Brexit |OT| UK Referendum on EU Membership - 23 June 2016

Did you vote for the side that is going to win?


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It seems the outspoken sometimes irrational leave people are the ones who like to shout it loudest .

Scares me sometimes.
 
More than likely she was trying to influence voters which is illegal in a polling station. So police were right to be involved in that case.

This sounds more likely. Political talk inside is unacceptable

If she wants to stand outside and lend pens to people as part of some crazy conspiracy theory then more power to her though, I guess.
 
Lol. At the same time, I don't really see why the police needed to get involved.

Some councils are advising against pens because they can smear and spoil ballot votes..... Possibly that? Oops, I meant pencil-hating Space Lizards are melting steel EU beams.
 
More than likely she was trying to influence voters which is illegal in a polling station. So police were right to be involved in that case.

TAKE THIS PEN, THERE ARE MEN IN BLACK IN THE CUPBOARDS CHANGING PENCIL VOTES. THEY ARE REMAIN BADDIES. PLS VOTE LEAVE WITH THIS PEN. I'M NOT CRAZY.
 
Huh? Do you need to bring your own pencil or something and people forget? And why call the police? And why does this woman define herself by her EU and Islam opinion on Twitter? Everything is weird today.

If you write your leave vote in pencil MI5 are going to rub it out before they count the votes, duh
 
does anyone else remember this dude

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also, I used to like the ice version of tizer

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tizer's been ruined now, the taste is bollocks now and look at this shit:

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wheres the edginess and cool
Wow, that 90s xtreme design philosophy!

Last time I had Tizer it looked like this..
Which I guess the new version is an update of.
 
I admit it is but the reality is leave and remain present the same problems and the truth is nobody knows what the outcome of either will be.

One could take a calculated guess and assume that migration is only going to increase to unsustainable levels, this is what happens when you have free movement and unfortunatly whilst we are a part of the EU this is never going to change, that alone should worry people, we aren't a massive country and our public services thanks to this disgusting government are already at full stretch.

Also you have to say, the EU gets more from us than we get from them, no chance it will affect our trading leaving, they need our trade, for all the dire predictions on how our economy will fail none of it is actually rooted in any form of reality.

It is very much rooted in reality. Neither side disputes economy will falter after brexit.
 
Huh? Do you need to bring your own pencil or something and people forget? And why call the police? And why does this woman define herself by her EU and Islam opinion on Twitter? Everything is weird today.

A lot of people (mostly Leave people, it seems) are convinced that if you vote in pencil (which is what is provided) the government will rub out the pencil and re-cast your vote to fix it. Which, obviously, is nigh-on impossible given the turnaround on British counts.
 
Makes sense. That solidarity (or lack thereof) seems irrational but I guess I can't deny that it exists.

And I have more in common with my neighbour than with someone living on a farm. In fact the South of England probably has more in common with parts of Northern Europe than with the North of England.

It's not a straw man. I think that splitting up the country would be no less ridiculous than splitting up the EU.

I had the exact same conversation today, actually. It coaxed out some very inconsistent logic from someone who wanted to vote leave.
 
Are Leave people just more outspoken than Remain people? Down my street alone there is like 10 Leave posters in windows and no Remain ones. I've only seen a couple of Remain ones in my whole village...

I've mentioned before, but it's interesting to see the evolution in viewpoint as I travel to work. I live in Oxford, and I've not seen a single Leave poster in any windows, but quite a few Remain ones. As I travel to work - which is in the countryside, about halfway to Reading - I see an awful lot of large Leave placards in the fields. Fair's fair, though, recently spotted one big Remain placard in the field, too.

And then I get to work, where there's no actual canvassing (understandably!), but we're a company with an awful lot of skilled immigrant employees on a business site that also heavily favours an international workforce, so all the talk is back to Remain.
 
I had the exact same conversation today, actually. It coaxed out some very inconsistent logic from someone who wanted to vote leave.
I've resisted the urge to use this argument at work - I think there are people here that would sincerely agree with it...
 
Huh? Do you need to bring your own pencil or something and people forget? And why call the police? And why does this woman define herself by her EU and Islam opinion on Twitter? Everything is weird today.

Pencils are provided at the polling stations, you don't need to bring anything.

Leave voters are just nutters who don't understand how voting works and think that Erdogan is hiding on the other side of the door with an eraser so he can change all the ballots.
 
They really need to explain voting better - or the reason for pencils - next time there's an election. I saw far too many "don't use pencils!"/"Why are they using pencils?" things circulating on FB during the Scottish indyref, and this is just a repeat performance.

High turnouts, misinformation and lots of voters who don't normally vote makes for a toxic stew and paranoia over pencils is just one outcome.
 
Hm.

I have two sets of grandparents (as is normal). Both are kinda well off but to significantly varying degrees. The wealthier pair are voting remain, and the other half are voting out.

I did go see the grandparents who are voting remain the other day, and they basically floored me with their arguments. Had no way to argue that anything other than remain would be a good outcome. Went to the others today and they, as lovely as they are, their main viewpoint came down to immigration.

So, it's curious to think about. You've got the basic standard middle and upper class pensioners who are likely voting out because of dem coloured folk and muslims, but the other side, the multi-millionaires with business ties and decades of tangible experience with europe are voting in

I voted in earlier btw

I do wonder to what extent being able to actually afford direct interactions with Europe (rather than benefiting or suffering through a web of interconnected policies) affects the position of some voters.

Like, I can't really deny that A) My family is comfortably middle class and B) Much of my positive view of Europe and its potential comes from the holidays I've had on the continent growing up. My mother is trilingual, so there was no issue of a language barrier in having holidays in France, Belgium, and the Netherlands, while Denmark - which we went to last year - proved to support english speakers well enough. I've had many experiences with the continent, and many fond memories, so of course that has to play a part in my vote today.

Yet I imagine for a lot of people, that sort of thing is a much larger ask of their finances, which renders the rest of Europe as distant, yet somehow affecting their lives on British soil.

They really need to explain voting better - or the reason for pencils - next time there's an election. I saw far too many "don't use pencils!"/"Why are they using pencils?" things circulating on FB during the Scottish indyref, and this is just a repeat performance.

High turnouts, misinformation and lots of voters who don't normally vote makes for a toxic stew and paranoia over pencils is just one outcome.

Also on the pencil point I would have figured it was just you can buy the pencils once thirty years ago, and they'll still work despite no use in between elections.
 
does anyone else remember this dude

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also, I used to like the ice version of tizer

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yo i've been living on the other side of the planet for nearly eight years now but this post made me feel a little bit proud to be british after the referendum campaign sucked out basically every drop of patriotism i ever might have felt. so ta
 
A lot of people (mostly Leave people, it seems) are convinced that if you vote in pencil (which is what is provided) the government will rub out the pencil and re-cast your vote to fix it. Which, obviously, is nigh-on impossible given the turnaround on British counts.

On the other hand, you can employ someone to do it and he'll have a job for months.
A small step towards lowering unemployment figures, but every job counts.
 
Poignant little moment in the shop at lunchtime.

I was making up a necklace for a very elderly lady - probably mid-90s - and got chatting, the way you do. We talked about her time in Montana, and the time she got stuck in LA with no flight ticket and no money, when she turned to the conversation towards the referendum. So we talked around that, and her attitudes and intention to vote Leave didn't seem to match the rest of her character, and I gently prodded around the issues. She was close to tears when she told me that her political views were entirely formed by her late husband - now dead 50 years. We talked a bit more, and she left with a (by now heavily-discounted) necklace and a determination to vote Remain when she got back to Swindon.

Personal loyalty lays long shadows.

She gave me a big hug as she left.
 
I never thought about that, but it may be possible to create a fraud by lending your pen to people. There are special inks that disappear after a few minutes, turning a valid ballot into a blank one.
Pencil might actually be "safer" than ink.
 
forget Australian points-based immigration system, you need Australian-style sausage sizzle at your polling stations.

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Basically a BBQ set up at the entrance to the polling station and people cook a sausage with onions and give it to you on a slice of bread. They're basically used to raise funds for charities or local schools. They used to be outside giant hardware stores on a saturday morning (food trucks/stalls aren't as common there) but a few years ago they started appearing at schools and other voting stations on election days (it is compulsory to vote in Australia) so that's what a lot of people enjoy most about elections there. There's even a website to tell you which polling stations have sausage sizzles

http://www.electionsausagesizzle.com.au/

I voted by post but ate a sausage for breakfast anyway.
 
I never thought about that, but it may be possible to create a fraud by lending your pen to people. There are special inks that disappear after a few minutes, turning a valid ballot into a blank one.
Pencil might actually be "safer" than ink.

We have a counter-theory! To social media! Poison the air!

:D
 
Having a load of people on hand with rubbers changing ballot papers is such a shit conspiracy theory. Like if you're gonna lean into this thing would you not say it's already rigged or there are extra papers or something.

Actually I'm not going to try to reason this out, that way lies madness.
 
Poignant little moment in the shop at lunchtime.

I was making up a necklace for a very elderly lady - probably mid-90s - and got chatting, the way you do. We talked about her time in Montana, and the time she got stuck in LA with no flight ticket and no money, when she turned to the conversation towards the referendum. So we talked around that, and her attitudes and intention to vote Leave didn't seem to match the rest of her character, and I gently prodded around the issues. She was close to tears when she told me that her political views were entirely formed by her late husband - now dead 50 years. We talked a bit more, and she left with a (by now heavily-discounted) necklace and a determination to vite Remain when she got back to Swindon.

Personal loyalty lays long shadows.

She gave me a big hug as she left.

Well done on making an old lady cry, you bastard.
 
I agree somewhat. To be fair the retired generation are supposed to take up a bigger amount of the NHS.

The aging population is still a concern. Especially when more than half the elderly live alone - which is sad but also a generational innificient resource problem.
Edit: in that more and more people are living alone now than in the nineteen fifties.

Of course, they have a greater need so they're going to use it more. My point is that with an ever aging population there's going to be ever increasing demand, so I don't think it's smart to become so insular and hostile towards migrants. It's ironic that the demographic that would stand to benefit so much from young working migrants are the group most in favour or leaving.
 
I never thought about that, but it may be possible to create a fraud by lending your pen to people. There are special inks that disappear after a few minutes, turning a valid ballot into a blank one.
Pencil might actually be "safer" than ink.

If anyone ever develops an ink that manages to crawl upwards about an inch before it settles, we have a problem.
 
Poignant little moment in the shop at lunchtime.

I was making up a necklace for a very elderly lady - probably mid-90s - and got chatting, the way you do. We talked about her time in Montana, and the time she got stuck in LA with no flight ticket and no money, when she turned to the conversation towards the referendum. So we talked around that, and her attitudes and intention to vote Leave didn't seem to match the rest of her character, and I gently prodded around the issues. She was close to tears when she told me that her political views were entirely formed by her late husband - now dead 50 years. We talked a bit more, and she left with a (by now heavily-discounted) necklace and a determination to vite Remain when she got back to Swindon.

Personal loyalty lays long shadows.

She gave me a big hug as she left.

Yeah it's the same thing all over, my family were all Labour voters, felt kinda obliged to be the same until I turned 18, then I decided before I voted to study the parties and what I believed in, so stayed Labour. Hopefully she realises it's her vote, not her husbands, I'm sure he would prefer her to make her own choices.
 
Having a load of people on hand with rubbers changing ballot papers is such a shit conspiracy theory. Like if you're gonna lean into this thing would you not say it's already rigged or there are extra papers or something.

Actually I'm not going to try to reason this out, that way lies madness.

That's exactly the sort of thing a rubber-toting MI5 agent would say. I'm on to you
 
forget Australian points-based immigration system, you need Australian-style sausage sizzle at your polling stations.

364343-12dd369a-00b9-11e3-9cff-2014e57d9885.jpg


Basically a BBQ set up at the entrance to the polling station and people cook a sausage with onions and give it to you on a slice of bread. They're basically used to raise funds for charities or local schools. They used to be outside giant hardware stores on a saturday morning (food trucks/stalls aren't as common there) but a few years ago they started appearing at schools and other voting stations on election days (it is compulsory to vote in Australia) so that's what a lot of people enjoy most about elections there. There's even a website to tell you which polling stations have sausage sizzles

http://www.electionsausagesizzle.com.au/

I voted by post but ate a sausage for breakfast anyway.
Good Lord my stomach just growled. So hungry.
 
Poignant little moment in the shop at lunchtime.

I was making up a necklace for a very elderly lady - probably mid-90s - and got chatting, the way you do. We talked about her time in Montana, and the time she got stuck in LA with no flight ticket and no money, when she turned to the conversation towards the referendum. So we talked around that, and her attitudes and intention to vote Leave didn't seem to match the rest of her character, and I gently prodded around the issues. She was close to tears when she told me that her political views were entirely formed by her late husband - now dead 50 years. We talked a bit more, and she left with a (by now heavily-discounted) necklace and a determination to vite Remain when she got back to Swindon.

Personal loyalty lays long shadows.

She gave me a big hug as she left.

She just wanted the discount, she then laughed her way to the polling station to vote Leave. /s
 
Poignant little moment in the shop at lunchtime.

I was making up a necklace for a very elderly lady - probably mid-90s - and got chatting, the way you do. We talked about her time in Montana, and the time she got stuck in LA with no flight ticket and no money, when she turned to the conversation towards the referendum. So we talked around that, and her attitudes and intention to vote Leave didn't seem to match the rest of her character, and I gently prodded around the issues. She was close to tears when she told me that her political views were entirely formed by her late husband - now dead 50 years. We talked a bit more, and she left with a (by now heavily-discounted) necklace and a determination to vite Remain when she got back to Swindon.

Personal loyalty lays long shadows.

She gave me a big hug as she left.

You're a good person.
 
I hope its a little close, for that dramatic affect, last GE was called straight away and the night was boring, I want tension damnit!
 
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