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Uncharted 4 - A Thief's |Reviews Thread| Nateness Awaits

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AbandonedTrolley said:
Expectations

Uncharted 1 was a big step up graphically from the likes of Tomb Raider on the PS2, this time around ND had already done amazing work with U2/3 TLOU on the PS3 and the remasters also looked great. I guess U4 is a lot better, but maybe not as much of an impact as previous generational leap?
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However that would imply Black Ops3 exceded their expectations over previous CODs(I only take this game as an example of a recent game with several sequels), because a 92, right?.

I know the answer, opinions...
 
Techradar Verdict:Play It Now
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/uncharted-4-a-thief-s-end-review-1320412/1

Pocket lint 5/5
Spoiler pic in this review!
You might lament the 15-16 hour campaign as being too short, but that is lengthy by modern standards. And the fact you feel like racing through it in a matter of days is testament to its premium quality. You also then have the expansive, fun multiplayer to extend play time.
Uncharted 4 is not just the best Uncharted game, it can be argued that it is the best PS4 game full stop – certainly in looks, writing, acting and detail. It is Naughty Dog's love letter to fans and sets the bar by which all future current-gen games will be judged.
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/137518-uncharted-4-a-thief-s-end-review-going-out-with-a-bang

independent.co.uk 5/5
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...l-final-to-a-spectacular-series-a7014471.html
 
tzare said:
Exactly. You pay for it. The only 'complain' about being too long would be if you want to see how the plot ends, or if extremely repetitive (but all games have repetitive gameplay, i mean even the most fun ones you end doing the same over and over). Maybe people should play the games in shorter sessions to avoid that kind of 'fatigue'.

And reviewers are just ... well I cannot trust them anymore. Some scores and reviews seem to search for clicks, or fanboyish arguments.And giving more importance to nitpicking than the whole picture. They look just regular players, not someone that acts professionally.
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I'd like to know what the difference is between a gaming loop (the addictive drive to play) and repetition. I can't see a distinction really.

Nightengale said:
8.8 is effectively the final score taking into account just the SP experience.
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Thanks.

You might lament the 15-16 hour campaign as being too short, but that is lengthy by modern standards.
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LOL. IGN think it's too long while this site thinks it could be seen as too short. I get opinions but when THREE people from the SAME site on the SAME podcast (a podcast with only THREE people) have EXACTLY the same view, I feel something is afoot. I don't trust them.
 
Square Triangle said:
The guy at PS4 trophies said there's 190 collectible items, my god- that makes Donkey Kong 64 blush in envy.
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By collectibles do you mean Treasures? Because that's almost double the amount of treasures you could find in Uncharted 2 & 3 (100).

Getting that platinum trophy is going to take a while I guess. I can't wait to play it :)
 
AbandonedTrolley said:
Possibly, because it's COD not sure who goes in to those games with great expectations anymore.
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Then why treat a game differently, with expectations, and punish its score while its not made with others?. I told it yesterday and i repeat it know, it´s not fair, neither for readers nor for developers.
 
ChemicalWorld said:
Sorry for the derail but RotTR was terrible compared to the reboot. The upgrades were mostly combat focused and if you wanted every weapon upgrade in the game you had to needlessly grind specific areas for items. The metroidvania elements were pale in comparison because of the large open areas and the story was laughable compared to the reboot. With that said Game give me Uncharted 4 now!
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I liked the reboot too, tripple dipped on it lol, but our opinions are vastly different since I thought RotTR was even better. Way better and more open maps, better crafting and upgrade mechanic, can't say that I grinded any specific area tbh and still did a 100% play-through, at the end of the game I jst replayed a few areas to find hidden stuff but not to get more crafting items. The most annoying collectaton was to find the bulls eye targets, probably searched for 2 hours before I found tha last one but at that point there was zero chance that I would settle with a 99% play-through :P
Anyhow, sorry to bring this off-topic, can't wait for my UC4 Libertalia Collector's Edition to arrive :)
 
amstradcpc said:
Then why treat a game differently, with expectations, and punish its score while its not made with others?. I told yesterday and i repeat it know, it´s not fair.
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I agree, I'm not saying it's right, because by all accounts what i'm reading, reviewers are saying best PS4 game ever, so that means better than the 97 average GTA5 received.

I just think their reputation precedes them and as such the expectation is high and sometimes missed, if any other company pushed it out it could probably gain a few more %
 
Muntu said:
Well I mean... Games can be too long. 18 hours sounds a bit too long to my taste, but we'll see.



Have you never played a game that you felt like was too long?
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After finishing some open world games I've thought that maybe it has taken up too much of my time but never during play. During play my biggest problem with lengthy games were that there are too much repetitive tasks I have to do or I have to travel a lot to reach the next point where I can do something unique thing.
Length were never a problem.
If someone plays a multiplayer game for 100 hours is it too long?
 
Nightengale said:
The reward factor.
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which is subjective. Unless a game has infinite grinding or items or rewards that really add to the experience. And even that would be interesting or not depending on personal tastes. I grinded in Castlevaina SOTN so much that i could kill Dracula in less than a second. I had a blast playing that. Even if it wasn't challenging.
Other games, like open world, Batman for example, it bores me to death repeating side missions. even if they give me a trophy or a new collectible
 
JBwB said:
By collectibles do you mean Treasures? Because that's almost double the amount of treasures you could find in Uncharted 2 & 3 (100).

Getting that platinum trophy is going to take a while I guess. I can't wait to play it :)
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Didn't specify on Twitter. I'm excited to collect!
 
Muntu said:
I don't know, is there a clear goal they need to reach to be able to "finish" the game, and it takes them a hundred hours? That's a terrible argument and we both know it.
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If someone is finishing the Witcher 3 in 50 hours is it too long?
The perception of time is relative. If you find something boring the time feels goes slower if it is enjoyable then the time flies by.
Maybe the reviewer is using the too long words to describe his feeling about boring parts that could be left out. But then the real complaint is not about the time needed to finish the game. imho
 
Lacix said:
If someone is finishing the Witcher 3 in 50 hours is it too long?
The perception of time is relative. If you find something boring the time feels goes slower if it is enjoyable then the time flies by.
Maybe the reviewer is using the too long words to describe his feeling about boring parts that could be left out. But then the real complaint is not about the time needed to finish the game. imho
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The only time I consider a game to be too long, is when I hoping for it to end, if that doesn't happen it wasn't too long for me.
 
Lacix said:
If someone is finishing the Witcher 3 in 50 hours is it too long?
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Depends.

I do think even the best paced games can be too long for a multitude of reasons, but clearly we'll never agree on this, so it's easier to just agree to disagree. If someone wants to think I'm insane for feeling this, go ahead.
 
Reading through these reviews... sounds like it sets a whole new benchmark for action/adventure game campaigns with what seems like an unanimous opinion of it having the perfect and most rewarding ending. Comparisons to Ocarina of Time and Grand Theft Auto 3 regarding its importance.
 
Wollan said:
Reading through these reviews... sounds like it sets a whole new benchmark for action/adventure game campaigns with what seems like an unanimous opinion of it having the perfect and most rewarding ending. Comparisons to Ocarina of Time and Grand Theft Auto 3 regarding its importance.
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I think GB said it best:
The jump in quality from Uncharted 3 to 4 is similar to the ways the second entry trounced the original. It’s still the same Nathan Drake partaking in the same ludicrous, death-defying action as before, but everything is done with so much more panache. I haven’t gone into detail about the specifics of the setpiece moments, as I’d hate to rob readers of the “Oh, WOW” feeling that I had so many times during my dozen-plus hours with the campaign. There was a steady stream of moments that I loved, from insane action sequences that literally dropped my jaw to somber storyline moments in between bombastic firefights. Uncharted 4 isn’t a perfect game...it runs a couple of chapters too long, some of the puzzles feel uninspired, and its multiplayer component is serviceable but largely forgettable. Those nitpicks are in no way significant enough for me to consider A Thief’s End as anything but the best entry in the Uncharted franchise, though. It’s not even just the best Uncharted game. This is one of the most fully-realized action campaigns of all time, and it sets a new bar of quality for what’s possible in the genre
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http://www.giantbomb.com/reviews/uncharted-4-a-thiefs-end-review/1900-744/
 
JBwB said:
By collectibles do you mean Treasures? Because that's almost double the amount of treasures you could find in Uncharted 2 & 3 (100).

Getting that platinum trophy is going to take a while I guess. I can't wait to play it :)
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I have heard that collectibles are than just treasures now. I think its more akin to TLOU with its notes and Firefly pendants.
 
MaverickHunterAsh said:
OH YES. I didn't get to review Uncharted 4, but I did at least score my copy five days early thanks to my trusty local video game store! They even stayed open 15 minutes past closing time because I was in a screening of Captain America: Civil War when they called and the movie ended too late for me to get there before closing. They're the best. <3

I CAN'T BELIEVE UNCHARTED 4 IS FINALLY HERE AND I'M ABOUT TO PLAY IT. One of my top three most-anticipated games of 2016 to be sure, alongside Final Fantasy XV and Rhythm Heaven Megamix. See ya'll on the other side. :)

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Floody said:
The only time I consider a game to be too long, is when I hoping for it to end, if that doesn't happen it wasn't too long for me.
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Same here and that pretty much happens in every open world game I play, even the Witcher 3. At which point I just go straight for the main story missions and finish. It always slightly sours me on a game. I can still say that I love the Witcher to bits though, Dragon Age Inquisition is a whole other thing, I can barely think of any positives I was so thoroughly sick of it by the end. It doesn't happen too often with story driven games though for me.
 
Grassy said:
Great reviews, really looking forward to what looks like an amazing game.

I better finish off Uncharted 3 this weekend. I just started it the other day and I'm enjoying it so far(only up to Chapter 4).
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Got some high highs to come!

And a few lows.

Still a great game, though. In terms of 'moments', it's the best game in the ND collection.

ChemicalWorld said:
Sorry for the derail but RotTR was terrible compared to the reboot. The upgrades were mostly combat focused and if you wanted every weapon upgrade in the game you had to needlessly grind specific areas for items. The metroidvania elements were pale in comparison because of the large open areas and the story was laughable compared to the reboot. With that said Game give me Uncharted 4 now!
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I'm playing RotTR right now for the first time and in terms of gameplay it definitely seems better than the reboot. The puzzles are better, the areas are better designed (some even gave me Jak and Daxter vibes which is a great thing).

The story is still shit, but remember those 'fully upgrade' things are basically optional. Many of the skills aren't, but the upgrade system is only really an issue if you're OCD about 100%ing everything. Which I, and I'd wager most people, are not.

If I'll be bored collecting/upgrading some item, I just ignore it and move on to things which I'm compelled to do. These are games. This is how they should be played, when you're just looking for fun/adventure.
 
Do you know what would be sublime? If ND put out a vid of all the actors thanking their fans for the many years of support, but they use their in game characters to do it.
 
Do any of the reviews mentioned the MP item prices in relics? Just wondering what the bonuses I've got from the mobile app are worth.
 
Any UK pre-orderers had theirs dispatched? I saw a couple of people posting that Game had dispatched theirs? Waiting on a SimplyGames order, if they're true to their word they're not posting til Monday.

Jennipeg said:
Not me, Amazon aren't dispatching mine till Monday. Don't let me down again Amazon!
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Hmm, interesting that Amazon also seem bound by the Monday dispatch thing, but Game seem to be ignoring it. Unless that's just usual Amazon policy to post the day before for pre-orders.
 
Hale_C said:
Any UK pre-orderers had theirs dispatched? I saw a couple of people posting that Game had dispatched theirs? Waiting on a SimplyGames order, if they're true to their word they're not posting til Monday.
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Not me, Amazon aren't dispatching mine till Monday. Don't let me down again Amazon!
 
Hale_C said:
Any UK pre-orderers had theirs dispatched? I saw a couple of people posting that Game had dispatched theirs? Waiting on a SimplyGames order, if they're true to their word they're not posting til Monday.
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Jennipeg said:
Not me, Amazon aren't dispatching mine till Monday. Don't let me down again Amazon!
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Strange, Amazon UK says they're dispatching mine tomorrow.

Though it's the Special Edition.
 
J4g3r said:
Strange, Amazon UK says they're dispatching mine tomorrow.

Though it's the Special Edition.
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But.... but... so is mine! :(

I don't think Amazon like me much.

Edit: I'm a prime member and my stuff comes via courier not Royal Mail, so maybe that's why the aren't sending mine yet?
 
For me, a great single-player story-driven game is almost never too long. In a film, there is a natural limit: you can't just sit in the cinema for 6 hours. But a game you can always put down and pick up the next day. A feeling I LOVE is when it feels like the game is close to ending, and then suddenly you enter an amazing new area and suddenly realize you've got another huge chunk full of gameplay left. This happens all too rarely, unfortunately.

An important predicate for this is that the game needs to be good. If the game is only okay, making it longer doesn't help matters.

The reverse happens all the time, sadly. "Wait... that's it?" after waiting for years... it sucks. I think Uncharted 3 had this; not because it was particularly short, but because, like, the first half was a linear walk-a-thon/run-a-thon (Syria section excepted).
 
Hale_C said:
Any UK pre-orderers had theirs dispatched? I saw a couple of people posting that Game had dispatched theirs? Waiting on a SimplyGames order, if they're true to their word they're not posting til Monday.

Hmm, interesting that Amazon also seem bound by the Monday dispatch thing, but Game seem to be ignoring it. Unless that's just usual Amazon policy to post the day before for pre-orders.
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Had my dispatch email, so hope it arrives today or tomorrow.
 
keuja said:
Complaining that the game is too long? Fools. At least, find some real negatives.
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I think it's legitimate thing to discuss. Keeping the player gripped for 15 hours is a tough ask. I though Uncharted 2 ran an hour too long honestly. NeoGAF is not representative of the common gamer, most players don't finish games. While others want to squeeze as much time out of a title as possible.
 
So guys, I don't want to read any reviews (don't want to be spoiled) but are there any mentions surrounding the best difficulty to start the game on?
 
The longer the better for me. At least for games of this sort of calibre. I think one of the reasons games like Uncharted 2 (compared to 1 and 2), Last of Us and Resident Evil 4 are so accomplished and rewarding is precisely because they are longer, so by the end you really feel like you've been through it all, and there's an extreme sense of gratification and satisfaction on completion. I don't really get quite that same feeling with shorter games of this kind. For example, I felt there simply wasn't enough to Uncharted DF, and felt Uncharted 3 was rushed in the sense that segments were thrown together in an overly hasty way and it just didn't feel well paced the way Uncharted 2, Uncharted 4 and Last of Us do.
 
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