X-Men Apocalypse Review Thread

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I will defeat Bobby's shit right here and now.

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"IT IS IMPORTANT WE GET THIS COSTUME THE MOST RIGHT OF ALL."
 
Is this the part where you ignore multiple people claiming that very sentiment in this thread to look edgy and aloof? You're just too cool.

And the Avengers are finished, huh. So Cap, the WS, Hawkeye et al won't be aiding the other heroes in the Infinity Wars? That's really the 'argument' you're going with?
... Are you real?

If a marriage fails, it's possible it can be repaired. That still doesn't mean the relationship didn't fail, or that those involved won't have to work through their problems.

It's also like going "oh, he broke his leg? So what? It'll heal. What's the big deal?" If someone is maimed or injured and might recover, it still doesn't belittle the actual injury that happened.
 
They absolutely were not.

A) No resolution to the entire premise of the movie- Do the Avengers now act with supervision, or do they not? Are Cap and his buddies just going to instill their own vigilante justice? Or, are they just going to hide in the shadows until a common enemy appears, and they team up to fight it... Which is exactly what is going to happen, and we all know it.
B) Rhodes, with the use of whatever technology Stark can make for him, will for all intents and purposes not be paralyzed anymore. He'll be able to do anything he was able to prior to the accident
C) The current members of the crew that are incarcerated will only be so until they're needed (see point A) and be released when they need help. So... Who gives a shit?

But whatever, this criticism is just coming from the mind of a Fox/DCU fan and thus should be completely ignored. Or something like that.

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Has anyone done a dialogue/screen time diagnostic

I don't think so, but even if it turned out said metric was still in Steve's favor, the emotional stakes aren't Steve's, they're Tony's. Everything in the movie runs through that guy, and I don't just mean the plotting. I mean the way the characters act/react/are introduced/are shuffled off the board.

Civil War is a movie that is most concerned with affecting Tony, and having Tony affect others.

Cap pretty much runs in a straight, flat line from beginning to end. He has no arc. Tony starts one place, ends up in another, and has a motherfucker of a time trying to handle that journey.
 
Is this the part where you ignore multiple people claiming that very sentiment in this thread to look edgy and aloof? You're just too cool.

What are you talking about?

I'd say the few people, including yourself, claiming said sentiments then following up with some nonsense strawmen about how they're persecuted and whatnot are the ones attempting to be edgy and aloof, lmao.

I mean, you're the one who thinks the MCU is apparently built on 'cowardice', haha. Don't cut yourself, bud.

And the Avengers are finished, huh. So Cap, the WS, Hawkeye et al won't be aiding the other heroes in the Infinity Wars? That's really the 'argument' you're going with?

We've no clue how it'll play out, how the Avengers will come together in the end. Their lack of synergy and agreement with one another as a result of Civil War might be the reason for their losses in Infinity War, and how Thanos partly succeeds and deals great damage to the heroes.
 
That's disappointing. I was hoping for another DOFP-level movie.

At this rate I'll be watching any and all upcoming comic book mediocrities on video. Civil War is another one I didn't bother to get off my ass to go watch.
 
I don't think so, but even if it turned out said metric was still in Steve's favor, the emotional stakes aren't Steve's, they're Tony's. Everything in the movie runs through that guy, and I don't just mean the plotting. I mean the way the characters act/react/are introduced/are shuffled off the board.

Civil War is a movie that is most concerned with affecting Tony, and having Tony affect others.

Cap pretty much runs in a straight, flat line from beginning to end. He has no arc. Tony starts one place, ends up in another, and has a motherfucker of a time trying to handle that journey.

I mean eh sure

movie should have been called Marvel's Civil War and leave it at that

but if you take this movie, as is, and call it Iron Man: Civil War it just doesnt work, it still works better with Cap's name on it if you think about it, regardless of who has the biggest arc

there's an edit out there that works with Iron Man's name on it, sure
 
I don't think so, but even if it turned out said metric was still in Steve's favor, the emotional stakes aren't Steve's, they're Tony's. Everything in the movie runs through that guy, and I don't just mean the plotting. I mean the way the characters act/react/are introduced/are shuffled off the board.

Civil War is a movie that is most concerned with affecting Tony, and having Tony affect others.

Cap pretty much runs in a straight, flat line from beginning to end. He has no arc. Tony starts one place, ends up in another, and has a motherfucker of a time trying to handle that journey.
Truth. Not that it being Tony's movie is a bad thing
 
Cap 3 absolutely felt like Tonys movie character-wise and so that, along with mcu's best action sequences by far, is prolly why it's my favorite mcu movie since....Iron Man
 
Just a friendly reminder that Fox didn't even want to make Deadpool... And now he's their biggest success over ALL the other X-men films.

... Well done, Wade.
 
I thought this was the old thread at first and dismissed it.

Holy shit if this reviews poorly with critics. I was ribbing on this films marketing but I never actually thought the film would turn out less than amazing in the end. Will def keep tabs on that rt score as we approach release.
 
Yessssss. The world has caught up! Singer X-Men is shit-tier X-Men.

Deadpool and First Class are the best honest tries at adapting the material. No more room for pretenders.



Getting The Blob completely 100% right and then none of the actual X-Men is the sort of bizarre whiff I'll never comprehend.

lmao that's astonishing
 
What are you talking about?

I'd say the few people, including yourself, claiming said sentiments then following up with some nonsense strawmen about how they're persecuted and whatnot are the ones attempting to be edgy and aloof, lmao.

I mean, you're the one who thinks the MCU is apparently built on 'cowardice', haha. Don't cut yourself, bud.

Hysterical, considering I was responding to a post that claimed exactly that. But I guess you just happened to miss that post. I forgive you.

And no, I never said the universe was 'built on cowardice' (speaking of constructing strawmen), but that they've gotten too big and can't really take any chances. I'm not the only one with this opinion, so I have no idea what's edgy about it... But whatever makes you feel better, I guess. Have at it.
 
guys stop talking about "why did they chose The Blob to get it right"

they put a fucking yellow strip on him WOAH!
 
Truth. Not that it being Tony's movie is a bad thing

Not at all.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if, in a couple months, the narrative turns out to be something along the lines of "this is the Iron Man 3 you should have gotten."

Especially if you're the kind of superhero fan who thought Iron Man 3 wasn't good because it decided it would rather be a Shane Black movie than a Marvel one.
 
Loved First Class, DoFP was ok but thought the trailers for this made it looked pants.

Feel the same

But the thing is: posters and trailers for FC and DOFP were also pretty bad


But this time... it seems it will not work out.

None of this would have happened if Storm was the leader instead of Mystique
 
my favorite thing about the accurate costume talk is that Mystique never had one single fuckin scale on her body in the comics yet no one ever brings it up, ever

you bunch of fakes
 
Cap pretty much runs in a straight, flat line from beginning to end. He has no arc. Tony starts one place, ends up in another, and has a motherfucker of a time trying to handle that journey.

Would you say he sticks in the ground like some kind of plant and suggests other people make a motion?
 
Cap pretty much runs in a straight, flat line from beginning to end. He has no arc. Tony starts one place, ends up in another, and has a motherfucker of a time trying to handle that journey.

Right, but his straight shot creates the necessary ripple effect on the cast of characters like a speed boat parting still waters. Tony might have the more defined arc, but Steve is the impetus to pretty much everyone in the film (and Tony's antagonist).

RDJ chews up the scenery like a locust swarm and I think that causes people to see it as more Stark's story when I don't feel that's necessarily the case


Though, TBH, I can see the argument for both sides, which is partly why the narrative itself is so compelling.
 
Cap 3 absolutely felt like Tonys movie character-wise and so that, along with mcu's best action sequences by far, is prolly why it's my favorite mcu movie since....Iron Man

Come on man, even DoFP has a better more elegantly filmed action sequence than CW.

I guess my problem with it is how boring it all looked, sure what was happening was amazing, but how it looked was just mediocre to say the least.
 
Come on man, even DoFP has a better more elegantly filmed action sequence than CW.

I guess my problem with it is how boring it all looked, sure what was happening was amazing, but how it looked was just mediocre to say the least.

I said mcu's best. Which is what that whole airport sequence was I think. The movie opened up a bit of a mess but after that the rest of the action was good.
 
That's damning as fuck, wow.

It's fucking bullshit, though. Mendelson's review is reaching like a motherfucker as well.

This film's elevator stops at a basement that is still about 40 floors up from the filmmaking acumen Snyder displayed on Batman v Superman. To say it's almost as bad tells me maybe someone has some unique reasoning as to why Batman v. Superman failed them that I'm not privy to, because there's no comparison to be made between what Singer did on this film, even in its worst moments, to what Snyder did with that one.

Would you say he sticks in the ground like some kind of plant and suggests other people make a motion?

Heh. Kinda, yeah. But not really. Steve works in the previous movies because it hurts him to do the right thing, and it takes something out of him to do it. I don't get that with Civil War. This is the Cap movie where Cap kinda makes concessions that what he wants to do maybe is going to make things appreciably worse for a lot of people he cares about, but the general motivation behind his actions is more or less "Fuck you."

Cap doesn't care. Cap should care. In Civil War, he's a flat line barrelling forward with nothing more than lip-service for anyone else not named Bucky.

It thins him out severely in comparison to Tony.

(which I don't necessarily like, but didn't hurt the movie much either)
 
I have just recently watched all the xmen movies back to back while on sick leave, some of it was great, some of it wasn't, I mean most that wasn't particularly good wasn't particularly bad either, just unnecessary. Except Deadpool in X-Men: Origins, that did not happen it was terrible beyond compare, period. No idea which of the movies was better, seeing them all back to back blurred everything together, it's like a good TV show for me with some filler. Pretty sure I'll enjoy this as well, at least most of it.
 
Last Stand is a worse movie than Origins and it does vastly more harm to the franchise

at least Origins gave us a Deadpool joke in the new film. Last Stand straight up HAD to get a retcon and prompt an entire change in freaking timeline and setting
 
Here's another quote from the Collider Video review about Jennifer Lawrence.

"She must have put it in her contract that I'm only available for 4 days in costume for the rest of the 30 days, I'm not in costume".

Basically she gives one of the worst performances in a comic book movie in recent memory.

Maybe the Alice sequel isn't doomed after all.
 
They absolutely were not.

A) No resolution to the entire premise of the movie- Do the Avengers now act with supervision, or do they not? Are Cap and his buddies just going to instill their own vigilante justice? Or, are they just going to hide in the shadows until a common enemy appears, and they team up to fight it... Which is exactly what is going to happen, and we all know it.
B) Rhodes, with the use of whatever technology Stark can make for him, will for all intents and purposes not be paralyzed anymore. He'll be able to do anything he was able to prior to the accident
C) The current members of the crew that are incarcerated will only be so until they're needed (see point A) and be released when they need help. So... Who gives a shit?

But whatever, this criticism is just coming from the mind of a Fox/DCU fan and thus should be completely ignored. Or something like that.

What exactly do you want instead? All of that stuff is ultimately a strength for the health of the series. They are in a rough patch, it'll get better, it's how comic books (and long form storytelling in general) work. The open questions from this movie will play out over the next 9 in the next three years.

I'm not ignoring your criticism, I just can't imagine what you realistically expect from the MCU to do when keeping in mind the general tonal balance of fun/seriousness they are going for, the audience size they want, the amount of money they've sunk into developing these characters... you can't Game of Thrones a movie series, that shit doesn't work on two-three movies a year, rather than a tv series.

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of course TeamCap etc work in the shadows for a bit while TeamStark operate in the open. Then Thanos shows up to force them to reunite. Duh. That this is predictable isn't a weakness.

B
They already showed him struggling hard in CA:CW; IF the have him show up next time like nothing happened, then that'd be a cheap move, but as it is, they used the character beat to it's fullest and gave him time to shine right at the end of the film.

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They already got busted out at the end of the film... so...
 
It's fucking bullshit, though. Mendelson's review is reaching like a motherfucker as well.

This film's elevator stops at a basement that is still about 40 floors up from the filmmaking acumen Snyder displayed on Batman v Superman. To say it's almost as bad tells me maybe someone has some unique reasoning as to why Batman v. Superman failed them that I'm not privy to, because there's no comparison to be made between what Singer did on this film, even in its worst moments, to what Snyder did with that one.

This is good to hear. If thats the case, maybe Ill wait until its in its 3rd or so week and go see it at the theater anyway. I just don't want a repeat of BvS.
 
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