Frozenprince
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20 something white college kids with beards?
AP: Clinton clinches Democratic Nomination
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20 something white college kids with beards?
Tal Shiar Agent
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Don't forget the part where all of the players on the other team are arrested for jaywalking.
Deluded?
Was the system rigged in Obama's favor in 2008?
It's possible the team gets indicted after the fact for filling the football with emails.
White?
GoldenEye 007
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Talk about living in an alternate reality. Some were reasonable. But the "blackout" girl? Yeesh.
Art major?
plagiarize
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Those of us who followed 2008 know that when Clinton was on the other side of this that Obama was called the presumptive nominee even though Supers hadn't voted and put him over the top yet.
It's hard to see things working the same way for Sanders now as they did for Clinton in 2008 and thinking there's some pro Clinton bias in the system.
I agree AP should have waited till tomorrow but no one "doesn't count" super delegates until they are "locked in". Even now Bernie's delegate total includes the small number of super delegates who have endorsed him.
legacyzero
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Nope. SDs dont vote till July. Mainstream media continues to liquid shit the bed with inaccuracies.
Holy shit at that hippie chick getting emotional about how the reporter is on some script and how the Internet and social media has all the polls dude
thestopsign
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YASS QUEEN!!!
OK just had to get that out of my system.
OK just had to get that out of my system.
whyamihere
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Supers have not switched this election except one that's gone from Sanders to Clinton, and the fact that there's a swell of them coming out now and others have not switched besides Bernie's pitch tells you what you need to know.
Supers telling a news org how they'll vote is an act in itself.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
AP called the nomination for Obama June 3rd, 2008, on the basis of his superdelegates. Press called the nomination for Kerry in 2004 when Edwards dropped out, 1000 delegates before he had enough to win. Bookies paid out on Obama's win over McCain several days before the election. It's OK, Megyn Kelly doesn't need to visit the decision desk to assuage Karl Rove's anxiety.
REMINDER
They will do it as they have always done it. Count the Supers and call the nominee when it becomes clear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-rbr0MVtLM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYgP78iKKGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81hCFwsnfJI
Despite what Bernies campaign would have you believe. Its always been done this way. It was never going to be handled differently just because it hurts Bernies feelings. This is how the elections work and have worked and will continue to work.
Frozenprince
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The circle jerk is going into a full tailspin now.
Gotta be painful for them. Denial is never east to face.
captmcblack
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Wish this didn't happen until tomorrow...now the most cynical cynics can say that this wasn't legit.
Hopefully, California/New Jersey and the rest still comes out in full to vote tomorrow how they would've before today's announcement.
Hopefully, California/New Jersey and the rest still comes out in full to vote tomorrow how they would've before today's announcement.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Do you always expect the entire world to change how things are done to placate your desires?
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MeisaMcCaffrey
She's not perfect but after Biden she's the best person to lead America. Congrats to Hillary! Massive achievement.
I see Bernie's still going on about pledged delegates and the media smh. Well, if you want to play the convention game, be my guest. It will not help one bit. You are three million votes behind, son.
I will say though, losing Cali will be a little embarrassing for Hillary. I hope she wins.
I see Bernie's still going on about pledged delegates and the media smh. Well, if you want to play the convention game, be my guest. It will not help one bit. You are three million votes behind, son.
I will say though, losing Cali will be a little embarrassing for Hillary. I hope she wins.
whyamihere
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Also, she's not the nominee until she wins the nomination at the convention. Until then, we call her the presumptive nominee.
SynthFetish
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I said it "looks like" not that it is, I do not buy into the theory that it is actually rigged.
And I don't recall the exact reporting for Obama so I don't have an opnion on that. ( I was dealing with pretty bad marriage at that time so my memory of his nomination is a fuzz of drugs, booze and fighting)
EDIT: just a follow up, our nomination process is stupid, archaic and needs to change. The opinions of all people should be counted before any final choice is made. Things like super delegates discredit the voices of many people.
also, I realized I'm arguing politics on the Internet, I'm going to just stop now as I'd rather play Xenoblade then follow this thread for the next 30 pages
GoldenEye 007
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And nobody ever waits to count super delegates until the convention. You don't know what you're talking about.
Frozenprince
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Yep. Though things like this do help to show how young a lot of people are in relation to 08' and 12'.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
This is my guess. Baby's first election, so cute.
I posted the videos above. Have a look.
Unknown Soldier
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Fuck it
HP_Wuvcraft
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Oh, please.
Bam Bam Baklava
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I guess there's no such thing as a President-elect either until the electors cast their vote in December. Someone should have told McCain and Romney so they could throw a hissy fit for a couple weeks.
Maybe that's an argument Trump will use when he loses in November.
Maybe that's an argument Trump will use when he loses in November.
Frozenprince
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I can only imagine how fucking obnoxious I would be if this was my first election.
Being able to stump for Obama twice really was a privilege.
God we need better Poli Sci education in this country.
I do wonder if r/politics is going to ease up on all the "Hillary is the devil" stuff now that Bernie's toast.
legacyzero
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Why? That's just fun to watch LOL. That was so entertaining.
I mostly saw young women.
balladofwindfishes
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After they made the sticky they deleted all the other ones. They do that to prevent spam, although it's only selectively enforced, coincidentally on Hillary news. Bernie news can get 10 different news sources on the front page saying exactly the same thing.
Frozenprince
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Fifty bucks says they go all in on Stein and try to "start the revolution" again.
Alright I gotta ask.
How many colors were in these young women's hair?
Doesn't everybody vote in July? Hence presumptive. This is a really silly distinction to make; candidates have always been called with supers included.
SliceSabre
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Wonder if the media will finally get around to ignoring Bernie instead of pretending like he' still in it.
Yeah at a certain point the extra hoops she's being made to jump through are a bit...troubling.
If you look at the scroll in the first video Hillary was actually winning the popular vote when they called it for Obama
Inaccuracies? This is how the system has always worked. It's not the media's fault that some people are new to this.
The race has ALWAYS been called when a candidate reaches the required number of delegates+superdelegates. Sure, supers can change their mind, but it's rare, and it's usually announced. When a super announces their support, unless they later publicly rescind that support their vote is pretty much guaranteed.
This is EXACTLY how Obama was announced the presumptive nominee in '08.
plagiarize
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And look, anyone still in denial before this announcement is going to remain in denial after it. It's still feasible that Bernie can win so they will hope. They will accuse the media of bias. They will call the system rigged even though the system is the only ly thing that let's him argue he still has a chance right now.
I do believe he'll concede shortly after Clinton has won a majority of the pledged delegates, but when neither candidate wants it called yet I do think it's jumping the gun a bit.
All this will be irrelevant tomorrow night though.
I do believe he'll concede shortly after Clinton has won a majority of the pledged delegates, but when neither candidate wants it called yet I do think it's jumping the gun a bit.
All this will be irrelevant tomorrow night though.
Haha okay fair enough I didn't see that. I have routinely seen 10x of the same sanders stories on the fp, so I figured that wasn't a rule.
I was trying to find out when the AP called it for 2008, and it looks like it was in the afternoon on the day of the CA (and other states) primary. You really think calling it a day before the primary is acceptable?
For what it's worth, I don't think it should've been called that early in 2008 on the basis of SDs, and calling it even earlier this election cycle in the midst of a tightening CA race is questionable IMO.
OneEightZero
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Under inflated, of course. ^_^
GoldenEye 007
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Votes weren't even certified until January actually. Obama wasn't even president elect until January 2009. Should have kept that campaign up.
It's Gamer Gate (politics edition)
Did you not understand the meaning of me saying 'i can see how he feels that's not a luxury he enjoys?' It was me eluding to him being dead and grasping for dear life to keep this last (and only) chance alive.
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