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[brau]

Did Best Buy run out of gold coins? I don't see it as the pre-order bonus on there anymore.

Isn't it included in the box with the CE?

Mine shows like this. i figured it was due to it being in the box like they showed in some of the unboxing.

 

[funkystudent]

Uncharted 2: 96 on Metacritic
TLOU: 95 on Metactiric
Uncharted 4: 94 on Metacritic



Druckmann and Straley need to pack it up. Dudes have clearly been all downhill since Uncharted 2!

 

[Mad Season]

5 more days bros.

Pewdipie?

 

[MUnited83]

It takes a special kind of freak to get riled up and tweet about said outrage.

He's in the business of reviewing games (does he review anything else?). He knows that the gaming community is a volatile place that can erupt over the slightest little thing. He should expect outrage, especially when he put the bait out there with his QB=U4 tweet. He knows what he's doing. Smells of attention seeker to me.

LMAO.

This thread ayyy

I dunno? How about reading the start of the review?

That to me doesn't read like someone interested in a deeper discussion about the problem of ludonarrative dissonance in Uncharted or in the gaming industry.

It reads like someone trying to go for the lowest hanging fruit of easy to rile up fanboys and just playing with them. Like he says, it's "fun" right?

Seems perfectly fine to me. If someone responds with rage at that perfectly valid observation then they have some deep deep issues.

 

[GoldPunch]

What? Only 4 points better than Haze?

Pre-order cancelled.

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/haze-review/1900-6191308/

 

[Loudninja]

Pewdipie?

Hmm?

 

[Yurikerr]

Yep, exactly. It's not the "killing dudes" bit that Jim saw as the issue, it's Nathan Drake being a likeable guy who simultaneously kills dudes.

I did agree somewhat, but after playing through them the games put me on the "disagree" side. Recognising a complaint is never the same as agreeing with it.

That's why this is a interesting topic. I don't agree with the opinion but i would love to hear from those who think this way. But every time we touch this topic we get the same type of posts....It's something that could be well discussed but it's dismissed because "video games bruh"

 

[cameron]

Just noticed Dan's review for Giant Bomb. No surprises there.

Jesus, this sort of thinking will be the end of my interest in games. I'm so glad we got a game without any shitty tacked on RPG elements and mechanics bloat.

I honestly can't see it as a criticism to the game when upgrades would totally ruin the flow of the combat.

Plus it's not like TR did anything interesting with any of these mechanics. It's pretty much as bland as a game can get and with worse shooting than the previous iteration.

Ditto. My initial concern with UC4 was that the devs may try to appeal to the masses with by the numbers game design; brain-dead press A for awesome combat encounters, XP spam, and a pointless RPG skill system.

 

[redflamingolingo]

...C'mon now.

Okay, sorry sorry sorry. I just despised his remark.

And QB was so unimpressive to me.

UC4 is great. But Jim has his own opinions. To each his / her own.

 

[anothertech]

Jim & IGN reviews seem so arbitrary.

Let's just throw some rando numbers so we can be different from the club, even though it's better than x, y, z game that we assigned higher numbers to..

lol.

 

[Plum]

Of course I understand why CoD and Gears don't get the criticism. What about a game like Quantum Break? I seem to remember killing a whole bunch of dudes in that game, but no one talks about that, why? Because it deals with time travel? That game takes itself seriously and honestly the bad guys in that game aren't even that bad just on a different side of the same coin. And Lara Croft in Tomb Raider kills bad guys in very brutal ways, I don't see Nate sticking a climbing axe through someones skull.

Well firstly, Tomb Raider got the exact same criticism. Secondly, I haven't played Quantum Break so I personally can't comment. What I've seen of it though is that it goes for a much darker, serious tone than Uncharted. Like you said, it takes itself seriously, and whilst UC definitely takes itself seriously there are comedic and light-hearted elements.

Personally I can look past Drake's killings because the character is so well done, and it's a bi-product of its TPS and Indiana Jones roots. Like I've said before, I don't agree with Jim's opinion, but he holds it because he personally cannot look over the fact that Drake kills so many people in the game/s.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

Amazon says they're gonna ship it on the 6th.. you better not be fucking lying to me Amazon!

 

[Hedrush]

LMAO.
This thread ayyy

What's funny? Lol

 

[ViciousDS]

Fucking moron. Quantum Break is a joke game. Couldn't finish it.

UC4 is in a different league altogether.

damn this comment and that tweet go sooooooo good together.


BTW QB was an amazing game. So I'm ready for UC4.

 

[msdstc]

Of course I understand why CoD and Gears don't get the criticism. What about a game like Quantum Break? I seem to remember killing a whole bunch of dudes in that game, but no one talks about that, why? Because it deals with time travel? That game takes itself seriously and honestly the bad guys in that game aren't even that bad just on a different side of the same coin. And Lara Croft in Tomb Raider kills bad guys in very brutal ways, I don't see Nate sticking a climbing axe through someones skull.

Let me preface by saying I hate the whole argument. Its a game its tone is like Indiana Jones. Who cares! You also take a ton of bullets and survive! You heal by not getting hit by bullets for a bit.

That being said the argument is that the goal is to get treasure, so he's murdering his competitors in order to get the treasure before them.

 

[generic_username]

Fucking moron. Quantum Break is a joke game. Couldn't finish it.

UC4 is in a different league altogether.

Is this a joke post? You insulted someone for thinking QB is as good as UC4? Da hell.

 

[illmatic22]

Jim & IGN reviews seem so arbitrary.

Let's just throw some rando numbers so we can be different from the club, even though it's better than x, y, z game that we assigned higher numbers to..

lol.

Or, you know, it's just their opinion?

 

[HawksWinStanley]

Isn't it included in the box with the CE?

Mine shows like this. i figured it was due to it being in the box like they showed in some of the unboxing.

Ah ok, maybe it's just for the CE.

 

[Rozart]

Do you remember the infamous UC3 Wall of Shame? There are still dopes who, to this day, think that everything in that post is genuine.

People have been fishing for meltdowns since before the reviews posted. It's pathetic.

Some of these bait posts here are so transparent though. At least with the UC3 review thread, it was one big mess of a thread. This thread though has been pretty chill and upbeat with only one or two 'meltdown' posts interpersed at random (well until jim's tweet got posted anway but even then it's honestly been pretty tame). And somehow the thread still 'delivers'. Uh huh.

I giess if you're desperate enough, you'll see what you want to see.

 

[MegaSackman]

There certainly is room to have a discussion about the narrative dissonance in the gameplay of a game like Uncharted and what the characters are saying/doing.

I'm open to that discussion, and I'd never wave it off with the idiotic "bu-bu-but it's a video game!" excuse. Many people have tackled the topic before in fact and I always think it's an interesting subject.

Conversely though, it seems pretty evident that Jim didn't want to tackle the topic in a meaningful or well-thought out manner. He wanted to stir the pot. As much as I love him and his reviews, it sometimes seems to be a habit of his.

To me you can discuss this every time you want, but you can't weight it into analisis unless you make a stand and want to change the world of how things should be done because seriously, you kill stuff in games all the time with or without reason and this happens in movies too, every action movie.

So yeah, there's a discussion to be had but this is not a topic that developers want to tell, they are telling another story with conventions already accepted. You can't rise your finger for one and not for the other.
I think this has little to do with Jims score, I didn't even read his review I just comment on the idea, the concept. I think Jim could have rate the game as a 10/10 and put this stuff as a con and for me it's still kinda silly or impossible to sustain.

 

[The Artisan]

It's hard for me to write some Arabic words literally in English

the word translates to awesome or amazing.
(

word, I was just trying to read it. I can sorta read Arabic but I don't always know what it means.

 

[ScaryShark]

Jim & IGN reviews seem so arbitrary.

Let's just throw some rando numbers so we can be different from the club, even though it's better than x, y, z game that we assigned higher numbers to..

lol.

If only there was some lengthy text that also accompanied those numbers too.

 

[pixellated_man]

This is the highest rated game of the generation so far right? I know it's the highest rated exclusive, beating out Super Mario 3d world, just curious if it's the highest rated game including multiplats.

 

[MUnited83]

What's funny? Lol

People surely can't have a different opinion than you and call out people being shitheads because they are raging over a goddamn video game score, no, they have to be a "freak" wanting "attention".

Jim & IGN reviews seem so arbitrary.

Let's just throw some rando numbers so we can be different from the club, even though it's better than x, y, z game that we assigned higher numbers to..

lol.

LMAO. The meltdowns continue.
Yes, someone having a different opinion is completely on purpose to be different from the club. Holy shit are you 12

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Seems perfectly fine to me. If someone responds with rage at that perfectly valid observation then they have some deep deep issues.

If you want to be taken seriously as a critic, the first step would probably be to actually write criticism rather than trying to annoy sad little fanboys. There's a lot to be said about ludonarrative dissonance.

So say it.

To me you can discuss this every time you want, but you can't weight it into analisis unless you make a stand and want to change the world of how things should be done because seriously, you kill stuff in games all the time with or without reason and this happens in movies too, every action movie.

So yeah, there's a discussion to be had but this is not a topic that developers want to tell, they are telling another story with conventions already accepted. You can't rise your finger for one and not for the other.
I think this has little to do with Jims score, I didn't even read his review I just comment on the idea, the concept. I think Jim could have rate the game as a 10/10 and put this stuff as a con and for me it's still kinda silly or impossible to sustain.

I do think that asking for consistency in how a critic talks about or scores ludonarrative dissonance issues isn't too crazy.

 

[Loudninja]

To me you can discuss this every time you want, but you can't weight it into analisis unless you make a stand and want to change the world of how things should be done because seriously, you kill stuff in games all the time with or without reason and this happens in movies too, every action movie.

So yeah, there's a discussion to be had but this is not a topic that developers want to tell, they are telling another story with conventions already accepted. You can't rise your finger for one and not for the other.
I think this has little to do with Jims score, I didn't even read his review I just comment on the idea, the concept. I think Jim could have rate the game as a 10/10 and put this stuff as a con and for me it's still kinda silly or impossible to sustain.

Yeah I mean unless the game was design a certain way I dont see much discussion here.

Its typical 3rd person shooter setup no deeper meaning.

 

[silva1991]

Uncharted 2: 96 on Metacritic
TLOU: 95 on Metactiric
Uncharted 4: 94 on Metacritic



Druckmann and Straley need to pack it up. Dudes have clearly been all downhill since Uncharted 2!

People a year or two years ago were right. ND are losing their talents after the layoffs

 

[The Artisan]

Jim & IGN reviews seem so arbitrary.

Let's just throw some rando numbers so we can be different from the club, even though it's better than x, y, z game that we assigned higher numbers to..

lol.

i think ign reviews are the most looked at. their reviews get the most looks on youtube, aside from angry joe

 

[msdstc]

Okay, sorry sorry sorry. I just despised his remark.

And QB was so unimpressive to me.

UC4 is great. But Jim has his own opinions. To each his / her own.

Do you already have your copy of uc4?

 

[T.O.P]

Anticipating the EZA review anyway, shame they haven't got their copy

 

[The Artisan]

Some of these bait posts here are so transparent though. At least with the UC3 review thread, it was one big mess of a thread. This thread though has been pretty chill and upbeat with only one or two 'meltdown' posts interpersed at random (well until jim's tweet got posted anway but even then it's honestly been pretty tame). And somehow the thread still 'delivers'. Uh huh.

I giess if you're desperate enough, you'll see what you want to see.

what meltdowns?

i haven't been that active in this thread it's a busy day at work

 

[Altered Juice]

Do you already have your copy of uc4?

 

[Raysod]

I look forward to play this great game, Naughty Dog probably has the best tools in the business (graphics engine, shaders, animation)…

I want to see how the characters interact and how the story develops in the game and how Last of Us inspired the design of U4...

Gameplay mechanics wise I have to say that I wanted a little more innovation from ND.

I expected more than constantly using the rope, the sliding and the grappling hook...

Last of Us spoiled me a lot in that matter, especialy in harder difficulty levels...

And why we need the PS4.5 again?

Just give more money, more time and more creation freedom to developers…

 

[Loudninja]

Do you already have your copy of uc4?

Yeah he has been playing it for awhile now.

 

[Kyrios]

Sounds good, looks like they all enjoyed their time with the game.

 

[Plum]

This is the highest rated game of the generation so far right? I know it's the highest rated exclusive, beating out Super Mario 3d world, just curious if it's the highest rated game including multiplats.

MGSV on PS4 just edges it out at 95. However, when the difference between "best scoring" and "the rest" is a singular point in Metacritic it doesn't really matter. What matters is that games as good as UC4, TW3, etc are still being released.

 

[JaseC]

Do you remember the infamous UC3 Wall of Shame? There are still dopes who, to this day, think that everything in that post is genuine.

What evidence do you have that some of the posts are not genuine? I mean, if you're literally going to label people stupid for taking all of the posts at face value, then I can only assume you've some actual, tangible data to back up your needlessly condescending stance and not a hand-wavey "lol come on guys nobody actually thinks like that like omg".

 

[shandy706]

Do you already have your copy of uc4?

This is one of those moments where someone should have to prove they played the game they're bashing and the game they're praising.

Jim played both, Jim complimented both.

Who knows if that poster has played QB, let alone UC4?

Edit* Actually, I'm thinking his opinion of it may come from the PC version...so that may be why he's not happy, haha.

 

[Dragun619]

Congrats to ND.

Really starving to play this, man. Haven't spoiled too much for myself outside of the trailers, so whew. Im ready for this.

 

[Rozart]

This is the highest rated game of the generation so far right? I know it's the highest rated exclusive, beating out Super Mario 3d world, just curious if it's the highest rated game including multiplats.

Not counting remastered games? Yes, it is. ✌🏽️

 

[antitrop]

MGSV on PS4 just edges it out at 95. However, when the difference between "best scoring" and "the rest" is a singular point in Metacritic it doesn't really matter. What matters is that games as good as UC4, TW3, etc are still being released.

MGSV is at 93.

The Xbox One version is at 95, because it only has 10 reviews counted, so it's not fully representative (PS4 version has 86 reviews).

 

[msdstc]

This avatar quote makes no sense

Yeah he has been playing it for awhile now.

Just making sure. Regardless people need to relax, no reason to attack him for the opinion.

 

[illmatic22]

Batman v Superman review thread will never be topped. We ascended to a whole nother plane of existence in that one. Truly the GOAT review thread.

 

[The Artisan]

This avatar quote makes no sense

(as someone who probably holds the record for most avatar quotes) you may not always get it, but they don't get posted for no reason.

 

[Plum]

MGSV is at 93.

The Xbox One version is at 95, because it only has 10 reviews counted, so it's not fully representative.

Ah, I so I guess it is. I must have misread! My point still stands, though.

 

[jeffram]

Let me preface by saying I hate the whole argument. Its a game its tone is like Indiana Jones. Who cares! You also take a ton of bullets and survive! You heal by not getting hit by bullets for a bit.

That being said the argument is that the goal is to get treasure, so he's murdering his competitors in order to get the treasure before them.

That's a very simplified objective. But even then, let's go with it.

Drake doesn't shoot people because they are competition. He is shooting at them because they will kill him. The great thing about video games is you get to experiment and try again. I'm sure that anyone you don't kill in the game (but can), will Kill you if you walk up to them or let them see you.

That being said, he's walking in with a gun so he knows what he's in for. At worst you can say that in his pursuit of treasure, he doesn't hesitate to put himself in a position where people will try and kill him and he will have to kill them first if they do.

 

[Hedrush]

People surely can't have a different opinion than you and call out people being shitheads because they are raging over a goddamn video game score, no, they have to be a "freak" wanting "attention".

Did you even read the post I was quoting?

I have no idea who this Jim guy is. Why should his opinion matter so much to so many people. Why is he getting riled up and tweeting about other people getting riled up? I'm not seeing any other reviewers attacking the "rabid fanboys" in tweets. Dude needs to get out the business of he can't hack a bit of fanboyism.

 

[msdstc]

(as someone who probably holds the record for most avatar quotes) you may not always get it, but they don't get posted for no reason.

OK explain then. This makes 0 sense. I asked if the guy had his copy yet.

 

[amstradcpc]

Or, you know, it's just their opinion?

As is his.

 

[dealer-]

i want a 95 to get on Last of Us level just that

I see, 94 this gen is better than a 95 from last gen anyway.

A lot of people care in review threads. My first ban on neogaf was asking the RDR graphic comparison thread why people care about the differences so much when it's not a big deal. I got banned for undermining the purpose of the of the thread or something.

lol yeah, the ban hammer was always looming in review threads before. Doesn't seem so bad these days.