Gator drags child into water near Disney's Grand Floridian

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Bad_Boy

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Because if it has a history of killing a human, it might do it again. They're not super smart. Good hunters, but it has a known bad habit of going after people and associating that with a meal. It isn't worth the risk. Gator population in Florida is perfectly fine.
...so....
and how the hell are they going to find out which gator it was specifically.
 
Horrible.

This is why I used to get nervous when my kid was even walking along the boat dock of our canal. I just imagine some big hungry gator coming up and getting him.

Now he swims in the lake. 8 years old in the middle of a lake that we've seen a dozen or more gators on.

I sometimes look at my inlaws and my wife and go "are you out of your fucking mind?" but sit and just watch him...just watch him and not have fun because I'm fucking terrified he's going to be pulled under.
Time for a divorce. Take the kid. Move out of Florida.
 

KazenY2J

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The live stream said how the child was male, 2 years old, playing with the family at the beach. The child was grabbed from behind and the parents both tried to go into the water to rescue him. Its been 3 or 4 hours since and they have over 50 teams members out looking for the child while combing through the lake.
That's horrible.
 

bionic77

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That is really sad.

We saw a small 3 footer at the Coronado resort. We told the staff and they said they were going to relocate it. The one we saw was obviously being fed because he would just camp out near where people were and stare at you (in a way that it was easy to see him).
 

seanoff

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Horrible.

This is why I used to get nervous when my kid was even walking along the boat dock of our canal. I just imagine some big hungry gator coming up and getting him.

Now he swims in the lake. 8 years old in the middle of a lake that we've seen a dozen or more gators on.

I sometimes look at my inlaws and my wife and go "are you out of your fucking mind?" but sit and just watch him...just watch him and not have fun because I'm fucking terrified he's going to be pulled under.

son, time to man up.

You're his father. sometimes you have to be unpopular.

No swimming in that lake, ever. also tell your wife and her parents. that he is not to go into that water ever. and that there are consequences if they let him

I live in a salt water crocodile infested area. only fools go into the water here.
 

stressboy

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As a parent with a 2 year old boy.. this is terrifying. Going to give my little one a big hug when I get home in the morning.
 

Acidote

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Horrible.

This is why I used to get nervous when my kid was even walking along the boat dock of our canal. I just imagine some big hungry gator coming up and getting him.

Now he swims in the lake. 8 years old in the middle of a lake that we've seen a dozen or more gators on.

I sometimes look at my inlaws and my wife and go "are you out of your fucking mind?" but sit and just watch him...just watch him and not have fun because I'm fucking terrified he's going to be pulled under.

What the fuck, man. What the fuck.

Send the sad link on the OP to them and just tell them outright "the kid doesn't swim in the lake anymore". Not a question, not a petition. He's not their son, it's yours and your wife's.
 

Pepboy

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How the hell does a 2 year old get dragged away?! There has to be someone watching him that's horrific.

Gators can be fast. I imagine it drew him underwater and then no one could spot it. The article just put it in a nice way, it would be a miracle if the child was still alive.
 
son, time to man up.

You're his father. sometimes you have to be unpopular.

No swimming in that lake, ever. also tell your wife and her parents. that he is not to go into that water ever. and that there are consequences if they let him

I live in a salt water crocodile infested area. only fools go into the water here.
Aren't salterwater crocodiles insanely dangerous, though? Alligators are postively docile in comparison to saltwater and nile crocs, not to mention a lot smaller. I wouldn't feel comfortable letting a small child swim in alligator-infested waters, but based on the animal's behavior and the relative low number of attacks and fatalities, I can understand why so many do it.
 

Goodlife

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This is terrible. My first inclination was to blame the parents and question why the child was so close to the shore, but based on the new reports, he was with his father the entire time. This really was just a horrific accident and an unusually aggressive/bold alligator.
Must admit, I find it truly bizarre that people's first reactions in this thread are to blame the parents....

I'm guessing those people aren't parents so don't realise 2 year olds do, occasionally, run away etc even if you are watching them closely
 

Surface of Me

I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Must admit, I find it truly bizarre that people's first reactions in this thread are to blame the parents....

I'm guessing those people aren't parents so don't realise 2 year olds do, occasionally, run away etc even if you are watching them closely

Double combo or people not being oatents and people not knowing gators are ambush predators.

It sucks, but they gotta kill the gator now. It will think it can go back to Disney World to get food now.
 

breakfuss

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And a grim reminder that we're all just part of the circle of life. This is just nature. We like to think of ourselves as above it or separate when in reality we're not.
 

nasax

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Fuck man, this is just so horrible. Thoughts and prayers to the family. I just wouldn't be able to function as an adult anymore if I was the father of that child. There's so much going through my mind about all of this, that I just can't comprehend. I know what happened but what the parents must be feeling... fuck! It's like a living nightmare.
 

breakfuss

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Fuck man, this is just so horrible. Thoughts and prayers to the family. I just wouldn't be able to function as an adult anymore if I was the father of that child. There's so much going through my mind about all of this, that I just can't comprehend. I know what happened but what the parents must be feeling... fuck! It's like a living nightmare.

Watch Rabbit Hole with Nicole Kidman. Or In The Bedroom with Sissy Spacek. Fiction but they give such a heart wrenching portrayal of what it's like to lose a child. I couldn't imagine.
 
I keep thinking about this guy and the fact that he has two more kids, he is going to have to find a way through this somehow for their sake...

It's keeping me up tonight.
 

Rudelord

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Aren't salterwater crocodiles insanely dangerous, though? Alligators are postively docile in comparison to saltwater and nile crocs, not to mention a lot smaller. I wouldn't feel comfortable letting a small child swim in alligator-infested waters, but based on the animal's behavior and the relative low number of attacks and fatalities, I can understand why so many do it.

Docile is not quite the word I'd look for. It's just on average we're not really what they're after in a meal, at least an adult sized human.

Usually eat fish and water fowl.
 

sprsk

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God I can't even imagine how the parents feel and the pain that poor child went through. As a father of two this just hits hard. What a gruesome way to lose a child.
 

Waldini

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Fuck.

The poor kid.

Being a father of two (son of 2,5 years and daughter of 13 months) this just horrifies me. Seeing your own child being dragged into a lake and never to be seen again is ... goddamn.

I know the alligator can't help itself ... but fuck...
 

mclem

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At one of the hotels (the most expensive one) on the property.

I wonder what 'near Grand Floridian' means, given they didn't actually say it was on the grounds. I mention that because just NW of the Grand Floridian is an area with heavy woods and water that's (IIRC) not meant to be public-accessible.

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It's really worrying if that's on the grounds, given the existence of, say, the Fort Wilderness Campground.


Edit: Ah, missed the 'at the beach' thing.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
There's a lake down the street from me that's full of alligators, now I'm thinking that's not as cool as I once believed.
 
I live in Orlando and have been to Disney likely over 200 times and had no idea there were gators. I take that ferry a lot and don't recall ever seeing even fish in there. Just birds.

It's a man made lake and i assume Disney must remove gators when they find them but miss some of them. There aren't really signs for gators, though it says don't swim. You can rent tiny boats for two people and go drive around the water.

Yeah, my wife and I drove one of those boats around. They're pretty small and sit low on the water; a gator could easily get in one.
 
And a grim reminder that we're all just part of the circle of life. This is just nature. We like to think of ourselves as above it or separate when in reality we're not.

DIsney jokes at this time? You sick puppy. Next you'll be saying they should have yelled at the gator to let it go.
 

andthebeatgoeson

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because they allowed the kid to be in the water when there were a million signs posted around saying not to enter the water.
Yet i still wonder why have a beach with a very dangerous animal. Sometimes, a sign isn't enough.

Place very tempting object with 500 signs and claim immunity. Have a movie night with kids next to the beach and claim immunity. Have parents exhausted from walking miles in the Florida heat, then play a movie and expect the parents to be on guard for the whole movie and claim immunity.

Obviously, Disney doesn't claim immunity but that's what you are giving them. What part of 'man-made beach next to alligator infested waters' makes any sense? It's arrogant beyond any normal thought.

The only thought that could lead a person there is money. Make more money, charge more fees, so people can have more experiences.
 

chocoedd

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That man-made beach should never have existed. Create a beach beside a body of water in a amusement park, people outside Florida would assume the water would be somewhat safe enough to play near it although there are signs "No Swimming!".

Maybe I can understand if the signs were more deliberate and scary. "Warning! Do not walk/play near the water. Dangerous alligators." But then again, why built a man-made beach beside a lake in an area famous for gators?
 
Kid probably lasted all of a minute, tops. More likely: gator jaw snap killed him.

I want to know what the fuck Disney was thinking holding an event like this. We have fencing up for a reason around lakes, ponds, and creeks (I should know, there's like 10000 of them here). Did they have to hop a fence, or did they just not have a fence?

Disney is such a cancer on this state.
 

p2535748

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NPR is saying they were wading in the water and no swimming signs had been posted.

Said it was the Seven Seas lagoon? That on the Disney property?

People ignore those signs all the time. I think most people think it's about potential bacteria in the water, not alligators.

And yeah, the Seven Seas Lagoon is what they call the big body of water next to the Magic Kingdom.
 
I'm very surprised people didn't know there were alligators in the water at Disney World. At the Coronado Springs resort you can see them walking around. The staff usually lets them stay until they get a certain size then they are relocated. It's Central Florida, there is no way they could keep gators out of the water.

There is a man made beach at the boardwalk area which hosts movie nights as well. There are plenty of signs there saying to stay out of the water. After looking in it from the dock and seeing the amount of fish and seaweed in it I'd bet a gator has been in there too.
 

U2NUMB

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WTF... I am bringing my family to Disney next week and we have a 3 year old. Just horrible.. can not imagine the hell those parents are going through.
 

MisterR

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So let me get this straight...

They have a beach, where people swim, in gator-infested waters...?

Not talking about the open ocean - talking about a lagoon. Much more alligator friendly.


And that's normal? And the hotel or whatever sponsors movies at night on that beach?

Nobody ever thought a gator might walk up on the beach and grab a kid?

I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble understanding why this is even legal, much less advertised??

Why don't your read some of the many posts in this thread describing the set up. You seem out of your element.
 
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