yeah, they are overly cautious like I said in another post. It shouldn't be much time at all now, if they are insisting on it. Not to mention the fact that all blood is taken just by donations and not paid. This decreases the chance that someone has a disease by a lot. It's really strange how they are handling it, especially with how it is with other bloodborne pathogens being drastically reduced with the same measures. It will probably be completely removed at some point soon in the future. They need the blood, and there is a large group of people who want to give who cannot.
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yeah, they are overly cautious like I said in another post. It shouldn't be much time at all now, if they are insisting on it. Not to mention the fact that all blood is taken just by donations and not paid. This decreases the chance that someone has a disease by a lot. It's really strange how they are handling it, especially with how it is with other bloodborne pathogens being drastically reduced with the same measures. It will probably be completely removed at some point soon in the future. They need the blood, and there is a large group of people who want to give who cannot.
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The only posts making the top about the shooting are from the_donald because all the news threads and being locked, censored and removed
Yeah, that's never going to happen.
Nope, cause brown and funny names
Cindi Mayweather
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Holy fuck, we need to make Congress blue. Lives depend on this.
You mean they both got ahold of guns somehow regardless of local laws and carried out a terrorist attack because of their extremist ideology? Yet we shouldn't talk about their ideology.
InfiniteBento
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Access to weapons of high caliber should not be so fucking easy in this country. You should not be able to go to Wal-Mart to buy guns. You should not be able to purchase weapons while consumed by mental illness either.
This should not be a fucking debate anymore. Flat out.
This should not be a fucking debate anymore. Flat out.
BlastProcessing
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I can't really refute his facts because there aren't any right now. This whole thing is still in the fog of war. Anybody who can throw out a bunch of bullet pointed facts on a message board right now is either trolling or is pushing a gross agenda. I was giving the poster credit when I assumed it was a joke post.
Has that been proven?
1.21Gigawatts
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https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/742016657044934660
This guys twitter is keeping me sane right now. Sad but sane. Knowing that at least some people are fighting for the right things.
This guys twitter is keeping me sane right now. Sad but sane. Knowing that at least some people are fighting for the right things.
Booker Dewitt
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Talking to my mom about the blood donation, none of my family in Orlando has the blood types needed.
Edit:she seems broken up about not being able to help.
Edit:she seems broken up about not being able to help.
Arrogant Bastard
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So him having a high capacity magazine AR-15 isn't even part of the problem? What do you want us to do about radical Islam? Honestly, that isn't a problem that you are going to get rid of. We can at least do something about the gun issue.
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RPGCrazied
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It should though. Have a buyback program, anything to reduce the amount of guns in this country.
At the very least ban fucking assault weapons, they are only for kill people in no time. Also, reduce clip sizes on all guns. At the very least.
I'm still am for an aright ban of all of them.
clockworkinyou
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OK original post was directed ot that idiot that said he hope's gun owners die.
Seriously though - ATF is still clearing the club?
Seriously though - ATF is still clearing the club?
Dubbedinenglish
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Sad thing is we have a very robust gun regulation system for silencers and automatic weapons. We need to extend it downwards to regulate the industry. An outright ban ignores that it is a billion dollar industry with millions of people who rely on guns as a living. We need better regulations.
jack_package_200
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Goddamn right we do along with turning the supreme court blue as well.
AntraxSuicide
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Straight from govt watchlists, and apparently this guy was on one.
The Artisan
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#Perpetrator
where did you see me say that?
there has to be something that can be done to rid them from the face of the earth.
therealist
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Until people can convince others that the 2nd Amendment is not a fundamental right, nothing is ever going to change. Gun owners view the right to bear arms no different from the right to freedom and the right to privacy. Once that is made clear it's very hard to pass legislation that would limit those rights, just as people here get up in arms about their right to privacy being stripped.
True but you don't even need a buyback program. If you have laws allowing gun manufactures to be sued by people directly affected by gun violence it will drive prices up to the point where either 'enthusiasts and collectors' can purchase them and potential criminals will probably end up selling theirs instead of resorting to crime.
Law enforcement sources told CBS News the gunman has been identified as Omar Mateen, 29, a U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie. Mateen was born to Afghan parents. CBS News reports Mateen has no apparent criminal history
He's a citizen. This isn't some foreign guy coming over to plot out some attack. Gun control is very much a part of the discussion.
He's a citizen. This isn't some foreign guy coming over to plot out some attack. Gun control is very much a part of the discussion.
JetBlackPanda
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I'm not saying that at all but you can't compare foreign trained fighters to a 28 year old that purchased an AR legally. one team had to smuggle them one has to swipe his visa.
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Jesus fuck dude AR-15 is an Assault Rifle
It's a M16 that's been nerfed from automatic to singular shot
I just finished watching Real Sports on HBO and they had this as one segment
The guy WHO FUCKING created the M16, says the AR-15 is exactly the same gun, only small changes
Before you throw out this bullshit that its a sporting rifle, that it doesn't do damage like the M-16, give me a fucking break, you can buy an attachment for roughly a few hundred bucks and guess what, now its fully automatic
Stop using the "When Legend becomes Fact, Print the Legend" dialogue to get your point across
I wish I could link to the segment on Real Sports on HBO with the AR-15
You gun nuts will do anything to protect your stupid weapons by changing the dialogue or wording
RIP to all those souls who did nothing wrong
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People are and have been talking about both.
Are guns and gun policy not a component in this shooting?
Get out of here with the conversation policing. If you have something of value to add, add it.
everyday math
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I'm happy to see End gun violence is trending.
Arrogant Bastard
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NEW from NBCs @PeteWilliamsNBC: Gunman had high-capacity magazines. All information at this time indicates weapons were legally obtained.
There isn't, you aren't getting rid of radical extremism.
How is that not common sense? How is it not unanimous to pass a bill to prevent supposed terrorists from buying guns?
BlastProcessing
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1. A government can regulate one of those things.
2. At this point we don't 100% know what ideology drove this. We do 100% know that guns were involved.
oneils
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The fbi has a screening centre that documents potential terrorists: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/nsb/tsc
shanafan
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And our grandparents lived through a World War, the Holocaust and the Vietnam War. Unfortunately, these events will never stop.
Square2015
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What can be said about Islam at this point?
DragonGirl
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To those bringing up the plane thing. Perhaps if everyone could easily buy a plane and people intentionally flying them into buildings was a weekly occurrence, you'd have an argument. Same for cars. If people intentionally used their cars to kill mass numbers of people on a regular basis, you'd have an argument to make. Yes, the person is the killer, but how many would he have been able to take out with a knife? Killers of many people are so successful in this country because the weapon that makes it possible is easy to possess and the government has been so hamstrung by gun lobbyists they can't even enforce most of the laws designed to control ownership.
Yes, Virginia, we have a gun problem.
Yes, Virginia, we have a gun problem.
victreeb3l
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Horrible and tragic. Just horrible.
Yeah but pretty soon 3d printing will allow people to make their own guns. People are already making some, they can't handle sustained fire right now but eventually they will.
I don't know what the future will hold.
everyday math
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Uh huh I think you need to rethink a little bit about what you just wrote.
JetBlackPanda
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Come on man it's a cocktail of issues.
7DollarHagane
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With an illegal one instead. How does this guy who was being investigated by the fbi allowed a concealed carry and allowed to buy guns? Seems like a huge fuck up on someone's part but also the guy didn't really show any signs of being capable of this either so who knows. Maybe he got caught up in extremist propaganda and just didn't show signs of it.
People never talk about how much of extremist Muslim culture is violently anti-gay. Some Christians in the US might not want to cater your event if you're gay but in Pakistan some muslims would stone you to death for it.
Mateens father Mir Seddique told reporters that his son had anti-gay leanings and the shooting doesnt have anything to do with religion.
Seddique told NBC News that his son got angry when he saw two men kissing in Miami a couple of months ago and thinks that may be related to the shooting."
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/...club-shooting/
From a post on here. Can't anyone edit wiki?
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