly shootouts and gameplay" which would make it the most interesting act for me. Cinematic immersion walking is not fun to me.
 
I wanted to buy this game today due to all the reviews that popped up. Honestly, next week it'll be old news, and I'll just wait until Best Buy drops it down to 40 dollars. When something is new and everyone is praising it I want it, and will some times just go out and get it. that's what happened with the last Tomb Raider. Never really planned on buying it, then the reviews came out and I went out and bought it, had I had a week to think about, I probably wouldn't have.


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Can you translate bottom line and pros and cons?
Bottom line (Final Verdict):
Drakes final adventure is one of the best PS4 games ever. It mobs the floor with the competition.

Pros/Cons:
+ Rich in variety
+ Gunplay/Shooting is a lot of fun
+ Climbing segments are great
+ Graphics are absolutely fantastic
+ Sound is great and the voice actors (englisch and german) did a fantastic job
+ Great atmosphere
+ Believable and likeable characters
+ Very well written story
+ Exciting storyline
+ Controlls are really accurate through the whole game
+ New gaming segments/ideas got very well implemented
+ The rope is awesome
+ Funny and suprising puzzles
- Story getting "too safe" near the end
- AI could be a bit better

(Can't translate the last Con properly....)
 
Besides being a ND game... Uncharted is a very different game , so it makes no sense to compare different games. I can say TLOU is better for me, without even playing U4, because that game suits my tastes more.

I expect better criteria from 'professional' reviewers really.

Last of Us first playtrough will be hard to top, literally the best gaming experience of my life.
 
And the beginning is long and slow. I'm hoping this isn't an Uncharted 3 situation where the middle third is the only great part.

Though I guess it all depends on what that reviewer considers a repetitive slog. That can be code for "it's mostly shootouts and gameplay" which would make it the most interesting act for me. Cinematic immersion walking is not fun to me.

Most GAFers said the last half is the best. Honestly these things will vary massively player to player, depending on a range of factors. Eg how many times you die in the final encounters, how much time you spend on puzzles, how much you're getting lost etc.
 
IGN UC4 has an "uninspired third act" that feels "repetitive" and "after a while turns into a slog".

...

"what lets it down however is in uninspired and overly long third act that slows down it's pace considerably with repetitive gameplay " and therefore falls short of NDs previous games.
 
I always despised the insanely prolonged shootouts with bullet sponge enemies in the previous games. It was always my single biggest complaint about the series.

If they've fixed that...hmm.

Uncharted doesn't have bullet sponge enemies and never has.

19/20 enemies can be dispatched with one, perhaps two bullets. There are three enemy types in the entire series who could be classed as bullet sponges, but they make up far less than 1/10 of all enemies in the games. And the games always give you a power weapon somewhere nearby to make short work of them.

You're not wrong about the prolonged shootouts in 1 and 3 though, some iffy pacing.

Head over to the early copy impressions thread. The consensus is that it has some god-tier shootfeel, hit reactions, AI and level design.

All-around best-in-class combat, apparently.
 
Most GAFers said the last half is the best. Honestly these things will vary massively player to player, depending on a range of factors. Eg how many times you die in the final encounters, how much time you spend on puzzles, how much you're getting lost etc.

100%. Uncharted is one of those games where people have different opinions about what the best aspect is. I'm just hoping for good pacing/balance. Now that the platforming is said to resemble actual platforming, maybe the non-set piece/action moments will be more appealing to me.
 
Besides being a ND game... Uncharted is a very different game , so it makes no sense to compare different games. I can say TLOU is better for me, without even playing U4, because that game suits my tastes more.

I expect better criteria from 'professional' reviewers really.

At what point can you compare any two games then? This is made by the same team and it's the same genre. It's perfectly fine to compare to some degree.
 
Uncharted doesn't have bullet sponge enemies and never has.

19/20 enemies can be dispatched with one, perhaps two bullets. There are three enemy types in the entire series who could be classed as bullet sponges, but they make up far less than 1/10 of all enemies in the games. And the games always give you a power weapon somewhere nearby to make short work of them.

You're not wrong about the prolonged shootouts in 1 and 3 though, some iffy pacing.

Head over to the early copy impressions thread. The consensus is that it has some god-tier shootfeel, hit reactions, AI and level design.

All-around best-in-class combat, apparently.

Interesting to hear Colin (Kinda Funny) say he has issues with the game mechanics, but he's not the only one I've heard say it either. He went as far to say it's not in the upper echelon of TPS.

It's a massive step up from previous games - at least it felt that way in the beta - but I'm not sure it's receiving universal acclaim for its gunplay.

Then again, UC's mechanics have always been a point of contention. If it feels right for you, who cares I suppose?
 
lol this thread is boring. only nd can make a game that scores 94 and i am meh.
its like when messi scores a crazy and people are like "meh" lol

Some people wanted another Quantum Break to see meltdowns but this topic is only dreams now.
 
IGN UC4 has an "uninspired third act" that feels "repetitive" and "after a while turns into a slog".

...

"what lets it down however is in uninspired and overly long third act that slows down it's pace considerably with repetitive gameplay " and therefore falls short of NDs previous games.

IGN is a repetitive and is a slog. Gave up on IGN a long time ago after seeing them turn into the national enquirer of game reviews.

What I mean is that they are willing to give a game a poor review or a misleading headline to get clicks.
 
Most GAFers said the last half is the best. Honestly these things will vary massively player to player, depending on a range of factors. Eg how many times you die in the final encounters, how much time you spend on puzzles, how much you're getting lost etc.
Going to depend on the player of course.
 
At what point can you compare any two games then? This is made by the same team and it's the same genre. It's perfectly fine to compare to some degree.

Same third person view, not necessarily the same genre. The gameplay design varies substantially on both games.

Have no issues with comparisons though.
 
At what point can you compare any two games then? This is made by the same team and it's the same genre. It's perfectly fine to compare to some degree.

Not really.

It never had the same ambition story wise.

It's like saying Indiana jones is worse than the thing.

They were both action movies...

Anyway, the story of TLOU was a big hook for people. U4 is a much better game from a gameplay and location standpoints. The story just isn't as compelling, but that's to be expected from a lighter Uncharted tone.
 
who was that gaffer that made that chart with

That person was me, but the chart actually didn't have 94 for UC4. :)

I made that in anticipation of UC4 review thread, to see if Bruce Straley can deliver a hat-trick of 3 universally acclaimed games.

After all, one is a fluke, twice a coincidence, thrice a trend.

Updated, and finally it can be said that Bruce Straley is unquestionably one of the best game directors in the business today.

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Am I a twat for being irritated by the Metro review mentioning
a "surprising" cameo by Crash Bandicoot
?

Not surprising anymore, dammit.
 
Justen ^ I'm not reading your post. Explain how much of a spoiler it is.

Interesting to hear Colin (Kinda Funny) say he has mechanical issues with the game, but he's not the only one I've heard say it either. He went as far to say it's not in the upper echelon of TPS.

It's a massive step up from previous games - at least it felt that way in the beta - but I'm not sure it's receiving universal acclaim for its gunplay.

Then again, UC's mechanics have always been a point of contention. If it feels right for you, who cares I suppose?

Interesting. Will be curious to see what the mechanical issues are. People in the early impressions thread have been singing its praises - even people who disliked the previous games and had low expectations for this one.

U4 is a much better game from a gameplay and location standpoints. The story just isn't as compelling, but that's to be expected from a lighter Uncharted tone.

Slaythe... Your posts really just don't make sense sometimes

Edit: Oh wait, you mean lighter against TLoU I think? Fair enough if so

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I like ROTR but the story and characters should not even be mentioned. Seriously.

Yup
 
Same third person view, not necessarily the same genre. The gameplay design varies substantially on both games.

Have no issues with comparisons though.

They are. They are third person action games, which is a genre.

Who cares that they're different? What's the point in comparing something that is totally the same?

It's made up bullshit semantics for people to say "you can't compare these two games!" You can compare any damned thing you want, especially if you're wanting to say "I don't like Team X's new game compared to their previous one"
 
Interesting to hear Colin (Kinda Funny) say he has issues with the game mechanics, but he's not the only one I've heard say it either. He went as far to say it's not in the upper echelon of TPS.

It's a massive step up from previous games - at least it felt that way in the beta - but I'm not sure it's receiving universal acclaim for its gunplay.

Then again, UC's mechanics have always been a point of contention. If it feels right for you, who cares I suppose?

It felt better than every tps I have played with the exception of mgs5 which it is on power with. It is one of the best playing tps I have ever played
 
Not really.

It never had the same ambition story wise.

It's like saying Indiana jones is worse than the thing.

They were both action movies...

Anyway, the story of TLOU was a big hook for people. U4 is a much better game from a gameplay and location standpoints. The story just isn't as compelling, but that's to be expected from a lighter Uncharted tone.

"It never had the same ambition story wise". Are you kidding me? Did you read interviews where they talked all about how they wanted to make the story better than ever? They had ambition for it.

I am not yet convinced the gameplay is all better than TLOU. I am at Chapter 12 and while it's the best uncharted gameplay mechanics overall (most refined in series), I enjoyed TLOU's campaign more so far at this point, with both story, pacing and gameplay.
 
Bottom line (Final Verdict):
Drakes final adventure is one of the best PS4 games ever. It mobs the floor with the competition.

Pros/Cons:
+ Rich in variety
+ Gunplay/Shooting is a lot of fun
+ Climbing segments are great
+ Graphics are absolutely fantastic
+ Sound is great and the voice actors (englisch and german) did a fantastic job
+ Great atmosphere
+ Believable and likeable characters
+ Very well written story
+ Exciting storyline
+ Controlls are really accurate through the whole game
+ New gaming segments/ideas got very well implemented
+ The rope is awesome
+ Funny and suprising puzzles
- Story getting "too safe" near the end
- AI could be a bit better

(Can't translate the last Con properly....)

Thanks sound awesome.
 
Jason Schreier

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/728191970145910784

1) not as good as TLOU
2) story "doesn't quite come together"

I hope that's not true. Uncharted 3 is a game with a story that doesn't come together (at all). Having just played it for the first time, I was hoping to come off of it and go straight into a strong and coherent narrative.

Which is may still be. I am fine hearing certain criticisms, but the story is the thing I care most about.
 
Doesn't matter what a game "deserves" or what you and everyone else think a game deserves. Only what the individual felt about the game

That is the point though. for a big site like IGN, review score shouldn't be based on one person opinion ( or any big site for that matter, I mean the whole point of this thread after all is to collect reviews on the game for us to judge / decide on purchasing the game or later etc.

if 2 or 3 people played the game at IGN and they all agreed on that score, then yeah its fair.

This goes both ways too. I don't believe a game should deserve a perfect score either. if gamespot gave the game a 10 now, few months later Naughty Dogs enhance the graphics even more ( just an example), what it will be scored then ? 10.5 out of 10 ?
 
Besides being a ND game... Uncharted is a very different game , so it makes no sense to compare different games. I can say TLOU is better for me, without even playing U4, because that game suits my tastes more.

I expect better criteria from 'professional' reviewers really.

No two games are so alike that they can be flawlessly compared. It's perfectly valid to say you personally preferred the studio's old output to the new one. THat's Jason's personal perspective. He doesn't have to conform to some scientific formula. Games are about art, emotion and speaking to people on a personal level.
 
Justen ^ I'm not reading your post. Explain how much of a spoiler it is.

It's an Easter egg. I'd be shocked if it has anything to do with the story at all. Something you probably find somewhere and say "wow, neat".

Now, instead of saying " wow, neat" I'm gong to say "OK, there's that thing I heard about." Would've been cool to discover it.
 
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