Honestly I'd put a lot more people on developing a decent account system for a change. The NX could be a spec monster for all I care, but if Nintendo's account system isn't like PSN or XBLA - in the sense that you can sell ofo your console for whatever reason, log off your account, buy a new console a few months later, log in again and redownload all games you've previously purchased without a stupid process of calling Nintendo - they're already trailing in my book.
You are in charge of designing the NX and launching it
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Freeman
Banned
Oh, sorry. 299 special price. Just for you.
Pre-ordered. When does it release?
The NX would be a single package handheld docking system with a pro style controller.
Handheld on Docking Console
Included Pro Controller
The raw materials of the PlayStation Vita were calculated at $160 in 2012. We should be able to get twice the power minimum at that cost now in the handheld unit. This would place the system just above the Wii U in power.
The handheld would contain the CPU, GPU and 128GB Flash Drive for transferring games to and from the dock HDD. The docking system would contain a 500GB HDD and Blu-Ray Drive. Both units would have a card slot.
The system would launch at $249 -$299 depending on final cost.
Launch games
Zelda
Mario Kart
Metroid
Skyrim Remastered
Minecraft
GTA V
Yooka-Laylee
Splatoon: Reloaded
Mario Maker Advanced
The system is Backwards compatible with Wii U and Wii. Previous eShop purchases carry over.
Handheld on Docking Console
Included Pro Controller
The raw materials of the PlayStation Vita were calculated at $160 in 2012. We should be able to get twice the power minimum at that cost now in the handheld unit. This would place the system just above the Wii U in power.
The handheld would contain the CPU, GPU and 128GB Flash Drive for transferring games to and from the dock HDD. The docking system would contain a 500GB HDD and Blu-Ray Drive. Both units would have a card slot.
The system would launch at $249 -$299 depending on final cost.
Launch games
Zelda
Mario Kart
Metroid
Skyrim Remastered
Minecraft
GTA V
Yooka-Laylee
Splatoon: Reloaded
Mario Maker Advanced
The system is Backwards compatible with Wii U and Wii. Previous eShop purchases carry over.
This is exactly what I want combined with access to their entire back catalog.
Freeman
Banned
Perfect, the launch game linup needs to be better tho. Would it have any sort of retro?The NX would be a single package handheld docking system with a pro style controller.
Handheld on Docking Console
Included Pro Controller
The raw materials of the PlayStation Vita were calculated at $160 in 2012. We should be able to get twice the power minimum at that cost now in the handheld unit. This would place the system just above the Wii U in power.
The handheld would contain the CPU, GPU and 128GB Flash Drive for transferring games to and from the dock HDD. The docking system would contain a 500GB HDD and Blu-Ray Drive. Both units would have a card slot.
The system would launch at $249 -$299 depending on final cost.
Launch games
Zelda
Mario Kart
Metroid
Skyrim Remastered
Minecraft
GTA V
Yooka-Laylee
Splatoon: Reloaded
Mario Maker Advanced
Fully BC...I'll add that
OrbitalBeard
Member
I like this. Good stuff.
March 13, 2017. 13 is a lucky number.
Freeman
Banned
Pretty good, would there be a version where its also a phone?
Works for me.
rokkerkory
Member
299 starting and 399 highest model
PS4.25k power
plays all gc, wii and wii u games
free online mp, no friend code crap
Launches with SM packed in
PS4.25k power
plays all gc, wii and wii u games
free online mp, no friend code crap
Launches with SM packed in
flaxknuckles
Member
$4 hunnerd dollars
ps4 neo specs
3d massive open-level Metroid with 3rd and 1st person perspective holiday 2017
Paper Mario 3 at launch
Super Mario 64 sequel early 2018
3 new AAA Ips one of which at launch
throw the middle finger up at third-parties and launch a new first-party game every three months with cycling episodic and smaller games every month
NintendoOS, Linux distro and game client compatible with Ubuntu with all Nintendo games so I don't have to buy the damn console.
ps4 neo specs
3d massive open-level Metroid with 3rd and 1st person perspective holiday 2017
Paper Mario 3 at launch
Super Mario 64 sequel early 2018
3 new AAA Ips one of which at launch
throw the middle finger up at third-parties and launch a new first-party game every three months with cycling episodic and smaller games every month
NintendoOS, Linux distro and game client compatible with Ubuntu with all Nintendo games so I don't have to buy the damn console.
Freeman
Banned
Day 1.
That is a pretty good way to guarantee third party support.
I don't know. I think the most important thing is to make the case for the handheld against cell phones in Japan and/or to make the case for the home console as a second console in the west. The thing is, a Nintendo console is very much in demand as far as I am concerned and I am not an engineer on the cutting edge of technology so I have no idea as to how to accomplish these things. Price, launch year momentum, gimmick, messaging, and the market environment will all be tremendously important.
So hopeful speculation:
As to hardware: My 'realistic' hope, which is mostly backwards looking but also based on GAF speculation groupthink, is that it will be a power efficient home console with parts that accomplish PS4/XBOne ballpark results in a cooler (temperature), more modern way. There will be some idiosyncrasies, partly due to cross compatibility with a handheld console (say, ARM vs x86) and partly due to Nintendo (say, strange RAM), but nothing too exotic to prevent ports (and if it moves decent numbers in the west, it'll get the biggest EA/Acti/Ubi games again). It will not have backwards compatibility, but key Wii U games with a far off sequel will be ported to it a la BotW and it will have virtual console support through to at least GCN (as well as Wii, depending on the gimmick). I don't know how expensive this sounds so far, but I imagine Nintendo is shooting for something between $199 and $299.
As to cross-compatibility: the machine will use 'cartridges' and share most of its games with a handheld unit either launched concurrently or within the first year, year and a half of the home units launch (I'm hoping it comes out sooner rather than later--especially in Japan). Retail games will be priced between, say, $19.99 and $59.99 depending on size and scope of development instead of system. I'm assuming that there will be no mandate that all games for the home console must also work on the handheld, but every retail game that works on the handheld will work on the home console (perhaps without large performance bonuses though, like a Super Gameboy). Many of the games will be at previously 'handheld' pricing and be lower budget Nintendo and Japanese third party games. Nintendo will continue its current push towards indie content for its eShop and at least its own 'phone' games will be available on the handheld, which will have some sort of touch control capability. Perhaps the home controller will too. The VC will, perhaps, be more limited on the handheld, maybe only getting up to N64. Most importantly, eShop games that support both consoles will be crossbuy, like the cartridges. The VC will, however, be once again a fresh start from the Wii U and 3DS but will finally be forward compatible and will have crossbuy where applicable.
As to early software: The NX will launch with BotW, Smash NX, Pikmin 4, and Luigi's Mansion NX as the largest Nintendo offerings in the launch weeks. Retro's game will come either summer 2017 or close out the year in Feb/Mar/April 2018. Mario NX will be the holiday game for 2017. Splatoon 2 and MK9 will be out by Mar 2019. NX will see DQ X and XI (the PS4 version) and FFXV as well as the support 3DS received, most notably Monster Hunter. Nintendo will try and keep Level 5 on board despite the latter's increasing pivot to mobile; they will get the bigger games as mobile/NX releases.
As to gimmick: ?????? Will there be one? Will Motion controls return? This is perhaps the biggest thing that could potentially tank the system by not allowing for decent specs or low cost and it could also be what sells the system in a Wii like situation. And I have no idea what to even hope Nintendo will do in this regard.
So hopeful speculation:
As to hardware: My 'realistic' hope, which is mostly backwards looking but also based on GAF speculation groupthink, is that it will be a power efficient home console with parts that accomplish PS4/XBOne ballpark results in a cooler (temperature), more modern way. There will be some idiosyncrasies, partly due to cross compatibility with a handheld console (say, ARM vs x86) and partly due to Nintendo (say, strange RAM), but nothing too exotic to prevent ports (and if it moves decent numbers in the west, it'll get the biggest EA/Acti/Ubi games again). It will not have backwards compatibility, but key Wii U games with a far off sequel will be ported to it a la BotW and it will have virtual console support through to at least GCN (as well as Wii, depending on the gimmick). I don't know how expensive this sounds so far, but I imagine Nintendo is shooting for something between $199 and $299.
As to cross-compatibility: the machine will use 'cartridges' and share most of its games with a handheld unit either launched concurrently or within the first year, year and a half of the home units launch (I'm hoping it comes out sooner rather than later--especially in Japan). Retail games will be priced between, say, $19.99 and $59.99 depending on size and scope of development instead of system. I'm assuming that there will be no mandate that all games for the home console must also work on the handheld, but every retail game that works on the handheld will work on the home console (perhaps without large performance bonuses though, like a Super Gameboy). Many of the games will be at previously 'handheld' pricing and be lower budget Nintendo and Japanese third party games. Nintendo will continue its current push towards indie content for its eShop and at least its own 'phone' games will be available on the handheld, which will have some sort of touch control capability. Perhaps the home controller will too. The VC will, perhaps, be more limited on the handheld, maybe only getting up to N64. Most importantly, eShop games that support both consoles will be crossbuy, like the cartridges. The VC will, however, be once again a fresh start from the Wii U and 3DS but will finally be forward compatible and will have crossbuy where applicable.
As to early software: The NX will launch with BotW, Smash NX, Pikmin 4, and Luigi's Mansion NX as the largest Nintendo offerings in the launch weeks. Retro's game will come either summer 2017 or close out the year in Feb/Mar/April 2018. Mario NX will be the holiday game for 2017. Splatoon 2 and MK9 will be out by Mar 2019. NX will see DQ X and XI (the PS4 version) and FFXV as well as the support 3DS received, most notably Monster Hunter. Nintendo will try and keep Level 5 on board despite the latter's increasing pivot to mobile; they will get the bigger games as mobile/NX releases.
As to gimmick: ?????? Will there be one? Will Motion controls return? This is perhaps the biggest thing that could potentially tank the system by not allowing for decent specs or low cost and it could also be what sells the system in a Wii like situation. And I have no idea what to even hope Nintendo will do in this regard.
Dreamwriter
Member
In my opinion, Nintendo's biggest problem lately is not launching their systems with their big franchises. They need to get big sales as quickly as possible to get the third party support, and that's how to do it. 3DS has shown that: it launched with no big Nintendo franchises, and got so few sales most third parties canceled their games. Then there was a price drop, and sales were still horrible. Then they released Mario Kart 7 and Mario 3D Land, and suddenly sales took off, and then third parties came flooding in.
So I would launch NX with a Zelda game (good job Nintendo!) and at least two other big Nintendo franchises - 3D Mario, Metroid, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, franchises of that caliber. And not spinoffs but full franchise titles. And preferably one or two of their smaller ones as well, like F-Zero or Donkey Kong Country.
If Nintendo does that, they will get massive sales to start, regardless of the console's special features. And that will attract third party developers.
So I would launch NX with a Zelda game (good job Nintendo!) and at least two other big Nintendo franchises - 3D Mario, Metroid, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, franchises of that caliber. And not spinoffs but full franchise titles. And preferably one or two of their smaller ones as well, like F-Zero or Donkey Kong Country.
If Nintendo does that, they will get massive sales to start, regardless of the console's special features. And that will attract third party developers.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Just a normal fucking console. As powerful as you can make it for $350, get the third party support, and just pump out exclusives.
I don't see the point in having higher specs like the Neo when you're not expecting 3rd party content.
Nintendo's dev teams don't really specialize in high end technology. All it would do is increase dev time for their titles. Makes more sense to focus on their own console+handheld ecosystem and not distance the console too far from the handheld IMO.
Nintendo's dev teams don't really specialize in high end technology. All it would do is increase dev time for their titles. Makes more sense to focus on their own console+handheld ecosystem and not distance the console too far from the handheld IMO.
$129
Custom ARM chipset (maybe Tegra-based)
Standard controller
Android TV-based OS with 4k video output, Netflix etc.
Nintendo Store also launches on certified devices from other manufacturers
Launch with Zelda, Metroid, and select Wii U titles (Super Mario 3D World, Splatoon, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros.) seeing most people didn't play them first time around anyway.
Custom ARM chipset (maybe Tegra-based)
Standard controller
Android TV-based OS with 4k video output, Netflix etc.
Nintendo Store also launches on certified devices from other manufacturers
Launch with Zelda, Metroid, and select Wii U titles (Super Mario 3D World, Splatoon, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros.) seeing most people didn't play them first time around anyway.
Freeman
Banned
If its just like the Neo with a common architecture wouldn't it get ports?
Graphics Horse
Member
Drat.
Well, I've already said what I think before, chunky controller with a Tegra based system inside, optional detachable mini tablet screen unit. Stream to TVs or 3rd party mobile displays if you prefer.
HeisenbergLannister
Member
Launches with Wave RaciNXtreme (or something as stupid), all courses from 64 and Blue Storm remade in HD, plus new courses and online play.
frap
Neo Member
Let's just read that and let that sink. Yes, yes, that is excellent.
Proelite
Member
$199 Handheld with Pascal Tegra
4 core CPU at 2.0ghz
960 x 540 screen
16mb Esram, 2 cluster Pascal GPU at 400mhz, 256 gigaflops
6GB LPDDR4 34 GB/S
5W TDP
$299 Console
8 core CPU at 2.0 ghz
64 mb esram, 4 cluster Pascal GPU at 1000mhz, 1.2 teraflop.
12GB LPPDR4 ram at 50 GB/S.
40W TDP
4 core CPU at 2.0ghz
960 x 540 screen
16mb Esram, 2 cluster Pascal GPU at 400mhz, 256 gigaflops
6GB LPDDR4 34 GB/S
5W TDP
$299 Console
8 core CPU at 2.0 ghz
64 mb esram, 4 cluster Pascal GPU at 1000mhz, 1.2 teraflop.
12GB LPPDR4 ram at 50 GB/S.
40W TDP
tearsintherain
Member
Its a steam machine, I partner with Walmart and Gamestop to sell it at $399 box OR $0 down 2 year contract $25/month, you get some free game licenses for paying monthly. For $40/month you get premium games too and more cloud storage, free upgrade every year, etc. For $50/mo you get a free handheld device too. Partner with some chinese company to mass produce the machines, build a handheld console that plays the same games digitally off SD cards.
All Nintendo games henceforth are sold in Steam, Nintendo has a seperate standalone curated steam store though (optional) where only Nintendo Seal of Approval games are sold and steam only gets 15% of the license from that, but Valve still runs all the storefronts, friends lists, multiplayer servers, etc. Port over our library to be backwards compatible, and promise in the future all new machines will play your entire digital library flawlessly.
Bam - for families just get a Nintendo NES and play the most popular, family friendly PC games. For power users, play our games that you buy straight off steam. As Nintendo, I don't have to deal anymore with OSes, friends lists, cloud saves, multiplayer, hackers, etc. Everything is VAC secured for multiplayer and Denuvo to stop piracy.
All Nintendo games henceforth are sold in Steam, Nintendo has a seperate standalone curated steam store though (optional) where only Nintendo Seal of Approval games are sold and steam only gets 15% of the license from that, but Valve still runs all the storefronts, friends lists, multiplayer servers, etc. Port over our library to be backwards compatible, and promise in the future all new machines will play your entire digital library flawlessly.
Bam - for families just get a Nintendo NES and play the most popular, family friendly PC games. For power users, play our games that you buy straight off steam. As Nintendo, I don't have to deal anymore with OSes, friends lists, cloud saves, multiplayer, hackers, etc. Everything is VAC secured for multiplayer and Denuvo to stop piracy.
spazchicken
Member
That's not a bet I'd make. As long as it's as powerful as the XB1 is enough for that, anything more is risky.
Ah that good ole Sega fantasy strategy. How is that working out for them?
Freeman
Banned
Better than when they were trying to push Dreamcasts and Saturns to people.
No gimmicks. Utilize AMD's Polaris technology for 6 TFLOP performance at relatively reasonable prices (e.g. $400).
Make sure there is a suite of quality games at launch, and a strong road map so that droughts do not happen.
Market with a focus on both family friendly games like Mario, but also highlight any more "hardcore" games like Bayonetta and Metroid.
Court indies and let the third-parties come where they may.
Make sure there is a suite of quality games at launch, and a strong road map so that droughts do not happen.
Market with a focus on both family friendly games like Mario, but also highlight any more "hardcore" games like Bayonetta and Metroid.
Court indies and let the third-parties come where they may.
Non-customized architecture to lure developers.
Modern display elements (IPS, non-vegetable resolution).
Compliment wacky controller with minimalist, standard counterpart (like Wii U Pro).
Day 1 SNES, NES, GC and WII U BC catalogue with free Ambassador/Loyalty bundle for registered users.
Day 1 Zelda bundle SKU
Modern display elements (IPS, non-vegetable resolution).
Compliment wacky controller with minimalist, standard counterpart (like Wii U Pro).
Day 1 SNES, NES, GC and WII U BC catalogue with free Ambassador/Loyalty bundle for registered users.
Day 1 Zelda bundle SKU
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I'll say what I've been saying for nearly 2 years.
Dual screen hybrid console calked the Super Nintendo DS.
Similar power output to the WiiU and it comes with an HDMI wireless signal sender that allows TV play that uses the WiiU streaming tech. Developers can then choose to make strictly portable games, or strictly TV screen only games, or a combination.
Games would come on SD (or a proprietary SD) and all WiiU digital titles would be BC.
WiiU Pro controller would be compatible but the console itself could also be used as a controller.
Dual screen hybrid console calked the Super Nintendo DS.
Similar power output to the WiiU and it comes with an HDMI wireless signal sender that allows TV play that uses the WiiU streaming tech. Developers can then choose to make strictly portable games, or strictly TV screen only games, or a combination.
Games would come on SD (or a proprietary SD) and all WiiU digital titles would be BC.
WiiU Pro controller would be compatible but the console itself could also be used as a controller.
Dreamcast was a great system. When SEGA left hardware we lost a very unique player in the game. They don't put out nearly as many games as they used to, and the games they do put out are of suspect quality.
I don't want that future for Nintendo.
Imagine a Mario game equivalent to Sonic 2006?
Doctoglethorpe
Member
Its an app on ps4. Just put it out and let word of mouth do the rest.
Tye The Czar
Member
I'll just go wild and awesomely unrealistic:
- Make it a Steam Machine.
- Allow for full BC all the way back to GameCube.
- Aggressively bring the GC, Wii and Wii U library to VC, allowing for cross-buy and cross-play for all of them.
- Since a rumor going around claims that smartphones and tablets will be the controllers, we'll embrace it. Manufacture multiple, adjustable types of touchscreen adapters for makeshift WIi U-esque gamepads.
- Splatoon 2
- Smash IV(a.k.a. Melee 2.0) - recruit the Project M team to work alongside Sora.
- Kid Icarus Uprising 2
- Sin & Punishment 3
- Zelda: Breath of the Wild as a pack-in copy.
dollartaco
Member
I call it the New Nintendo Wii U and package it exactly like the Wii and every piece is sold separately so people with Old Nintendo Wii Us don't have to pay for the power supply and AV cables.
Freeman
Banned
There is no future where they keep releasing WiiU like consoles that fail. At one point you see yourself in a similar position to where Sega was and another failed attempt is not an option.
The quality of their software is not tied to their console(if anything when they bet on the wrong gimmick it hurt their games).
dcx4610
Member
Basically a more powerful PS4 with a slightly more upgraded Pro Controller. A completely modern feeling OS with full multimedia function. $399.
You'd get the best of what the PS4 has to offer and 1st party Nintendo games. Hasn't that what we've always wanted after all? Why Nintendo can't understand that, I'll never know.
You'd get the best of what the PS4 has to offer and 1st party Nintendo games. Hasn't that what we've always wanted after all? Why Nintendo can't understand that, I'll never know.
The Maverick
Member
Best console hardware that 249 can afford. No gimmick, fully featured account system, Playstation Now like service for retro games, drop with a showcase game using Mario, an action thriller Metroid, and Splatoon 2 as my launch window titles. Remaster Smash 4 with all DLC. Pokémon MMO in development.
Handheld would drop for 179, Vita like design, an online multiplayer game using amiibo, Pokémon in full 3D and mod tools, and open the eshop for everyone with a pulse.
If all this can't revitalize the company, then it's third party time.
Handheld would drop for 179, Vita like design, an online multiplayer game using amiibo, Pokémon in full 3D and mod tools, and open the eshop for everyone with a pulse.
If all this can't revitalize the company, then it's third party time.
eyeball_kid
Member
- Console hardware should be able to run PS4-level graphics at 1080p @ 60fps. Mandate all games must meet this minimum spec.
- Blu-Ray slot for games + digital titles through online store. Friendly terms for indie devs.
- Simple, kid-friendly voice assistant to do common tasks. Maybe uses Mario for voice. "Hey Mario, show me what Paul is playing right now" "Oohhhh-kay-ah!"
- Comes with standard controller, but the console will integrate with iOS / Android phones to provide an app that allows touch controls and second-screen experience, as well as providing a central Nintendo social hub.
The NX will launch with Zelda NX, Mario Maker NX, and F-Zero NX.
$349.
- Blu-Ray slot for games + digital titles through online store. Friendly terms for indie devs.
- Simple, kid-friendly voice assistant to do common tasks. Maybe uses Mario for voice. "Hey Mario, show me what Paul is playing right now" "Oohhhh-kay-ah!"
- Comes with standard controller, but the console will integrate with iOS / Android phones to provide an app that allows touch controls and second-screen experience, as well as providing a central Nintendo social hub.
The NX will launch with Zelda NX, Mario Maker NX, and F-Zero NX.
$349.
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