After I beat this game on hard, I'm going to revisit some of these reviews and truly see if they actually had any fucking idea what they're talking about. This is the same thing that happened with the Last of Us for me. I'm convinced that some reviewers played TLoU on normal with listening mode on, based on some of the gameplay criticisms I read. If I would have played the game like that, there's no way I would have enjoyed it as much.
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Uncharted 4 - A Thief's |Reviews Thread| Nateness Awaits
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After I beat this game on hard, I'm going to revisit some of these reviews and truly see if they actually had any fucking idea what they're talking about. This is the same thing that happened with the Last of Us for me. I'm convinced that some reviewers played TLoU on normal with listening mode on, based on some of the gameplay criticisms I read. If I would have played the game like that, there's no way I would have enjoyed it as much.
ElephantShell
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Is the Kinda Funny discussion spoiler-free?
gamerMan
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Would be better to compare it without editing the final UC4 image.
Yes, when you don't crop out his face you can really see there is very little bounce light in the scene as the image appears very dark though there are a lot details you can't see because of the way the image was captured.
MegaSackman
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According to OpenCritic, it is closer to a 93. I think as more reviews come, it will drop one point. I saw this happen with Bloodborne and The Witcher 3 a few weeks after release. And yes, I do check.
Yeah but they are more than 20 reviews short...
ScaryShark
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Relatively. Some are more sensitive to stuff that I found benign/obvious though. I personally think it's worth the watch.
The Artisan
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na, no complaints here...(other than the fact that there's no splitscreen) graphics will be jaw dropping for sure, hopefully
i get that, i'm just saying in that specific shot the original just looks more real to me, especially remembering how it was first revealed. the final product is of course very impressive but easier to tell that it is a video game.
My man Bernie is just happy the game received a less-than-perfect score.
yeah that game is very different when that shit is off. by a mile. its not even a hyperbole
"... of the year" seems like unintentional hollow praise as that's not exactly a high bar. The only other big-budget, hardware-pushing game that comes to mind is The Division, and an argument could be made for Ratchet & Clank (it's certainly a visually striking game, but the idea of style trumping substance [i.e. rendering technology] tends to be forgotten when it comes to best graphics proclamations).
Equanimity
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That's a preview. And a really bad one at that.
CrichtonKicks
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Right, because movies aren't full of likable protagonists killing bad guys who never stop for introspection?
RedRedSuit
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People will have opinions.
Like J. Schreier of Kotaku flatly states that shooting segments in previous Uncharted entries were off-putting, while implying the rest was good. Presumably this includes Uncharted 2. Meanwhile, most Uncharted fans, including me, love the shooting... otherwise why would we love the games, which are utterly dominated by shooting? Of course each game is the sum of its parts, but whenever someone tries to make "Uncharted is cool other than shooting" the dominant narrative, I just shake my head. It just isn't the case. At its best (Uncharted 2, hopefully 4) the series is the pinnacle of 3rd person shooter level design, with a nice selection of weapons and competent controls.
not enough bad reviews for his taste
The fact that a PC site admits it's the best looking game is a music to my ears, I'd ignore their gameplay comment though
(seen enough of it, if it's generic than any TPS can be called like that)
RAIDEN1
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In some respects this is the game I would have wanted Metal Gear 5 Phantom Pain to be, ie a tight story, good amount of drama....action packed from the get-go, a little less focus on the stealth..though I know it's a mainstay of that franchise...
Having put my pre-order in as I enjoyed the previous parts of Uncharted so far, can't wait to play this!!!!
Having put my pre-order in as I enjoyed the previous parts of Uncharted so far, can't wait to play this!!!!
LifEndz
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Time for the second wave of outrage to commence!
texhnolyze
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So, which matters the most then. Metacritic scores or our own judgements?
Yeah thats pretty high praise.The fact that a PC site admits it's the best looking game is a music to my ears, I'd ignore their gameplay comment though
DannyDanger
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While it still looks mind blowing, I am pretty sure that the E3 2014 was never rendered on the PS4. It was likely prerendered footage from the engine. This is obvious from the hair which doesn't seem to be using the same Kajiya-kay hair shader as the E3 footage.
Also, you can see more polygonal edges on Nate's gun strap. The gouge in Nate's head looks a lot less intense. Most importantly, the overall lighting doesn't exhibit the global illumination in the original trailer, appearing a lot flatter with very little bounce light. Perhaps the lighting was faked by manually placing in a bunch of bounce lights, but it's obvious that the amount of bounce lights available in realtime even to fake an approximation was just not enough.
Shit looks the same to me, besides the scar...
Either way it looks better than anything i've seen on ps4
PLASTICA-MAN
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The fact that a PC site admits it's the best looking game is a music to my ears, I'd ignore their gameplay comment though
I feel the same too. I was even surprised.
Opencritic only has 16 of the 10/10 reviews whereas metacritic has 26.
brandonh83
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I bumped up my preorder to the special edition because of the 94 Metacritic. Anything below that and I would have just gotten the standard edition.
ElephantShell
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Thanks! Yeah I'm not crazy about spoilery stuff, as long as there is no big plot points discussed I'm good to go.
Psychoward
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I don't even like the UC campaigns too much (buying 4 for the mp) but the salt the UC review threads spawn on both sides is glorious. Love it.
Do you play other TPS ?
Because Uncharted has objectively the worst melee and shooting feedback out of any recent game in the same genre.
Not talking about UC4, apparently they fixed it !
You enjoy the games for the locations, set pieces, characters and I guess the different gameplay elements. But as far as combat goes, old Uncharted were really awful for modern standards.
Just like the platforming with shitty ledges highlights were stupid compared to an assassin's creed.
Kenzodielocke
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Sony. Be smart and let Conan play this.
Jimmy Fallon's review:
Congrats to @Naughty_Dog, they've done it again. Uncharted 4 on PS4 is pure fun!!
Jimmy Fallon's review:
Congrats to @Naughty_Dog, they've done it again. Uncharted 4 on PS4 is pure fun!!
You should wait man. When the IGN review is counted (and maybe EDGE) the score can drop to 93. =]
Psychoward
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Yeah the shooting from UC1-UC3(which was pretty rough) to UC4 is a huuuuuge leap in quality.
Disagree completely. TPS are my bread and butter, and Uncharted has always been near the top.
I completely understand the view, though, it does have soft shooting feedback (which is why the punchy shooting of TLoU was so surprising), but I say this based on how the combat scenarios and shooting play out in spite of the inferior shooting feedback in the previous games. It's simply more fun to play for me.
I also disagree that melee is objectively worse than any other recent games in the genre. For one, Quantum Break doesn't even have melee, save for one auto-kill move, and Gears has always been restricted to the chainsaw kills and the completely pedestrian melee otherwise. What little Uncharted does with melee is much better than both.
I'll never understand the obsession with these "meltdowns"... How is that even entertaining? Seems like we've got turkeys in here trying to manufacture a meltdown. I thought my life was boring...
Psychoward
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Compared to Gears, Vanquish and Max Payne 3? You're outta your mind man. The shooting is pretty mediocre but it makes up for it in its platforming + shooting design. Uc4 finally has the shooting the series deserves.
The Artisan
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that's a big difference.
While it still looks mind blowing, I am pretty sure that the E3 2014 was never rendered on the PS4. It was likely prerendered footage from the engine. This is obvious from the hair which doesn't seem to be using the same Kajiya-kay hair shader as the E3 footage.
Also, you can see more polygonal edges on Nate's gun strap. The gouge in Nate's head looks a lot less intense. Most importantly, the overall lighting doesn't exhibit the global illumination in the original trailer, appearing a lot flatter with very little bounce light. Perhaps the lighting was faked by manually placing in a bunch of bounce lights, but it's obvious that the amount of bounce lights available in realtime even to fake an approximation was just not enough.
Wow, it actually looks basically the same imo. I think the cinematic angle of the first shot make it look more appealing and realistic, but otherside it honestly looks the same to me. Cant believe they managed to do it. I guess the various "best graphics ever" statements we've had so far about this game were really on point.
ScaryShark
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Seems like the exact inoffensive and unsubstantial tweet I'd expect Jimmy Fallon to make about a game. I wonder if he laughed and clapped his hands together too
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Uncharted is undraggable. What's the issue here?
Glorified G
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LMAO.
This thread ayyy
Seems perfectly fine to me. If someone responds with rage at that perfectly valid observation then they have some deep deep issues.
The saltyness over Jim's review is off the charts lmao
Lawd. Has there been anyone more emotionally invested in Uncharted 4 reviews than this guy? Imagine if this game wasn't critically acclaimed and there were more reviews like Jim Sterling's. Your meltdown might actually be worse.
RedRedSuit
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Yes. I've played all the major titles -- Max Payne 3, Gears (granted, only the original), Vanquish, Tomb Raider.
It (at least in 2) also has the best, most vertical level and encounter design.
The melee works fine.
No, the combat is absolutely world-class taken as a whole package. I get the criticisms of stuff like feedback or the "feel" of the guns, but when it comes to the actual design of the battle and how many tactical possibilities there are, and how fun these are to execute, it is as good as it gets. At least 2 was. I just played through 2 just to see if it has aged well... and hell yes, it has. The battles -- and NO, not just the set piece moments -- are fun as fuck. The way vertical traversal is integrated into battles is fantastic. They scale well with difficulty levels too, Crushing being especially enjoyable.
This is an odd criticism. Certainly the platforming in Uncharted is nothing special -- it's simple and automatic and is more about the sights than the gameplay -- but the platforming in much of Ass Creed can be downright painful with very finicky controls.
DeepEnigma
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Hahaha, I give this a 10/8.5.
Don't laugh, someone will call you out for laughing at opinions and stuff.
Correct. The closest thing the SE has to in-game content is a bunch of Space Bucks ("Naughty Dog Points").
Milly Osworth
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Gamesradar is critical in their review on youtube and they get a boatload of dislikes. People are so childish.
Psychoward
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I don't understand how anyone can look at the last 20% of any Uncharted game and claim the shooting and encounter design isn't anything but mediocre at best. Level variety, vertical variety, pacing, music etc. are all great but it's riddled with shitty monsters and/or bullet sponges and poor weapon feedback.
Coolbgdog12
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amstradcpc
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Yeah,TLOU was milles better in the gunplay.If U4 has expanded in that formula we are ok.
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