X-Men Apocalypse Review Thread

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Thank you for this
 
What the heck happened with this movie? Were there production issues or something?

X2 and Days of Future Past were so good that I wouldn't have thought a Singer led X-Men would be critically savaged liked this.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
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Singer is great. XMEN 1 and 2 are great. And they are very much XMEN films that get the characters right. Righter than a lot of superhero films.

someone said the same thing as Zodd, I asked for an explanation on how they're not XMEN films and got no answer so idk
 
Cipherr said:
He's done about 3-4 right? I mean, it doesn't seem odd to bring someone else on if he's done that many of them. Nolan did 3, Whedon 2. Russos are doing 4 and Snyder is doing 4 I think also right? MoS, BvS then two Justice Leagues.
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oh, I was refering to having that opinion about the films he's done

I have no issue with someone else helming them if he doesnt wanna do any more
 
It's probably not as bad as people are saying but with Civil War being so good it was measured up against that. It's probably bad but I can't imagine it being Wolverine Origins/Batman and Robin bad.
 
MisterHero said:
TBH it's Geoff Johns I'm more worried about

He had the opportunity to give Superman a new power, and what power did he give him?

The power to explode.

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Geoff Johns' input for the DCCU is surprisingly limited. He's currently handling the DC comics line, and they apparently only come to him for some general consulting.
 
Salsa said:
this shit is just baffling to me

I have no idea what movies you guys watched in the early 00s
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I was a kid when I watch X-Men 1, I left the theater feeling empty and so fucking disappointed, that movie was not an X-Men film that I wanted and all my friends all hated that movie too. I get the feeling that X-Men 2 is said to be great simply because it's a better film than the first film but I don't think it was all that great sure it's better but eh, more like a 7.5 compared to the first film being a 4. Deadpool with that little money and time did much better justice to the mutant characters that showed up. Hope Singer never gets he's hands on Deadpool franchise.
 
Net_Wrecker said:
DISCO!!!

YOU LIED TO ME

YOU PROMISED THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ONE

Never put faith in a superhero movie
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Yeah this was my last hyped one and they do me like this smh

I need to chill until I see the actual movie tho. It wouldn't be the first time they mislead me on a director i actually have interest in
 
Salsa said:
Singer is great. XMEN 1 and 2 are great. And they are very much XMEN films that get the characters right. Righter than a lot of superhero films.

someone said the same thing as Zodd, I asked for an explanation on how they're not XMEN films and got no answer so idk
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Storm and to a lesser extent Cyclops have been shit in his X-Men films thus far. He definitely didn't get them right in the original series. Although we'll see with this one.

The main characters that have come across well are Wolverine, Xavier and Magneto.
 
ZoddGutts said:
I was a kid when I watch X-Men 1, I left the theater feeling empty and so fucking disappointed, that movie was not an X-Men film that I wanted and all my friends all hated that movie too. I get the feeling that X-Men 2 is said to be great simply because it's a better film than the first film but I don't think it was all that great sure it's better but eh, more like a 7.5 compared to the first film being a 4. Deadpool with that little money and time did much better justice to the mutant characters that showed up. Hope Singer never gets he's hands on Deadpool franchise.
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what is an XMEN film to you then?

it dealt with the KEY things XMEN has always dealt with

every character interaction was the same as in the comics

it focused on the kind of drama that has always been the single biggest factor of the franchise rather than being big and loud for the sake of it

it's a great XMEN movie

from the sounds of it you were probably expecting something more akin to an episode of the 92 cartoon I guess?

we're probably getting that next

but saying Singer "doesnt get it" is just plain wrong to me, he very much does

heck dude loved the xmen growing up cause of the paralels to him struggling with being gay and all

shinra-bansho said:
Storm and to a lesser extent Cyclops have been shit in his X-Men films thus far. He definitely didn't get them right in the original series. Although we'll see with this one.
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I dont think they were bad. I think they were underused.

It's a hard thing to pace and give everyone the proper attention. I think for what it is the first 2 films focused on the right things.

He probably would have done something with Cyclops in 3, probably something better than fuckin kill him
 
James Marsden was a good Cyclops

Ratner just fucked us all over before he got to do anything other than "im the leader, and a dick, lol fuck you wolverine" which is still very much something he is, just not all he is

DOFP ending is the clearest fuck you from one director to the other ive seen lol

he deserves a shot to do more with the character
 
Salsa said:
what is an XMEN film to you then?

it dealt with the KEY things XMEN has always dealt with

every character interaction was the same as in the comics

it focused on the kind of drama that has always been the single biggest factor of the franchise rather than being big and loud for the sake of it

it's a great XMEN movie

from the sounds of it you were probably expecting something more akin to an episode of the 92 cartoon I guess?

we're probably getting that next

but saying Singer "doesnt get it" is just plain wrong to me, he very much does

heck dude loved the xmen growing up cause of the paralels to him struggling with being gay and all
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If you're thinking of the Collider interview, you're misremembering some things.
 
Cooter said:
What source do we have stating how involved Snyder is on WW?
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WB has gone on record to say they are friendly to director driven films where the director puts his stamp on the IP. Until otherwise proven (which even the scoop breakers have backed), this is what any logical person would roll with for now. Snyder has as much influence as Nolan probably did (very little).

Affleck on Justice League? That's different...
 
Glass Rebel said:
If you're thinking of the Collider interview, you're misremembering some things.
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im thinking of something he said very early on about how he felt very connected to the comic growing up and all, how it was an important project to him and all that

maybe im a dick and just made that connection myself but given the film and "coming out" being a big part of it I think it's kinda clear
 
For someone who read X-Men comics in the 80's to 90's, nope to Singer X-Men films, he thinks he knows what X-Men is but not really. Sure he's made some good X-Men films but I don't see them for being true X-Men films. Anyways I won't be missing this dude once he's gone, obviously not replaced by Brett Rathner level director. So glad that Miller got Deadpool spot on right and I have faith he'll get other mutants including Cable right, hope they go all in with the time travel and future stuff, nothing being ashamed for being a comic movie, have fun for what it is.
 
I remember a story about him telling the actors not to read the comics too much tho

I mean I dont care. I think he got the core right. It aint about adapting what's on the page frame by frame but rather just getting what each character is about

I think he did
 
Toa TAK said:
Wasn't that also detailed in the X-Men dvd waaaay back when?
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Is it right to assume that on the original X-Men there was some resistance to the very concept and to doing that movie at all?

SINGER: There was no concept. There was no template for it. Comic book movies had died, there was no concept of one as anything but camp. I took it on because I saw the thematics of it were interesting to me. I saw Xavier and Magneto as Martin Luther King and Malcolm X characters. I’m gay or bisexual, whatever, so that probably factored into it a bit because mutancy is discovered at that age in puberty when you’re different from your whole neighborhood and your family and you feel very isolated. So that probably factored into my decision to do it to some degree at least, and I wanted to get involved in action-adventure and this was an avenue to do it. The studio had always wanted to make an X-Men movie. Andrew Kevin Walker wrote a script, there’s a number of scripts that had been written, but after I met with Stan Lee who was wonderful and lovely, I just started to research the characters and I found them so compelling and their relationships with each other were so interesting that I thought ‘I can make this universe really cool, and I can see it through Wolverine’s eyes because he kind of doesn’t buy it.’

And this is where I will probably out myself as a non-comic book person, but I did not come from reading comic books. So for me I was very cynical about it, like ‘They call themselves Cyclops, Storm, Sabertooth,’ but with Wolverine, Logan, I said I can be Logan and by the end of the movie I can embrace this universe, so I can tell this story. Through him I can make this movie and I can make it like a film that happens to be based on a comic book, that happens to have action sequences in it, but it’s still to me a film. It’s not just genre. It’s a film. Like Usual Suspects or Apt Pupil or whatever films I had made at the time.
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From here

Not saying that (some of) his X-Men movies haven't been great tho.
 
Cooter said:
What source do we have stating how involved Snyder is on WW?
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By Synder's own admittance, the DCEU is more a sandbox than anything else. Directors can come in and do their own thing with their individual films. There's a general outline of plot points, timelines, and such that he has and makes everyone aware of/adhere to, but he likely won't be exerting a ton of creative control over projects that are not his own. And even if that were ever on the table, WB sure as hell isn't going to let him start meddling in other movies after BvS.
 
Ahasverus said:
Well there is the fact that they shot a scene in WW about taking the photo that appeared in BvS which wasn't originally planned. Who knows.
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It's literally one of the biggest knocks on DC is that they are director friendly which means no Kevin Feige (yet). Beyond working together (making sure stuff lines up or if Wan needs something in JL), Wan and Ayer control their movies. Now this might be different post BvS though...

Godzilla's Left Toe said:
Seriously how can anybody have any faith in the DCEU
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Because you aren't pinning your hopes on one person or brain trust. Snyder's not going around doing every film and he's gone on record to state these films are sandboxes which lure directors because the directors can put their own stamp on things.
 
a916 said:
It's literally one of the biggest knocks on DC is that they are director friendly which means no Kevin Feige (yet). Beyond working together (making sure stuff lines up or if Wan needs something in JL), Wan and Ayer control their movies. Now this might be different post BvS though...
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You bet things changed.
 
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